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TonyH 08-03-2016 08:33 PM

Did medications work for you?
 
I'm curious, medications often cause a wide variety of effects. But did they help you? For a large part even if they did remove your anxiety, you would still be intrinsically you however. Through CBT and books, it helps gain perspectives in ways you are behaving as many are further inducing your own anxiety (feeding it even). So I'm curious as to if medications helped you somehow care less what others think. Wouldn't they simply make you feel numb and less sensitive and kill all motivation? They are useful for a lot of things, but I think if it kills your sensitivity and ability to feel you'd be so detached and without a soul even LOL.

Did anyone become more extroverted on medication or simply you felt less anxiety but less inclined to interact because of itl? It is a curious question indeed.

versikk 08-03-2016 08:46 PM

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They are useful for a lot of things, but I think if it kills your sensitivity and ability to feel you'd be so detached and without a soul even LOL.
This is my experience so far. The higher the dose I take with SSRI, the flatter my personality gets. It gets harder to feel joy. It's not fun at all.

TonyH 08-03-2016 08:49 PM

That doesn't sound fun. Doctors give out antidepressants like chocolate from a confectionary shop. I guess CBT, Books and mindset changing are the way to go. With the right mindset, you can change the world. With the wrong one, you can live in your room and make your life hell.

versikk 08-03-2016 09:00 PM

If you have enough discipline and strength to power thru all the pain, it is indeed best to avoid meds. But for those of us who struggle that avoidance becomes less of an option.

VanitysFiend 08-04-2016 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyH (Post 1086679801)
I'm curious, medications often cause a wide variety of effects. But did they help you? For a large part even if they did remove your anxiety, you would still be intrinsically you however. Through CBT and books, it helps gain perspectives in ways you are behaving as many are further inducing your own anxiety (feeding it even). So I'm curious as to if medications helped you somehow care less what others think. Wouldn't they simply make you feel numb and less sensitive and kill all motivation? They are useful for a lot of things, but I think if it kills your sensitivity and ability to feel you'd be so detached and without a soul even LOL.

Did anyone become more extroverted on medication or simply you felt less anxiety but less inclined to interact because of itl? It is a curious question indeed.

I've been taking 20mg of an SSRI called citalopram hydrobromide since June 3rd 2016. I haven't had any therapy yet, and don't have an official diagnosis, but my GP's pretty confident I have SAD (at least). I would say they've helped me (and I'm hoping that therapy can help me some more). The meds defiantly help me care less about what others think, I don't postmortem my past interactions with people much anyone, although if something blindsides me it can still cause me anxiety in the present*. Numb just isn't the word I'd use to describe myself on these drugs, they stop my anxiety from becoming despair, and without the despair to preoccupy me I'm mostly bored sh*tless, which is motivating me to do things beyond hide in my room playing video games, watching TV, and reading random stuff online or in books all day. Being sensitive isn't much use when most of your feelings are depressing, my emotions may be flatter, but my intellect feels intact and it's playful enough to keep me entertained, who wouldn't sacrifice their soul in the name of self improvement :)

I'd say I've become abit more extroverted around people I know (not friends, just acquaintances), strangers are still an issue but it feels like more of a technically prob than an emotional one. I feel more inclined to interact without the anxiety.

Myosr 08-04-2016 04:34 AM

Tried half a dozen. All possible doses. For years sometimes. Totally useless. If anything, they make it much easier to avoid everything.

harrison 08-04-2016 04:58 AM

I used benzos for ages - long before this site or the internet was even thought of. They were great at first - like a Godsend actually, I would go into a sort of dream world. I used them for a long time to do various things - courses etc, got married on them - whatever. Then they start to **** with your memory - and the dose goes up. I had to go to rehab about half a dozen times to get away from them and felt like my brain was mush.

I then used Lexapro and Citalopram - they are not too bad but totally different. They took the edge of the anxiety a bit - made me slightly indifferent, spaced out, and made me eat like a ****ing horse. I would open the cupboard and just injest whatever was inside it. :) Jesus Christ.

