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I've had therapists do this weird **** like saying soothing crap to me and telling me to relax in the dark, or asked where in my body specifically i felt tense- which all seemed very hoaky and unscientific. is this what cbt is supposed to be?
 

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CBT is different ideas of handling your thoughts.

If you mess something up, instead of saying things like, 'oh I'm worthless of course I would fail.' They try to help you by putting ideas like, 'well I messed that up, but next time it won't be as bad.'

They will try to help your regular thought process.

It's easy to think negetive, it's hard to think positive. << That was the quote that kindof sunk into me *shrugs*

Good luck though : )
 

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sit around listen to someone telling u to redirect/control your thoughts except u can't actually do that.
 

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CBT is all about dismantling your negative thoughts in a logical, dispassionate way, while conveniently ignoring the fact that positive thoughts are just as illogical and easy to deconstruct. It's only interested in dealing with the symptoms of mental distress rather than the causes, so if you don't want to talk about your childhood traumas it should suit you fine.
 

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When you do cbt, you are expected to learn the connection between thoughts, emotions and behaviours.

Then you are expected to keep a diary of negative thoughts that you experience before and after social encounters that activate your anxiety or bad moods.

You will then try to challenge those thoughts with more balanced and realistic ones until you finally feel a shift in the way you feel about the situation. If, for example, you thought people were all staring at you, you might realize you didn't even look to see if they were. This would obviously be a thought not in line with reality and you would go about corrcting it by writing down something like "how can I know people were actually looking at me?... I didn't actually look".

Positive thoughts must be based in reality. The self help books will show you how to do this and will give examples to give you an idea of what to put on paper.

After getting a collection of many thoughts, you go through the thoughts and see which ones keep comign up more and more, as they represent your underlying roots of your anxiety. Then you must go about changing them first through cognitive work and then behavioural testing to see if you thoughts are infact based in reality.

CBT works quite well at managing anxiety but only if you are really willing to put the effort in and are willing to take some risks and force yourself in situations to find evidence against your negative beliefs and assumptions. If your anxiety stems from character traits such as shame, dependency or approval seeking, expect a comeback of sa after a while when you stop doing cbt.

I think the therapy is over rated for social anxiety and can seem too mechanical and kind of robs the whole human experience from emotion. Real cure for sa come from meeting one's emotional needs.
 

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I've had therapists do this weird **** like saying soothing crap to me and telling me to relax in the dark, or asked where in my body specifically i felt tense- which all seemed very hoaky and unscientific. is this what cbt is supposed to be?
That certainly doesn't seem to be what either of my CBT therapists did, they usually try to get you to take small steps, trying to get to the root of your anxiety, then trying to give you advice in ways to calm yourself, telling you things that you need to watch out for, and usually telling you that you have to start of small like going to the shop with friends, and then going to the shop without friends, then build up to your goal, whatever that may be, it'll usually make you uncomfortable to be doing these things, but if you keep doing them they'll hopefully get more easy to do, then you can move onto the next big thing.
 

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Am i missing something? How is CBT supposed to change one's negative thoughts?
when people talk about social anxiety and mention cbt as a therapy, they are normally refering to cognitive-behavioural therapy.... funny guy.
 

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when i did cbt , i actually wasnt has bad as the other 11 people ,Some of them that numb the couldent speak, an constantly ran to the toilet. some thinks were told like going to the supermarket , go in for as long as you can without s***ing yourself , an keep doing it longer every time till you feel know anxierty. Not one patient bar me managed it while on the course. I was there just to try any theropy that may help.But what they were teaching was not my anxierty, i can go in shops an bars an leave the house. But i stayed an to see how the other.s faired . By the way i was the only male in the group , men dont seem to want to go on the cbt course. Anyway 2 week were canceled with theropist ill so did 6 weeks an learned sweet FA. The others complained it wasnt long enough,an after 6 week i hour sessions ,your out the door an on your own.
 

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Okay, so I read everyone's posts here, and I still don't understand what CBT is. How is this different than regular therapy?

Also, an explanation of what happens in CBT therapy shouldn't start with "Well, CBT is all about..." I don't want a general overview of the philosophy of CBT, I want to know exactly what happens when you show up for your therapy sessions. I've asked a number of people about this, and for some reason no one can seem to get past just a vague synopsis of the concept of CBT.

So please, you walk in the door at your therapy session, and then....?
 

