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post #41 of 67 (permalink) Old 12-05-2012, 07:03 PM
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The masturbation BS did piss me off and for this reason; I have suffered from SA for as long as I can remember and some religious nut-bags want to tell me that it is because I touch myself too much. And don't fool yourself, this is blatant right wing christian BS. I find these religious nuts are just far too interested in other peoples genitals. It's rather perverse, actually.

The website yourbrainonporndotcom is always mentioned and I checked out it's credentials. A whole bunch of articles on the mating habits of rats and some stuff about dopamine receptors but NOTHING of any consequence. Never mind that the real thing gets my dopamine levels going way more than some web based visual aid ever could(of course I am basing that on subjective experience and not an empirical measure of my dopamine transmission but you get the idea).

I bugs me because here we are; low down and strung out and someone wants to tell us its cos we w&nk too munch. F*(k off with that one, BIG TIME...
Yea I agree with alot of people seeming like they are neurotic LOL. Some are just really REALLY ****ing depressed and have a deeply negative view of themselves and the world.

I think I know what your talking about concerning the cognitive part. My anxiety is no more either but Im still learning the "social rules" for lack of a better term, and basically just controlling some thoughts or actions when its not appropriate. For example, Sometimes I just cant think of anything to say, not nervous, but im just there basically strategically conversating. Sometimes it flows naturally, sometimes its like a strategic game.

About the masturbation, I dont remember how the OP worded the posts, but I never took it as THE cause of SA, or being right wing christians, or even obsessing about my genitals lol. I took it as it will help WITH PEOPLE WHO JACK OFF TO COPE. Thats where the problem lies. Plus it leaves you content, and therefore have less ambition.

Plus, I already said it a couple times to other people on those threads that SEX isnt the same as masturbation. I even got a reply saying "Your body doesnt know the difference between orgasm". They are only looking at the surface of things.The point is that sex isnt masturbation. Masturbation is usually accompanied by porn. Masturbation is always associated with lust, NOT love or intimacy, LIKE SEX WITH SOMEONE YOU LOVE. Sex with someone you love has many aspects that are positive, unlike masturbation. Its just common sense.

It just bugs me when people say something like "Stopped readaing after the word GOD". Like why be that narrow minded? Sure, they might be atheists, but the thread isnt about religion, its about masturbation. The religion thing is just someone's own beliefs that you can understand in your OWN way.

Also when people come and outright say "THIS DOESNT WORK DONT EVEN TRY".
A few were even saying "WOW. this thread is STILL here? why hasnt this been closed down yet? Where are the mods? C'mon do SOMETHING close it!"
See where Im coming from? So it seems like your not like the rest of those people and have actually gotten laid, thats good because you arent for censorship either. But those narrow minded people, its like they are emotionally offended or dont want to be open about that topic so they think its alrite to make it so NO ONE talks about it.

Anyways, I think I understand what kind of person you are at least a little bit now and hope we can both stay open-minded if not just for the sake of letting people try it for themselves. Nothing wrong with posting opinions or sources, of course, but lets not debunk it all together.
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L-Tyrosine with and without B6 - big difference?


I started taking L-Tyrosine (NOW brand) two weeks ago. I take 500-1000 mg in the morning on an empty stomach and wait at least 30-45 minutes before eating breakfast. I have NOT been taking Vitamin B6 with it until today.

Today, I waited until around 10:00 AM and took 500 mg WITH a B Complex vitamin and I can say I think I felt a difference.

Until today, it has just made me anxious and worried but after the dose this morning, my mood actually improved quite a bit and my focus was good.

Has anyone else noticed that much of a difference?
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Itís not strong like a drug, but it definitely does something. Itís mildly stimulating, mildly relaxing, and I think a bit better. It makes things less boring. Swallowing them is pretty weak, but putting one under the tongue has significant effects. It feels weird. You just need to try this to understand it.
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Unfortunately you can develop a tolerance to L-tyrosine.I just saw a study on Pubmed saying it was ineffective with adhd because all the subjects got tolerance after 2 weeks.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3300376
It really sucks when you think you've found something that finally works,then it fails.Been there many times.
There is another form of L-tyrosine out now(l-acetyl-tyrosine or something like that)that is suppose to be absorbed more efficiently, but tolerance may once again become a factor.
I found that L-tyrosine can be really effective when coming down from Adderall xr.(An amphetamine for adhd) It seems to really help with the depressive "blah"type of feeling that accompanies the comedown.Unfortunately I became tolerant to it (as well as the adderall!)sucks.
I do not think that people are developing a tolerance for tyrosine in the true sense of the word tolerance. I have seen it mentioned that taking too much tyrosine can actually result in retarding the release of dopamine. This obviously could be a sign of tolerance but it can also be because an imbalance in other vital nutrients has been created.

