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I saw Dr. phil mentioned on this forum and wonder if any one seen him talk about SAD. I watch his show only accasionally. And did watch one show where a he got a very shy man to ask a girl for a date and the date turned out to be a big success. I know this doesnt work like that for those with SAD. If DR. Phil never brought up the topic of SAD then I beleive he has done a diservice to those afflicted with SAD. I thought of emailing his show but would like to find out first if any of you know if he ever educated the publuc about SAD.
 

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I watch him all the time but not everyday. As far as I know, they have never done a show on SA. I've seen drugs/alcohol/Anarexia/Buleimia/ but not one on either panic attacks or shyness.

Yes please do write to him and tell him that "some of his audience is not happy with that if he hasn't!"
 

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The few times that I have watched Dr. Phil he seemed to bring up the topic of alcohlism a lot. The shrink that I saw about 7 years ago (he specialized in anxiety disorders) told me that about 50 % of alcoholics have SA as their major underlying symptom. I,m feeling mad enough to put an email together. If any of you reading this topic can add some inputs as to what I ought to put in the letter please post it on this thread. I will post the draft on this thread b\4 sending it to dr. Phils organization and will be very open to sugestions any of you might have.
 

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Uhhh so what are you mad about? Maybe he is afraid that anyone with SA would sit on the stage and not talk, or that they wouldn't even show up! We do things like that don't we?

I'd love to see how he handles the advise to those who suffer with this.
Especially since you say that 50% of alcoholics are SA sufferers and he is a big advocate of AA. So after they give up the alcohol what does he tell them to do to deal with situations? Maybe they also teach that in AA, I've never gone so I don't know.
 

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A couple years ago, Dr. Phil did a show on fears and phobias, claiming that anyone can get over their fears very quickly using the appropriate methods. I felt he didn't really have a clue about social anxiety so I emailed him and stated such. I never heard back from him. Surprise, surprise.
 

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Can you imagine how it would be with someone who had SA on Dr. Phil??

Dr. Phil: What's wrong?
guest: I'm paranoid and I think everyone is talking about me.
Dr. Phil: Well they probably are. Get over it and move on.
 

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hismuse said:
Can you imagine how it would be with someone who had SA on Dr. Phil??

Dr. Phil: What's wrong?
guest: I'm paranoid and I think everyone is talking about me.
Dr. Phil: Well they probably are. Get over it and move on.
LOL - yeah as much as i love this man and think he offers great advise he does tend to have an elementary view of most things. Maybe things could be just that simple for some?
 

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Tried to respond last night but my computer went crazy. Hope to be able to complete this reply.
I heard that Oprah Wrinfery and Sally Rapheal both had a segment about SA. They had a psychologist on with a group of SA client he worked in group T. I am asumming the clients were far enough along to be able to speak to a tv adience. The fact they came on as a group helped I am sure.
I have been to many different 12 steps program including AA (though i was never an alcoholic), It was due to my desperate search to find something that would help. 12 steps didn't do a thing for me.
Dr. Phil probably gets thousands of email a week and bet he has a staff to read them and the staff keeps an eye out for ideas to use on his shows.
Dr. Phil is not the cure all therapist as he seem to present himself to be. Have read about some therapist criticism of him.
The reason I have some anger is because I spent over 30 years with numerous therapist about my SA symtoms and secondary problems. Not a one told me that other people had the same problems. Think that as a result I felt even more alone with my problems and had even more anxiety. Accidently found out about SA about 7 years ago and my mental outlook improved greatly and have acquired a lot better social skills since then.
Now that SA diagnosis been around and thearpy for it has a high success rate Dr. Phil with his massive tv audience can help educate a lot of people on the subject. I remember experiencing contempt from others who didn't understand why I couldn't overcome shyness. When Dr Phil did that one show where he got the shy man to ask for a date and turn out to be a huge success, that just pissed me off.
I managed a few dates myself when I was younger and most all were flops. I dated a couple women who were unattractive to me as I was trying to get social experience and maybe get more confidence.
That segment DR phil did was a bellitment of people with SA and a diservice.
I would be willing to go on a tv show but it would have to be with a group of other recoverying Social
phobes. I would do this because it could save a lot of uneccesary sufering from those suffering from SA.
I will work on the email with the thoughts that it will probably not be responded to. Will keep you posted.
 

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I looked at Dr. Phil's website last night and discovered there were discussion forums. Searched into mental health\fears and phobias and found some entries dated 2003 and 2002. The topics were about SA symtoms and responses from others who had similar problems. There were quite a few "agoraphobia" submissions. Agoraphobia means fear of leaving the house. It appears to be an extreme form of SA in many cases.
Went to 2 meetings tonight and got to get some shut eyes. Will post later with some more thoughts.
Thanks you guys for your responses.
 

