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I've been taking 5-HTP in the evening for quite some time now.
It does help a little with sleep and mood.

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I purchased a bottle of Nature's Way 5-HTP 200mg supplements with 100mg vitamin B6.

Use and Dosage: I'm attempting to use it for depression, not so much for insomnia and anxiety. I take no other meds. I will be taking one 200mg in the morning before eating and one 200mg before I sleep. Wish me luck!

Have I used 5-HTP before?
Yes several times without a consistent dosage. My depressive thoughts began to wither away close to a week into taking it, but I would never buy another bottle when I ran out so this time I will take it for 2 weeks straight and log my results to get a more accurate conclusion.

Right now: I am a depressed, stressed, anxious mess. Let's see if 5-HTP will magically whip up some serotonin~
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I wanna try some 5-HTP supplement, but there are so many brands I am quite confused :/, can anyone advise me a product or brand pls ? Some say there are test "peak X free", Is that peak X stuff a real issue ? I am thinking to take Doctor's best do you know if it's a good/safe product/brand ? thanks
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Hello everyone. I'm new to this forum and have come here to share a little bit of my experience in hopes of helping w/o the use of pharmaceuticals.

I too suffered from social anxiety & depression. It got to the point where I couldn't function like a normal human in or out social situations. I don't have my PhD yet but I'd consider myself an expert in the supplementation of 5-htp. I promise, and I can vouch that if you use this vitamin correctly it WILL blow any prescription SSRI out the water.
Please feel free to message me or email me. I'd be glad to help.
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Serotonin is useless guys.... Serotonin converts to melatonin in the brain and melatonin makes you calm/relaxed so its good for sleeping but just overall reducing stress... so just supplement with melatonin instead which will benefit you more and not come with any side effects you get from 5-htp if you do..Serotonin alone does not do much . If you have a good or even average diet you should be getting enough Serotonin anyway so just supplementing it with more is waste of time. You know how many things(FOOD) you take into your body contains tryptophan(serotonin another name) ? Too many.. unless you have a genetic mutation that breaks down serotonin fast or something you shouldnt be supplementing.. even then I dont think you should IMO serotonin = USELESS.
All the food that goes into your body the toxic/bad stuff in the gut gets converted to serotonin.

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Serotonin is useless guys.... Serotonin converts to melatonin in the brain and melatonin makes you calm/relaxed so its good for sleeping but just overall reducing stress... so just supplement with melatonin instead which will benefit you more and not come with any side effects you get from 5-htp if you do..Serotonin alone does not do much . If you have a good or even average diet you should be getting enough Serotonin anyway so just supplementing it with more is waste of time. You know how many things(FOOD) you take into your body contains tryptophan(serotonin another name) ? Too many.. unless you have a genetic mutation that breaks down serotonin fast or something you shouldnt be supplementing.. even then I dont think you should IMO serotonin = USELESS.
All the food that goes into your body the toxic/bad stuff in the gut gets converted to serotonin.
I'd agree with most of what you write.
But serotonin production can be low even though tryptophan from food is high.
This is because there's a second pathway for tryptophan utilization called the kyurenine pathway. It will ultimately produce NAD, but the products in between can also contribute to depression and anxiety. The pathway is activated by stress and broadly speaking inflammation and infection.
So 5-HTP can be helpful in some cases. I can't tolerate it orally even in tiny doses, so I switched to sublingual.
Also, melatonin production is inhibited by blue light, so 5-HTP supplementation doesn't automatically result in tiredness.
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Hi, glad I found this thread, I started taking this for 5 days I bought a 100mg bottle. I took for 2 days but got some side effects in this time including:

Dry Mouth
Lightheadedness
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jittery feeling.
Metallic/Chemical feeling in the mouth

Ok so I reduced to 50mg and this has lessened the side effects described above, however, I still a weird feeling of lightness, the best way to describe it is like feeling like a balloon. Like I'm not grounded.

But despite all that I definitely can feel the uplift of the mood. I'm am only 4 days in so I'm going to give it 2 weeks maximum to see if the side effects lessen more. I booked an appointment with the Naturopath so I will ask her what she thinks about 5htp.

Also, I'm hearing some people talk about pairing 5HTP with L-tyrosine. Whats the deal with this?
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Hi, glad I found this thread, I started taking this for 5 days I bought a 100mg bottle. I took for 2 days but got some side effects in this time including:



Dry Mouth

Lightheadedness

Diareahha

jittery feeling.

Metallic/Chemical feeling in the mouth



Ok so I reduced to 50mg and this has lessened the side effects described above, however, I still a weird feeling of lightness, the best way to describe it is like feeling like a balloon. Like I'm not grounded.



But despite all that I definitely can feel the uplift of the mood. I'm am only 4 days in so I'm going to give it 2 weeks maximum to see if the side effects lessen more. I booked an appointment with the Naturopath so I will ask her what she thinks about 5htp.



Also, I'm hearing some people talk about pairing 5HTP with L-tyrosine. Whats the deal with this?


Hey,

I am taking 200 mg of 5 - HTP dont have any side effects and im in week 2.
Also with it i am taking b complex, magnesium and fish oil. Def feel uplift and confidence is coming back.