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In my experience, cbt dealt with addressing damaging core beliefs, finding out what my safety/avoidance behaviours where and consciously avoiding them.

It took a long time to get to any worthwhile point, but at the end of it I could comfortably eat in public places, voice my professional opinions and I felt a lot better about myself.

Maybe I bought into it and maybe it isn't all it claims to be, but in my opinion the impact of positive thinking is a profound thing that you can't really put any static scientific value to.

Work hard, cut yourself a ton of slack and try and stay posivtive.

And don't dicount it before you try it. "it is impossible to teach a man what he thinks he already knows"
 

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Okay, so I read everyone's posts here, and I still don't understand what CBT is. How is this different than regular therapy?

Also, an explanation of what happens in CBT therapy shouldn't start with "Well, CBT is all about..." I don't want a general overview of the philosophy of CBT, I want to know exactly what happens when you show up for your therapy sessions. I've asked a number of people about this, and for some reason no one can seem to get past just a vague synopsis of the concept of CBT.

So please, you walk in the door at your therapy session, and then....?
They ask everyone there problem , intruce yourself to the group, discuss thinks like why you carnt do things like go to the supermarket, then they say just try going through the door first, next time into the shop an out , next time walk round the shop ect ect ect. like tricking your mind into into doing things you dont like. You take home homework on your progress an discuss that at the next session. Not one in my group ever bought back homework. Thats how bad it was. If you do it on a 1 to 1 basis an pay megga money for it you may get progress ,or just an empty wallet :um
 

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Am i missing something? How is CBT supposed to change one's negative thoughts?
By learning to react differently to what you see. Think around what is causing the panic - the situation is usually different than the way we see it.
 

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Okay, so I read everyone's posts here, and I still don't understand what CBT is. How is this different than regular therapy?

Also, an explanation of what happens in CBT therapy shouldn't start with "Well, CBT is all about..." I don't want a general overview of the philosophy of CBT, I want to know exactly what happens when you show up for your therapy sessions. I've asked a number of people about this, and for some reason no one can seem to get past just a vague synopsis of the concept of CBT.

So please, you walk in the door at your therapy session, and then....?
that's probably because most people are thinking of self help cbt, that you do by yourself and thought that was what the OP wanted to know; what it involves... not what to expect when they walk into a cbt therapy session. The OP mentioned things which didn't seem apart of cbt.

but if you go to a therapist, when you walk through the door and you'll take a seat and tell them your problem and they'll explain the concept of the therapy you have chosen to undertake (the part your not interested in knowing). Because cbt is more of a practical, mechanical-like, hands on therapy than regular therapy (I don't know what that is... care to explain what I should expect if I walk into a regular therapy session?), they have to explain it. You will tell them your thoughts about why you are afraid and they will point out other ways of seeing things differently. Then you are given homework to do, which is do things that you are too afraid to do. You then report back to the therapist your progress. This is what will happen when you walk through the door.

My advice, do self help first, if you get stuck go see a therapist to help you out more. That way you'll save a heck of a lot of money and will progress much faster when you do decide to see one.
 

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that's probably because most people are thinking of self help cbt, that you do by yourself and thought that was what the OP wanted to know; an overview of cbt and what it involves... not what to expect when they walk into a cbt therapy session.

but if you go to a therapist, when you walk through the door, they'll say "hi" or "hello" and you'll say "hi" or "hello". You'll take a seat. You'll tell them your problem and they'll explain the concept of the therapy you have chosen to undertake, because cbt is more of a practical, mechanical-like, hands on therapy. You will tell them your thoughts about why you are afraid and they will point out other ways of seeing things differently. Then you are given homework to do, which is do things that you are too afraid to do. You then report back to the therapist your progress.

My advice, do self help first, if you get stuck go see a therapist to help you out more. That way you'll save a heck of a lot of money and will progress much faster when you do decide to see one.
I'm already seeing a therapist, but she's not like a CBT specialist or whatever. I really am not on board with the idea of "learning to see things differently." I am aware that anxiety causes people to see things in a skewed and inaccurate way, but I don't really know how you can change these thoughts by "thinking differently." I think it's more important to just realize that they are inaccurate, and try to push through despite what your brain is telling you. However, I do like the idea of homework, because I feel like a lot of times therapy is just a lot of narcissistic whining about your problems, and I think that therapy that actually forces you to take action is much more useful in helping you change your life.
 
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