I have a theory which I am going to experiment with over the next few days, I discovered that milk contains tyrosine but that only skimmed milk for whatever reason will allow you to absorb it or turn it into dopamine, I used to drink a lot of skimmed milk when I experimented with tyrosine in the past along with DLPA, at this time I felt effects for months and not sure why i stopped taking it now, but tyrosine on its own only causes me to become depressed. I have tried it alone with the skimmed milk for the last few days and yes it seemed to be increasing dopamine levels but I've also become depressed.
To get to the point I think skimmed milk alone first thing in the morning with some good rhodiola rosea which I have been taking for over a month now, rhodiola rosea has made a massive difference to me, it really lifted me from my worst case of depression ever ive experienced, this has came about through taking duloxetine medication, I mean my worst depression episode, I believe that anyway, so anyway during this time before the rhodiola I started smoking because I needed to smoke to stop me thinking, I was going nuts but anyway since Ive stopped smoking the rhodiola does not seem to be making me feel happy, maybe this is a lot to do with stopping smoking but I'm sure it is also due to smoking cigarettes releasing masses of dopamine into my blood stream.

So now I hope that taking the skimmed milk alone with rhodiola rosea (viridian max potency) then this will increase my dopamine levels without increasing my depression also like supplementing with tyrosine has did in last few days. I think supplementing is causing imbalances in different places resulting in depression and ultimately the failure of the supplement to do anything at all.
However I still believe DLPA and Tyrosine can work together effectively for a much longer period of time but I think sticking to as natural a method as possible is the wise thing because you will look like **** with so many amino acids poisoning your system, DLPA I'm sure is toxic, it makes me look like an alien hobo sometimes thats why i dont touch it

just a tip if you want to try rhodiola dont take a full capsule, you only need a fraction maybe a a 1/3 or a 1/4

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The masturbation BS did piss me off and for this reason; I have suffered from SA for as long as I can remember and some religious nut-bags want to tell me that it is because I touch myself too much. And don't fool yourself, this is blatant right wing christian BS. I find these religious nuts are just far too interested in other peoples genitals. It's rather perverse, actually.

The website yourbrainonporndotcom is always mentioned and I checked out it's credentials. A whole bunch of articles on the mating habits of rats and some stuff about dopamine receptors but NOTHING of any consequence. Never mind that the real thing gets my dopamine levels going way more than some web based visual aid ever could(of course I am basing that on subjective experience and not an empirical measure of my dopamine transmission but you get the idea).

I bugs me because here we are; low down and strung out and someone wants to tell us its cos we w&nk too munch. F*(k off with that one, BIG TIME...

This is totally true. I've had a Chrisitan priest tell me masturbation is totally harmful to young men. He told me it destroyed their nerves, made them fearful, less intelligent and it brings many illnesses.
I took this to heart as I was a young boy at the age of 18 and fell into depression and anxiety many months later.

These types of advices can totally destroy young teens.
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Tyrosine should not be taken at night, since it can interfere with sleep. Presumably in the morning is best.

I did not realize that tyrosine could cause depression.

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Stopped using this when I heard it can increase risk of malignant skin cancer!
See: http://www.anyvitamins.com/tyrosine-info.htm

"Dosage levels are not confirmed but some experiments have been performed with people taking up to 5 - 7 grams per day, with no confirmed toxic levels, but people taking MAO inhibitors, who suffer from high blood pressure and have problems with skin cancer should not take supplementation of L-tyrosine, and should aim to limit their intake of food sources high in this nutrient."

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I tried skimmed milk on its own in attempt to obtain some tyrosine into my bloodstream, maybe I was too impatient but it seemed to be having no effects whatsover about an hour after drinking it, and this was taking it with rhodiola rosea.
So I tried putting a little tyrosine under my tongue and I got an immediate hit, so hopefully this may be something that can be maintainable if the tyrosine dosage is low enough and I continue to drink skimmed milk on its own in the morning to obtain nutrients which balance well with tyrosine. Rhodiola rosea aids in releasing dopamine and seretonin but its also a theory that long term use of rhodiola has the same type of results as an snri or an ssri in that it will make the dopamine and seretonin released by the brain available for longer, by the way goji berries release seretonin
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Tyrosine should not be taken at night, since it can interfere with sleep. Presumably in the morning is best.