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I am taking 200 mg of 5 - HTP dont have any side effects and im in week 2.
Also with it i am taking b complex, magnesium and fish oil. Def feel uplift and confidence is coming back.


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Cool glad it's working for you, I eventually gave up over time the side effects lessened but it wasn't effective regardless. Back on the st johns wort, much better for me. How are you taking the magnesium? I hear transdermal application of magnesium on the skin is much better than tablets. Orally the effectiveness is about 10/20% but through the skin is up to 70%. And it's fairly easy to make your own magnesium batch for rubbing in the skin Just Google magnesium, transdermal and homemade.
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Cool glad it's working for you, I eventually gave up over time the side effects lessened but it wasn't effective regardless. Back on the st johns wort, much better for me. How are you taking the magnesium? I hear transdermal application of magnesium on the skin is much better than tablets. Orally the effectiveness is about 10/20% but through the skin is up to 70%. And it's fairly easy to make your own magnesium batch for rubbing in the skin Just Google magnesium, transdermal and homemade.


Thanks i will try it out!


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Oh man 5-htp causes Eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, hey man I don't want to get that and possibly die. I do remember feeling flu-like alot on Prozac even though I wasn't really sick physically. Jesus christ! This is scary and I'm gonna throw it down the toilet! Wait, the toilet is a bad idea, actually I'm gonna throw it in the trash. That's what you get for not researching side effects first. Not only that but it also causes heart problems, hey man I want to die anyway but this is all too scary and long term sounding bull. The way you get happy naturally is by DOING things, of course you're depressed by not living your life. SSRIs might be safer than this over the counter **** after all. Why do they even sell this **** over the counter?! Unbelievable. This makes me wonder if all supplements cause some side effects as severe as 5-htp.

Eh maybe I can take one pill in low dose 50 or 100 mg once in a while, especially when I feel low or when I have to socialize, it's so nice to have some kind of a pill you can trick yourself with which allows you to take action in your life. I bet 1 month is enough to replenish whatever just like vitamin D or iron, I took those and they raised my numbers to normality but how can 5-htp do the same when we have so much serotonin already in our gut?! I bet those extreme side effects of cardiac fibrosis and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome are caused from long term use with higher doses of 5-HTP. I guess it's the same thing like asthma inhalers that can cause eye cataracts. You can find alot of info about 5-htp on reddit, basically they're all saying it circulates in the blood mostly in the peripheral nervous system and doesn't really cross the blood brain barrier or it does but not that much and most of it just raises the serotonin in the blood. I guess the serotonin raised in the blood could eventually be high enough to pass through the blood brain barrier but when it's so concentrated and high for a long time then I guess it can cause those severe side effects.

Mine is pretty bad ***, why would I get the one from Costco anyway?! I should have bought 5-htp from another store. This one from Costco is the updated version it's extra strength. So it's called Natrol 5-HTP Plus 100mg mood and relaxation and it has vitamin B6, vitamin B12, Calcium, Magnesium, 5-HTP, and Inositol. I mean I read that the vitamins help to convert it or carry it into the blood brain barrier so that's good. It's good that the one I have has these B vitamins in here, although they're not that high in mg it's good because I read that higher doses of vitamin B are not good with 5-HTP. But really can you trust everything you read?! Honestly I felt very good the first pill I took, well I was sleep deprived so maybe that's why. Then the second day I felt good too but my stomach hurt like hell and also alot of gas. And I felt like hot and very sleepy, I literally slept all day. It's good enough, you know how people drink alcohol and stuff, I can take one of this pill and feel good enough until I get some psychiatric help in order.

I've seen some videos on youtube about this and people supplement it with L-tyrosine which makes dopamine. It's scary though how taking 5-htp alone can down-regulate dopamine and taking it together with l-tyrosine makes everything better. Also 5-htp should be taken with some kind of vitamin B, maybe the complex B multivitamins could work and some other stuff like calcium, vitamin C, fish oil, vitamin D, magnesium, iron, idk it's really confusing so having all your blood work and vitamin levels checked out would really help! We need to have everything or at least enough of our vitamins and minerals to be able to absorb 5-htp or to be able to synthesize it.
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I've tried 5HTP a few times when I was first searching for anxiety-reducing supplements. I felt like it was very unpredictable. Sometimes it made me sleepy, sometimes it made me feel foggy/dizzy/lightheaded. Once I took it on am empty stomach (I intermittent fast) and it made me faint. I generally don't recommend it to people based on my experience. I kind of liked Aniracetam for a little while, but it always left me feeling jittery and depressed after it wore off. I take phenibut once or twice a week for big events or large get-togethers. I feel like it's pretty low risk in comparison to 5HTP, and it hasn't produced any worrisome side effects. But fir daily consumption I stick with L-Theanine. I tell everyone to try it. It's incredibly benign, it's another amino acid. I take a lot more than the recommended dose, though. I take a minimum of 400 mg and usually somewhere closer to 700-1000 mg is good for me. I always get it and phenibut from Liftmode and have yet to be disappointed. If you're trying to stay away from potentially addicting substances I'd say don't try phenibut, but L-Theanine is the bomb.
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