The strange thing about the SSRI's was that when I stopped them and restarted them I would often get a different response. Now I can't take them at all - the citalopram I took a while ago made me feel very strange and not want to leave the house - it sort of made me worse.

VanitysFiend 08-04-2016 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by don (Post 1086682273)
I used benzos for ages - long before this site or the internet was even thought of. They were great at first - like a Godsend actually, I would go into a sort of dream world. I used them for a long time to do various things - courses etc, got married on them - whatever. Then they start to **** with your memory - and the dose goes up. I had to go to rehab about half a dozen times to get away from them and felt like my brain was mush.

I then used Lexapro and Citalopram - they are not too bad but totally different. They took the edge of the anxiety a bit - made me slightly indifferent, spaced out, and made me eat like a ****ing horse. I would open the cupboard and just ingest whatever was inside it. :) Jesus Christ.

The strange thing about the SSRI's was that when I stopped them and restarted them I would often get a different response. Now I can't take them at all - the citalopram I took a while ago made me feel very strange and not want to leave the house - it sort of made me worse.

*****! I wish citalopram had that effect on me, I have a very low appetite and thus am pretty skinny, and often have low energy. I've been trying to eat more healthily but those foods r so filling it just murders my appetite more than junk food...

First 2 weeks of citalopram did do a number on my sleep though...I'd wake up at 3am and wouldn't be able to go back to sleep :(

Michael1983 08-04-2016 08:56 AM

Benzo's turned me into an arrogant a-hole. Then they made me more anxious because my body was always anticipating a dose and soon I was taking ridiculous amounts because of tolerance.

As for SSRI's, i'm currently taking Mirtazapine and like it's been mentioned it's dulled my emotions. I don't feel happy nor sad, it's pure apathy. Also, my anxiety is still there it's just I don't really dwell on it as much. Maybe in combination with therapy it might be more beneficial but at present i've come to the decision of stopping it.

myself0500 08-04-2016 10:08 AM

They haven't worked for me yet . I am going to a new doctor sometime this month maybe I will find a medication that works idk . What I do know is I dont think a medication can make somebody like me who has no social skills somehow become social . I just dont know how therapy or mediation is going to somehow make me interesting and easy to talk to . I have nothing in common with any normal people and nothing to talk to them about , even just regular daily life . Just another reason among many reasons I am so afraid of the real world .

harrison 08-04-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by VanitysFiend (Post 1086683569)
*****! I wish citalopram had that effect on me, I have a very low appetite and thus am pretty skinny, and often have low energy. I've been trying to eat more healthily but those foods r so filling it just murders my appetite more than junk food...

First 2 weeks of citalopram did do a number on my sleep though...I'd wake up at 3am and wouldn't be able to go back to sleep :(

I'm glad the Citalopram is helping you somewhat mate - and it's strange isn't it how they affect everybody differently. I was skinny all my life, and am again now, although have filled out a bit in my "middle" age. :)

The lexapro used to put "weight" on around the belly - I've seen it mentioned before in the medication section on this site. Sometimes it seemed a lot more like bloating than fat and was very uncomfortable. (and embarassingly ugly)

I think my response to them might be due to some other problem I have. I become very manic after I stop them - which is strange. Not sure if it's bipolar or not but very strange. They got me away from the benzos which I'll always be grateful for though.

harrison 08-04-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by myself0500 (Post 1086684377)
They haven't worked for me yet . I am going to a new doctor sometime this month maybe I will find a medication that works idk . What I do know is I dont think a medication can make somebody like me who has no social skills somehow become social . I just dont know how therapy or mediation is going to somehow make me interesting and easy to talk to . I have nothing in common with any normal people and nothing to talk to them about , even just regular daily life . Just another reason among many reasons I am so afraid of the real world .

Well I can see how you'd think that mate but I doubt it's the case. I don't think you can probably know really how you'd be with no anxiety present - how could you know that as you haven't felt it yet?

