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I have used stimulants (dexamphetamine) for ADHD which is a tremendous help when it comes to motivation for getting things done. It also makes me more "open" to people but doesn't make me an extrovert, and doesn't give me significantly more propensity to socialise, although it does increase the desire to do so.

I have never used MAO inhibitors but am considering doing so. From what I understand it's the "amphetamine for social anxiety". Is this true?

Who here has used both and can give a comparison?
 

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Both probably. Dextroamphetamine would be much more powerful for spontaneous sociability.
That's what I currently use. Are you saying that's as good as it gets? There would be no advantage trying Nardil?

The main problem with dexamphetamine is that it only lasts a few hours, and isn't really a "long term" treatment.
 

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I have used stimulants (dexamphetamine) for ADHD which is a tremendous help when it comes to motivation for getting things done. It also makes me more "open" to people but doesn't make me an extrovert, and doesn't give me significantly more propensity to socialise, although it does increase the desire to do so.

I have never used MAO inhibitors but am considering doing so. From what I understand it's the "amphetamine for social anxiety". Is this true?

Who here has used both and can give a comparison?
Have you tried Paxil? Paxil has reduced my SA by about 90%. I also take medication for ADHD and it does not make me more sociable for some reason.
 

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That's what I currently use. Are you saying that's as good as it gets? There would be no advantage trying Nardil?

The main problem with dexamphetamine is that it only lasts a few hours, and isn't really a "long term" treatment.
Yes, you will find very few drugs with stronger effects on dopamine. The problem with amphetamines is that they don't do much to relieve anxiety. There would be a great deal of advantage to trying Nardil, but taking d-amp with it would probably be a bad idea.
 

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Yes, you will find very few drugs with stronger effects on dopamine. The problem with amphetamines is that they don't do much to relieve anxiety. There would be a great deal of advantage to trying Nardil, but taking d-amp with it would probably be a bad idea.
Have you tried both yourself? Would you say Nardil is like alcohol as far as disinhibition/motivation goes?

For me, dexamphetamine allows me to get things done, but it doesn't let me be spontaneous. I'm extremely hesitant and reserved. I constantly think in my head "better not", and this extreme inhibition seems to be the biggest factor.
 

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Have you tried both yourself? Would you say Nardil is like alcohol as far as disinhibition/motivation goes?
Even 90-105mg Nardil and 6mg Klonopin a day didn't make me particularly social, but I guess I was pretty happy. Nardil alone I only tried when coming off benzos, so it wouldn't be fair to comment.

I have tried PEA, which is the chemical that amphetamine, MDMA and all those are based on. Probably the single best "sociabiliser" and euphoriant I've tried, but it gave too much anxiety and fast heartbeat after a few doses. Nardil was nowhere near as potent as PEA for this.

For me, dexamphetamine allows me to get things done, but it doesn't let me be spontaneous. I'm extremely hesitant and reserved. I constantly think in my head "better not", and this extreme inhibition seems to be the biggest factor.
Okay then, Nardil would be worth a try. Just don't expect the crazy motivation of amphetamines.
 

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Have you tried both yourself? Would you say Nardil is like alcohol as far as disinhibition/motivation goes?

For me, dexamphetamine allows me to get things done, but it doesn't let me be spontaneous. I'm extremely hesitant and reserved. I constantly think in my head "better not", and this extreme inhibition seems to be the biggest factor.
First off, everyone reacts uniquely to each medication. That's rule number one. Hopefully you're fully accepting/aware of this. I've found it's best not to get your hopes up too much about any one med or alternately get frightened away from a med just because it sucked for someone else. I just like to tell people this who might be new to meds because it really is the golden rule that will save you a lot of stress and misguidance.

Anyway, I have never tried Nardil but the closest meds to alcohol in terms of disinhibition/motivation for me would be the benzos.

I feel a similar way about how you described dex's effects. I find that adderall allows me to be more spontaneous... to an extent... however I also find that the root issues of social anxiety, at least for me, are not at all addressed by adderall. It winds up making my anxiety a lot worse. Maybe this is just because my anxiety is really bad to begin with, I don't know.
 

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Anyway, I have never tried Nardil but the closest meds to alcohol in terms of disinhibition/motivation for me would be the benzos.
Nardil + benzos was the closest I ever got to alcohol's effects, probably because of Nardil increasing GABA then benzos synergising on GABA(A) and the other stuff.

I feel a similar way about how you described dex's effects. I find that adderall allows me to be more spontaneous... to an extent... however I also find that the root issues of social anxiety, at least for me, are not at all addressed by adderall. It winds up making my anxiety a lot worse. Maybe this is just because my anxiety is really bad to begin with, I don't know.
Looking at dex's pharmacology, it's probably that it does in fact address the dopamine side of SA's root very effectively, but simultaneously worsens anxiety with all the adrenaline release. Therefore you're right, it's not the best of things for anxiety, but can be very useful in a combination regimen.

As usual, I think magnesium would go very well with dex/Adderall. That's both for tolerance and reducing anxiety.
 

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prozac

You might wanna try Prozac. Although it pooped out on me, I had the personality changing effects, where I WANTED to go and talk to a stranger, wanted to talk, had thoughts easily accessible in my head. It's not about motivation or fearlessness, but more about disinhibition.
However, not everybody responds that way to Prozac, and I guess I was "lucky" that it did in that sense. I think it's about 10-20% that respond that way, but from what you're saying it looks like you'd want to give it a try.
I've never tried stimulants, but I would also say that it turned my brain from off to ON, in the sense that I felt more like myself. So I think this personality effect is what you're really looking for.
 
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