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post #61 of 231 (permalink) Old 08-22-2011, 08:26 PM
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My recommendation is to stay FAR FAR AWAY from this "supplement". Unless taking the stuff at the recommended dosages seems to have an amazing effect on you, don't bother with the stuff. Increasing the dosages still yields no benefit as far as I can tell and seems to lead to an agonizing "crash" type period.
What other supplements or meds have you tried? How do they compare?
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Honestly, nothing prescription wise as recommended. I've taken supplements (fish oil, lithium) which I'd like to say helped with concentration and anxiety slightly, but no supplements have really had a marked effect on either. I haven't seen any docs about my anxiety/depression, but I'm going on the assumption that they're both caused in part by my ADHD (which I have seen a doc about and been diagnosed with).

As far as meds in general, I've taken adderall from friends a few times. Definitely helped with both ADHD and anxiety. Didn't see any effects on depression, but I'm not chronically depressed. I have ups and downs and for the most part I think they can be attributed to my SA and the effects that has. The crash off adderall (yes, it is definitely noticeable) is no fun, but doesn't leave me in the hopelessly depressed/agitated/vacant feeling that this SJW did. Adderall leaves me feeling drained and unmotivated. This SJW just left me feeling god awful.

Also used hydrocodone/oxycodone many times. Totally demolished any signs of SA and depression, great feeling. Never helped in the least with ADHD. I'm usually up all night when I've taken these (due to wanting to hang out/talk with people or just as a matter of circumstance, not due to any stimulating properties) and end up going to bed while/just after coming down, so I'm not really able to comment on after-effects. But I will say that the comedown is fairly gradual and gives a nice "soft landing" effect. Might have noticed next-day anxiety but that was more likely due to fatigue after 4 hours of sleep than any actual effects of the drugs.

No comparison with SJW. No beneficial effects what so ever and the crash, at higher doses, in my opinion, is worse than even low dose amphetamine. Though to be fair, most people I know crash much harder off adderall than I do. I guess on the plus-side, this stuff is completely non-addictive, as there is no reason anybody in their right mind would want to abuse this stuff.


Sorry if this seems harsh, but this is literally the worst I've felt in months, and I've had a few pretty awful days (relationship issues, etc, etc). Today should have been one of the best in weeks with all the great things that happened, and instead I felt like **** for hours on end.


Never taken any SSRIs or Benzos or such so no comment there
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Ok well according to my brief experiences with this supplement, the main theme seems to be that you never know what you are going to get. One day I am very happy, depression lifted. The next, I am neutral, as If I hadn't taken anything. And another day I could be totally miserable and angry. I don't really know what the deal is with the drug, or if my range of emotions under the influence of this drug only occurred because of me, not the drug. But it can definitely put you through an emotional roller coaster, one I haven't experienced before I tried taking it.
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I should have done some google research first..

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=47289

Not a good experience.

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Also http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=17032
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^ 25 capsules/day jfc
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Yeah I would die most likely. Don't see how someone could get to 25 a day and not notice how horrible they felt. I couldn't handle 12.

As a comparison, today was my first day not taking this stuff in about 4 days. It wasn't a great day in general. Highlights of the day were probably getting dropped from one of my most important/interesting classes as there wasn't space in it for me, and not getting to say goodbye to one of my best friends (partially as a result of feeling too depressed and exhausted yesterday to do anything), which was close to traumatic for me. Yet in spite of this, I felt nearly euphoric driving home after class. Ended up going to the casino with some friends and winning about a hundred bucks.

Anxiety wasn't really any worse today, but I did find myself actually giving a **** about what I said to people and how I said it (going over my words in my head whenever I thought I acted akwardly/misspoke). I didn't do this at all yesterday, which I find strange.

So I guess withdrawls from meds that make you feel like **** are a good thing. So if you want to feel great in a few days, take some meds that make you horribly depressed the day prior. You'll have a great "come up" and will "uncrash" the next day.
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Yeah I would die most likely. Don't see how someone could get to 25 a day and not notice how horrible they felt. I couldn't handle 12.

As a comparison, today was my first day not taking this stuff in about 4 days. It wasn't a great day in general. Highlights of the day were probably getting dropped from one of my most important/interesting classes as there wasn't space in it for me, and not getting to say goodbye to one of my best friends (partially as a result of feeling too depressed and exhausted yesterday to do anything), which was close to traumatic for me. Yet in spite of this, I felt nearly euphoric driving home after class. Ended up going to the casino with some friends and winning about a hundred bucks.