I did not realize that tyrosine could cause depression.
How does Tyrosine cause depression?
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Product label says: 1/4 teaspoon is 400 mg of L Tyrosine
If you take 3 teaspoons (all leveled NOT heaping) how much does that equal in total mg's of tyrosine?
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How does Tyrosine cause depression?
Someone earlier in this thread said that it had given them depression.

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Empirical data or GTFO. What is so bad about my outlook? I like to see evidence and the evidence for this is non-existent. So please, take your protestations elsewhere...

I've tried many other supplements in the past year and didn't feel any positive effects from them, for the past year I have been very depressed, lost my job because I couldn't focus and forgot how to do stuff (web developer) had no energy......first few times I took L-Tyrosine I had a huge burst of energy/adrenaline feeling......almost like a panic attack that lasted for 10-12 hours. After a week of taking this supplement my body started to level out and I could actually do work I haven't been able to do in over a year and ran 10km yesterday for the first time in a year as well........the best proof you can get is from personal experience......I'm sure you've tried stuff or had something work for you that apparently was proven otherwise in some study or from others experience.......don't be so closed minded and naive just because of something you read somewhere. I also started taking vitamin b6 a week before this, but didn't feel the effects like I am now since started taking the l-tyrosine.......maybe that's what's making it work so well, either way it's working.
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This is totally true. I've had a Chrisitan priest tell me masturbation is totally harmful to young men. He told me it destroyed their nerves, made them fearful, less intelligent and it brings many illnesses.
I took this to heart as I was a young boy at the age of 18 and fell into depression and anxiety many months later.

These types of advices can totally destroy young teens.
I had a similiar thing done to me except I was told I was going to hell for masturbating and that even thinking about having sex was evil. Totally screwed me up when it comes to sex.

When you feel vulnerable and your psychological defenses are failing the best defense mechanism is to be more trusting.
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Always took L-tyrosine in the evening back in past to replenish my dopamine stores. DLPA works better for that though. Tolerance builds up very fast with L-tyrosine. NADH another one that boosts up the dopamine production in the brain. On psychobabble they rave about it.

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Tyrosine is a precursor to catecholamines. It converts to L-Dopa, then L-Dopa to Doamine, Dopamine to Noradrenaline & then finally noradrenaline to adrenaline. It is certainly better to take tyrosine than it is to take tryptophan or 5-HTP. The acetylated version is found in many energy shots.
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If tyrosine converts into L-dopa why we shouldn't just take L-dopa instead? I've read it works pretty well in combination with EGCG or any other antioxidant as long is not taken everyday.
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If tyrosine converts into L-dopa why we shouldn't just take L-dopa instead? I've read it works pretty well in combination with EGCG or any other antioxidant as long is not taken everyday.

Because its too expensive & an obscure supplement & because without a decarboxylase inhibitor its better the dopa be slowly created from tyrosine

I wish DOPA was cheap but yea, all tyrosine does is convert to DOPA as its first step.
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Just registered for this forum to comment here... I have been taking l-tyrosine for appetite suppression, along with vitamin c in the morning to fight off an infection I am getting. It's been about 4 days and I noticed a significant decrease in my social anxiety. I did not know that l-tyrosine was supposed to help with anxiety, but when I looked around online that seemed to be the only change in my intake. The difference is absolutely amazing (like night and day, I have never had *any* other treatment for my anxiety, was always too anxious to go to a doctor about it, lol). Just wanted to put that little bit of anecdotal experience out there, for those who are saying it's just a placebo effect. Definitely not a placebo effect here, since I had no idea prior to taking it.
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N-acetyl-L-tyrosine


N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine is much stronger than L-Tyrosine. In fact it may act differently. It can be used up to 400 mg per day or so depending on body weight. Be careful it has a strong dose dependent response. I use it as a good get up and go stimulant instead of coffee. It reduces anxiety as well. It has a strong peak and will return cognitive, social and sensory levels to normal very gently. If you take much more it can cause hyperactivity or sleep. Frankly 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine did nothing for me even at several times the recommended doses.

I would recommend sunlight (vit. D), Taurine, a good diet and removing foods that promote immune reactions and swelling in the gut. 70% of the serotonin in your body is produced in the gut - not the brain! Disbiosis and bad gut immune reactions (cheese/milk [casein], wheat [gluten], eggs, coffee, corn syrup, etc..) can keep a good person feeling absolutely miserable.
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