My life has been very strange, and I'm sure that I don't really understand many of the things that have happened to me - but I do know that I had very bad anxiety, and still do in many situations. But I can talk to people and make them laugh (usually) once I actually get myself in the situation. I've even been told I'm a very likable person (which is nice) - although personally I think of myself as a bit of a dickhead. :) (sorry - typical Aussie self-depracating humour there. )

My point is that we can't know just how we will develop - because this terrible thing called anxiety is holding us back. It stops many of us from learning how to talk to people - simply because we're too afraid to. But once the anxiety is gone, or at least reduced - you might be able to learn how to socialise. Without the fear there you can develop more as a person - do more things and become more "interesting", for want of a better word.

Evo1114 08-04-2016 02:51 PM

For the most part, I think. However the side effects were far worse (for me) than the benefits anti-'depressants' (citalopram/celexa) gave me.

For instance, I felt like a complete moron when I was on them (probably because it was shifting some of my brain function from my thinking part into my dormant-for-over-30-years social part). And also, I had the fortune of dating a girl, and more often than not in the moments of the 'really fun stuff', physical parts of me completely checked out of the whole experience...causing her to get frustrated and me never seeing her again after the last time I had 'problems' occur.

JohnDoe26 08-04-2016 03:59 PM

It didn't do anything for me. It might take the edge off in some social situations, but in itself it only masks the problem, it doesn't solve it.

For instance, in my case: my social anxiety steams from my ugly appearance and my lack of social skills. Add meds, and I turn into an apathetic zombie who is still ugly and lacks social skills.

SplendidBob 08-04-2016 04:26 PM

Nope. The only substances that have any positive effect on me are benzos, stimulants (caffeine, ephedrine), and minor opiods (which aren't practical as a med). Neither are benzos really though (would only take them for emergency use).

SSRI's etc were useless, which was a shame, because with my Pure O OCD they were supposed to work really well, but alas they didn't (in fact my OCD got much better when I finally came off them ;)).

harrison 08-04-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by splendidbob (Post 1086687137)
Nope. The only substances that have any positive effect on me are benzos, stimulants (caffeine, ephedrine), and minor opiods (which aren't practical as a med). Neither are benzos really though (would only take them for emergency use).

SSRI's etc were useless, which was a shame, because with my Pure O OCD they were supposed to work really well, but alas they didn't (in fact my OCD got much better when I finally came off them ;)).

Bob - all I can say is thank God you're back. :)

SplendidBob 08-04-2016 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by don (Post 1086687745)
Bob - all I can say is thank God you're back. :)

Ah, it was only a brief excursion and I have been making the odd post ;)

:smile2:

harrison 08-04-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by splendidbob (Post 1086687801)
Ah, it was only a brief excursion and I have been making the odd post ;)

:smile2:

Oh okay mate - good to see you anway.

We have a new arrival from your neck of the woods. A bit of a hiker as a matter of fact - nice guy. (and he wears great hats) :)

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/...he-uk-1854777/

The Notorious D.B.L 08-04-2016 06:18 PM

Just got your PM mate. :grin2:

I thought I recognized Bob's posting style, and that he was a guy from another forum I used, but Bob's not him.

I hope Bob doesn't know me as I'm trying to do a bit of a fresh start here lol.

Btw I've probably only taken meds on 3 or 4 occasions, probably for about 4 months total, and didn't like the emotional blunting or sexual side effects.

Still feel like I'm suffering from some sexual side effects now and it's been almost three years since I last took meds.

Everyone's reacts differently to them though.

For some they seem to be a life saver, but they're not for me.

TonyH 08-04-2016 07:11 PM

This is truly fascinating. I remember reading somewhere that meds alone were not sufficient to actually help. Sure you have no anxiety, but you need CBT and therapies to actually change your behaviour and think differently. Meds alone should be used as a last resort and rather than doctors handing them out like there's no tomorrow. So on meds you may just get side effects and become a zombie. With therapy + meds you will get results. With therapy alone you will get results. It pays to have a good therapist or simply to read decent books by authors who have actually had anxiety or struggle with it. Have hope guys :)


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