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post #21 of 1414 (permalink) Old 11-26-2010, 10:17 PM
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Personally, 1g of phenibut is comparable to the benzo ativan to me; I can definitely notice the effect, unlike most supplements I've tried. Other people may react differently or need a higher dose than 1g. This is based entirely on my experience, no science at all, heh. It is not nearly a cure for SA though. It does well to relieve some stress and anxiety, but does not make me much more comfortable talking to people. It was almost a cure with adderall though, til I started puking..
so i have to know, have you taken 2g of this stuff yet? because when I first took it I took 1g, it didnt do much at that time... so i took 2g and i waited for about 15 mins, (I was drinking lots of water at this time too, i just always heard that drinking lots of water moves anything you ingest through your system very good.) anyways after that I was at that point where I was happy, havent felt that way in along time around family. but... i agree with you it is not cure for SA, but it sure helps me
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Not yet, though I have another 'thanksgiving' dinner thing on sunday with all my boyfriends friends, and I'll need all the help I can get to help me through it! So probably then. I'll let you know! but I'm glad it helped you a bit!

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Not yet, though I have another 'thanksgiving' dinner thing on sunday with all my boyfriends friends, and I'll need all the help I can get to help me through it! So probably then. I'll let you know! but I'm glad it helped you a bit!
thank you so much, I sure pray my friend that it does help you very very much, let me know.
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This definitely reduces anxiety.
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It isn't available in Canada? Why?
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Phenibut is one of the biggest joke's out of history, goes straight in line with PEA and jenkem
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Edit: Also I just saw on another website some guy talking about PEA. I've never heard of it before. He says you need to take it with H.E.A.T for it to be orally active, because of the hodenine in the H.E.A.T
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Phenibut is one of the biggest joke's out of history, goes straight in line with PEA and jenkem
I don't know where you got yours or if you've even tried it, but I assure you it is VERY effective at reducing anxiety for me and is unquestionably not a placebo effect. There are very noticeable effects. Maybe it doesn't work for you, you got a bad brand, or you didn't take enough, but it works for a lot of people.

I encourage everyone to try phenibut for yourselves if you get a chance. The dose I use is typically 1g but I've taken up to 2.5g before. I wouldn't recommend that though because it gives me some infrequent muscle twitches and a bad hangover and drowsiness the next day.

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I don't know where you got yours or if you've even tried it, but I assure you it is VERY effective at reducing anxiety for me and is unquestionably not a placebo effect. There are very noticeable effects. Maybe it doesn't work for you, you got a bad brand, or you didn't take enough, but it works for a lot of people.

I encourage everyone to try phenibut for yourselves if you get a chance. The dose I use is typically 1g but I've taken up to 2.5g before. I wouldn't recommend that though because it gives me some infrequent muscle twitches and a bad hangover and drowsiness the next day.
Based on anecdotes, phenibut sounds awesome. Sounds like it gives you the 'invincibility' feeling that alcohol can give you. Tolerance sounds like a big issue. Maybe combining with aniracetam and theanine and only using twice a week could give you the same feeling that you get firs time, every time. That would be cool. Great replacement for alcohol.
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I don't know where you got yours or if you've even tried it, but I assure you it is VERY effective at reducing anxiety for me and is unquestionably not a placebo effect. There are very noticeable effects. Maybe it doesn't work for you, you got a bad brand, or you didn't take enough, but it works for a lot of people.

I encourage everyone to try phenibut for yourselves if you get a chance. The dose I use is typically 1g but I've taken up to 2.5g before. I wouldn't recommend that though because it gives me some infrequent muscle twitches and a bad hangover and drowsiness the next day.
I think he means it's a joke because of the rapid tolerance that develops. I heard one guy say you never get the feeling you got the first time again. Shame.
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It isn't available in Canada? Why?
Because Canada has silly, super strict laws about health supplements as if they were evil unless it's "natural", like a vitamin.

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I don't know where you got yours or if you've even tried it, but I assure you it is VERY effective at reducing anxiety for me and is unquestionably not a placebo effect. There are very noticeable effects. Maybe it doesn't work for you, you got a bad brand, or you didn't take enough, but it works for a lot of people.

