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YOU Don't Exist

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#1 ·
There is nothing you can do to get rid of your anxiety because YOU don't exist. What you think of as "you" is just a thought. For example, while reading this, are you aware of yourself reading or is there just reading happening? "you' only seem to exist when you think about yourself. You can find this out wherever you are, right now there are feelings and possibly thoughts going on in your body. Can you control those thoughts and feelings? Probably not because there is no thinker of thoughts and "feeler" of feelings, there is just the thoughts and feelings.

So if YOU don't exist then, what can you do about your anxiety? Nothing. The way to get rid of your anxiety is not by confronting it and coming face to face with but rather, becoming it. If you feel anxious or frustrated or whatever, just let it happen. You still go on breathing don't you?

Try answering this question: Who are you?
Don't tell me your name because that's what somebody else told you you were.
Don't tell me you are a christian because that it is just a label, it can't be who you are.
But still, really consider this question, who are YOU? You might find that it is a question that is hard to answer.

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#2 ·
YOU are a memory bank full of experiences and imaginative ideas in conjunction with various biological systems that relay to your mind in the form of emotions and analysis. YOU have received a combination of stimuli that is exclusive to YOU. YOU do exist. Cut the pseudo-intellectual philosophical bull****.

YOU are a RESULT of a math problem that ONLY exists in YOU. Different variables than anyone else. Some variables solved by your own decision. YOU exist.
 
#4 ·
YOU are a memory bank full of experiences and imaginative ideas in conjunction with various biological systems that relay to your mind in the form of emotions and analysis.

YOU have received a combination of stimuli that is exclusive to YOU. YOU do exist. Cut the pseudo-intellectual philosophical bull****.YOU are a RESULT of a math problem that ONLY exists in YOU.
Imaginative ideas are not real, hence why they are called imaginative. So if i am that then i am also not real.

You really believe that you are a result of a math problem? Who came up with that problem?
Okay then. Who are you, really?
 
#11 ·
Try answering this question: Who are you?
Don't tell me your name because that's what somebody else told you you were.
Don't tell me you are a christian because that it is just a label, it can't be who you are.
But still, really consider this question, who are YOU? You might find that it is a question that is hard to answer.
RandomGentleman. I picked the username out myself and everything.
 
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#27 ·
I think there is a me, maybe its only an incarnation or a me 3.7568900 or whatever. The anxiety isnt me nut that doesn't mean there's no "me." Anyway, ive technically heard that the human can only hold so much soul.. so we're like fragments of a bigger soul or whatever. Im in a dream really because there's a lot of malware covering my eyes.
 
#28 ·
I kind of wish I didn't exist, then I wouldn't have to be dealing with these frustrating physical health issues. :(

In other words...it's a pretty and deep thought to claim we don't exist or that "our thoughts aren't real," but it's not particularly helpful. Especially when we have issues other than just anxiety. Philosophy doesn't cure disorders.

"If you feel anxious or frustrated or whatever, just let it happen. You still go on breathing don't you?"

I would, yes. But I'd also still be suffering, mentally and physically. That's real enough, to me.

And I wouldn't aim this question at somebody with a terminal disorder or suicidal plans, because if they "just let it happen," then no, they won't still go on breathing. :/
 
#35 ·
If I don't exist, who is feeding my cats? Who is making my art? Who is sleeping in my bed?

I find that facing my fears has helped a lot for me. But to each their own. People are different, and different things work for them. There isn't any set solution for anxiety.
 
#37 ·
Who is this "you" that you keep referring to then? If there are no conscious beings to receive and truly comprehend and benefit from what you are saying, then what is the point of your post?

In my opinion, the very fact that we struggle with and suffer from these emotions is evidence enough that we exist as conscious independent beings. If we weren't, then we would do as you suggested by default.

You're saying that if we become selfless, we will cease to suffer. That sounds like certain eastern philosophies, Buddhism I believe.
Perhaps that is a state that one can achieve, through something like meditation. But the very fact that we are not in a state of selflessness without a great deal of effort convinces me that there is a completely real conscience that has to be suppressed, by that very conscious being, as a consciously made and willful act.
So speak for yourself; I exist.
 
#49 ·
This and the belief that we are dreaming life reminds me of the Toltec prophecies but I really don't want to become schizophrenic! Maybe I can become schizophrenic in a safe way, as long as I don't hurt anybody and don't forget that life is a different kind of dream-like state but still more real than the dreams we have when we sleep.
 
#51 ·
It is essential to understand this point thoroughly: that the thing-in-itself (Kant’s ding an sich), whether animal, vegetable, or mineral, is not only unknowable —it does not exist. This is important not only for sanity and peace of mind, but also for the most “practical” reasons of economics, politics, and technology. Our practical projects have run into confusion again and again through failure to see that individual people, nations, animals, insects, and plants do not exist in or by themselves.

This is not to say only that things exist in relation to one another, but that what we call “things” are no more than glimpses of a unified process. Certainly, this process has distinct features which catch our attention, but we must remember that distinction is not separation. Sharp and clear as the crest of the wave may be, it necessarily “goes with” the smooth and less featured curve of the trough. So also the bright points of the stars “gowith” (if I may now coin a word) the dark background of space. In the Gestalt theory of perception this is known as the figure/ ground relationship. This theory asserts, in brief, that no figure is ever perceived except in relation to a background. If, for example, you come so close to me that the outline of my body lies beyond your field of vision, the “thing” you will see will no longer be my body. Your attention will instead be “captured” by a coat-button or a necktie, for the theory also asserts that, against any given background, our attention is almost automatically “won” by any moving shape (in contrast with the stationary background) or by any enclosed or tightly complex feature (in contrast with the simpler, featureless background).

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#54 ·
Yes, yes, I do get what he is trying to say. Basically what he is trying to say is that my thoughts are NOT me.

My thoughts are what I know, but not me. He is saying that the IDEA(What I know about myself) that I hold of myself doesnt exist, because I can exist without this thought, this idea, but it cannot exist without me, thus we are not the same, so the "YOU" that you think you are does not exist. Obviously, I existed before the thoughts I had of myself. When I was baby I didnt have thoughts OF WHO I WAS made up of my language, but I still existed.

I still dont get your point. Where are you trying to get with this? Also, just waiting for confirmation until I can argue further
 
#56 ·
Yes, yes, I do get what he is trying to say. Basically what he is trying to say is that my thoughts are NOT me.

My thoughts are what I know, but not me. He is saying that the IDEA(What I know about myself) that I hold of myself doesnt exist, because I can exist without this thought, this idea, but it cannot exist without me, thus we are not the same, so the "YOU" that you think you are does not exist. Obviously, I existed before the thoughts I had of myself. When I was baby I didnt have thoughts made up of my language, but I still existed.
Yeah, that's exactly it!

I still dont get your point. Where are you trying to get with this?
My point is, there is no need to worry or stress about anything because there is no YOU to stress or worry. And don't try to get rid of your anxiety because you'd be just getting in your own way.

I'm not trying to get anywhere with this. I'm just sharing what i know.