Anxiety wasn't really any worse today, but I did find myself actually giving a **** about what I said to people and how I said it (going over my words in my head whenever I thought I acted akwardly/misspoke). I didn't do this at all yesterday, which I find strange.

So I guess withdrawls from meds that make you feel like **** are a good thing. So if you want to feel great in a few days, take some meds that make you horribly depressed the day prior. You'll have a great "come up" and will "uncrash" the next day.
I also heard really scary things about interactions between St johns wort and certain medications. even really super common things like advil and stuff. and potential liver problems and stuff too? too scary for me
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St John's Wort is little more than a fad. I tried it for a while and got a little calmer from placebo. But that wore off and I realized I had totally wasted my money. I even talked to a psychotherapist who said it was [email protected] What did help was Theanine, Gaba, B vitamins and Trpytophan.
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I tried it for about three months straight about a year and a half ago. I can't remember the exact effect it had on me. I stopped taking it because it made me really sensitive to the sun even with sun block on. I used the organic tincture version sold on Mountainroseherbs.com. I'm trying it again though because I bought so much of it ( actually made my own tincture of it with the dry herb, too ) so might as well use it.
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I tried this. No effect at all
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Tried this twice.

Both times I used the top range brand, even though it wasn't cheap.

On neither occasion did I feel any discernible difference.
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Following some periods of bad depression and severe peaks and troughs, I have been taking St John's Wort for about 2 years now. I find it really levels me out, makes me calmer more rational and just generally makes day to day life and stress easier to deal with. I have decreased my dose to only one 300mg tablet. However, I have found that I have been unable to sleep, waking up at about 4am every morning and not being able to get back to sleep. This improved when I started taking my daily tablet first thing in the morning, but I am still waking up at around 5am. I have been taking various sleeping tablets but this has not worked. I am resigned to waking up at 5am every morning. The other real problem is that when I take the St John's Wort tablet I get stomach pains, cramps and very bad wind, so much so that it becomes painful and uncomfortable. Having done some research I have found that this may be due to the tyramine in the food I am eating. It is particularly bad when I have been drinking beer. This is causing a real problem. I don't feel that I can manage though without taking St John's Wort. I have just stopped taking it for a week and feel absolutely terrible; irritable, aggressive, depressed and anxious. I have had therapy, and I don't really want to take anti depressants. What can I do?
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I'm not convinced this is anything more than a placebo. I've tried a lot of supplements and this is one of the only ones that did absolutely NOTHING.
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I tried for two months and didnt notice anything different.
I guess it wasnt for me.
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I felt the same way after the 6 a day.
Never again. lol
I know we're all impatient for a cure, but 6 days seems too short a trial. Especially when you consider doctors want you to stay on their RX meds for 2 or 3 months before giving up.

St. John's Wort does little to nothing for my social anxiety. It just helps with the depression/lack of energy from having had social anxiety my whole sucky life. Wellbutrin was a bit better for the depression, but was expensive and had more negative side effects.

I have less depression (thus more energy to pretend to be social) on St. John's Wort than off it.
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I tried SJW for several months. From 300mg to 450mg a day.
It is really active. Definitely not a placebo for the brands I used (with standardized extract).

The pros:
-Helps to fight depression, gives energy.
-Gives you an appetite.

The cons:
-Tricky to use, to find the right dose or the right moment: It made my mood shifting from joy, to mania, to anxiety, to joy... I was more aggressive too.Those changes were too hard to bear. This is why I stopped.
-Interaction with other drugs: For example I took some ginkgo biloba simultaneously sometimes. I learned afterward it was a bad idea... Beware of serotonin syndrome.
-Makes the skin sun sensitive: Sunburns.
-Gives you an appetite.

In conclusion:
For somebody with a stable mood who wants some antidepressant effects and who is not affected by compulsion or obsession: It is worth a try.
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I tried this. No effect at all

Tried SJW for two weeks, after not being able to get out of bed, decided I would stop taking it. I hated life, and felt like there is no sense in being here. I have had feelings of anxiety worsen on SJW, and will never take it again. Anyone else?
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St johns wort & 5htp plus omega 3, evening primrose


Hi can someone tell me taking all the above is it safe? I read alot of confilcting information. I have stopped the Lexapro and Im feeling damn good on all of this so Im hoping its ok to take together.
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I've been reading up on St. John's Wort recently and I'm hoping someone could tell me if they've tried it and was it a viable option for depression (I've had it for about three years now). I tried antidepressants but came off them cold turkey after 4 or 5 months because I'd rather feel down than absolutely nothing.

So, St. John's Wort, what's the verdict?
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