I encourage everyone to try phenibut for yourselves if you get a chance. The dose I use is typically 1g but I've taken up to 2.5g before. I wouldn't recommend that though because it gives me some infrequent muscle twitches and a bad hangover and drowsiness the next day.
I know it works but it causes rapid tolerance not seen with any other drugs, besides that once your addicted the withdrawals are terrible for many, if it didnt cause as much tolerance id consider it a good supplement.

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Care to elaborate?

Edit: Also I just saw on another website some guy talking about PEA. I've never heard of it before. He says you need to take it with H.E.A.T for it to be orally active, because of the hodenine in the H.E.A.T
Pea is another joke, it gives you a 30 minute high in combination with deprenyl, besides that if you take too much its cardiovasculary dangerous, there's no point in trying this.

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I know it works but it causes rapid tolerance not seen with any other drugs, besides that once your addicted the withdrawals are terrible for many, if it didnt cause as much tolerance id consider it a good supplement.
Well that's true, as with any drug you have to be responsible and know the limits. I take it very infrequently, maybe once a month because I knew about the tolerance issues ahead of time, so that was never a problem. I never heard of addiction being an issue with it but I don't doubt it.

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^^ Once a month is very good, but ive heared ppl getting permanent tolerance after taking it only once weekly, wich doesnt occur with many other substances.

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I'd like to try it myself. Max of twice weekly. I like GABA type drugs. GHB, GBL, benzos, chloral hydrate.. it's too bad the older sedatives are off the market too. I quit GBL/GHB though, they call it a "date rape drug" and will nail you to the wall if arrested with it.

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besides that once your addicted the withdrawals are terrible
We are talking about what kind of addiction? I've heard about tolerance and withdrawal symptoms with phenibut. Honestly - I don't know what is the difference between withdrawal symptoms and physical dependence. It is the same thing? Because SSRIs can also make withdrawal symptoms and they are considered non-addictive...
Personally - I never had even withdrawal symptoms after SSRIs.

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Well that's true, as with any drug you have to be responsible and know the limits. I take it very infrequently, maybe once a month because I knew about the tolerance issues ahead of time, so that was never a problem. I never heard of addiction being an issue with it but I don't doubt it.
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^^ Once a month is very good, but ive heared ppl getting permanent tolerance after taking it only once weekly, wich doesnt occur with many other substances.
And what about increasing dosage? If 1mg is permanently not working and I will take 2 or 3mg? Because if I can take it only once a month I definatly prefer my benzos ;p
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I've heard a lot about phenibut.

I cannot find it for sale! I hear it's not sold as a supplement in Canada, but is legal as a research chemical.

If anybody has a Canadian source, PLEASE EMAIL/MESSAGE ME!!!

I used to use GBL a lot and this sounds like a milder and more long acting version of that.

I'd only use it twice a week due to it addictive properties.

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I hope u tried this combo before stating that. 10mg of deprenyl with large doses of phenylethylamine 30mins later last hours. Infact I've been awake using this combo for 5 days straight many times. I was an addict. Unless u took it like I or others that were addicted, u can't call it a joke. Phenibut is also far from a joke.
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I'm asking about Your personal experiences. Do You people think that Phenibut can be compared to real anxiolytics like benzos or it is just a placebo like lteanine or valerian?

Because if it's a placebo then it's expensive placebo and I don't want to loose about 25 euros for it ;P
Way better. Infact I believe they banned it from coming into canada to iliminate the compitition with benzos. Pharmacutical companies will make sure anything standing in their way gets banned. Famous examples of canada's ignorance: acetyl-l-carnitine is illigal and only gets prescribed, like WTF. Yohimbine HCL is also banned and only legal by prescription for the use of erectyle disfunction. I got both of these supplements into canada more than once and can say they're potent and do exactly wat they say. The Russians produced it in the 60's for anxiety. Russians wouldn't just produce a substance with such proporties if it was not potent. Try it, you won't regret it.
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