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Here is the note I emailed the show:

Hello,
I am one of many individuals who have social anxiety disorder. We all suffer in silence because of the nature of our disease, and many of us go most of our lives without knowing there are treatment options such as medication and therapy.
Social anxiety in many cases causes stagnation in growth and social development, with little support from individuals outside of the disorder. Educating the public on the physical symptoms of the problem as well as individuals who are unknown SAD sufferers is critical.
I have had social anxiety all of my life. I only realized my problem after doing a case study on a patient in school, and much self-study on the topic. Looking back, the disorder caused me to miss an overwhelming amount of days in elementary, middle and high school... avoid peers, after school events and other social activities. As an adult I found myself avoiding typical daily situations such as going to the grocery store, church and family gatherings. It has nearly severed my relationship with my new in-laws, as they are very social creatures.
Social anxiety is so difficult because it conflicts with normal human emotions. There is a need and longing to be with and around other individuals and be social, however, the physical strain make it often very overwhelming. Tense muscles in the face and jaw, mental restlessness, worry, sweating and blushing accompanies this extreme anxiety while in public. Being confined to loneliness seems to be the only option to avoid the symptoms many times.
All too often I hear the response "get over it" or "you shouldn’t care what people think". It’s just not that easy.. it is uncontrollable, and many people don’t understand nor are sympathetic. Other SAD sufferers and myself know our thoughts and symptoms are irrational, but regardless we cannot change the chemical functioning of our brain.
Please educate the public, we are a mass audience that is often overlooked.. and as a result, we continue to suffer in the silence of our disease with little support and understanding from non-sufferers.
 

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Sent email to the site Thunder submitted. Will type out what I wrote since couldn't save it.
Definitlymaybe, I remember how I use to find ways to avoid my in-laws during the holidays. In my employment was always underemployed or woked for abusive people and spent a lot of time looking for another job to get away from abusive bosses.
My social life now is much better than it use to be, which I am thankful.
 

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OK, it's a good idea for people to email DR. Phil, but here's a question, which one of "Us" would be able to go on the show, and explain, in audible English (I would stutter stammer) what the problem was, I mean, picture it "They won't come out from the control room";-)
 

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hema said:
OK, it's a good idea for people to email DR. Phil, but here's a question, which one of "Us" would be able to go on the show, and explain, in audible English (I would stutter stammer) what the problem was, I mean, picture it "They won't come out from the control room";-)
LOL - thats what i picture as well. Maybe Dr. Phil has also and thats why he hasn't had SA peeps on his show. Well if you need a volunteer I'm up for it these days. I'll only start panicking if he talks about me and dating.
I admire Dr Phil and it would be great to meet him in person, although he'd likely tell me to just get over it! :poke
 

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I beleive Dr. Phil's staff would have his guests prepared ahead of time. And if there were a person too panicky the person would not be allowed to come on. He might have all the SA people video taped ahead of time to give testimonies on how SA affected there lives, and give accounts on unconstructive therapy experienced with "professional untrained in SA" the perhaps give testomies of successful treatments to give a posistive spin. . I think having a well versed therapist (well trained in treating SA) give the low down on SA would be very appropiate
. There is a therapist in Phonic Az.. that suffered from SA and he eventually came up with a program that appears to be very succesful. He has a web site and one can order tapes from him. He probably be an excellent informative expert. Like some of you mentioned , I wonder if Dr. Phil is open enough.
I did get email response from Dr. Phil's website. The letter said they receive large volume of mail. They attempt to read all mails and there is no guarantee they will respond to it.
 

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Aristole, do you have the therapist website (az)?

Dr Phil, I like him, very much so, I"m a pretty head on person, don't pick up on subltness (can't spell) when it comes right down to it, what does everyone think Dr Phil would say........

Me.......I *think*......."Believe in yourself, change your pattern of thinking....LIttle steps, give yourself a pat on the back, no more negative thinking"........It would be interesting.....
 

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Hema,
Check out http://www.socialanxietyinstitute.com, The doctor's name is Thomas Richard. I was never involved in the program since I have recovered enough to not feel a need for more therapy, It looks pretty legitimit. They also have support groups in the large cities for people who have completed his tape programs.
I found this site a couple years ago when searching SA sites and found this one about the same time.
 

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I checked a couple days ago to see what his show was about and it was about a woman who was hustling to find a man who was a least a millionaire. Turned it off because it was a waste of my time to watch something of such about something so cheap. Don't understand why he would spend time on such topics when there are many serious issues that would have priorities. Now I think Phil is a realy good guys and had put on some excellent informative shows. In reality network tv is extremely competitive and he is probably forced (by his producer that do topics like that). What ever the case topics like the above just irritates me.
 
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