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^^ Girl that's one long list!

I'm not even sure what the right therapist is supposed to do anymore. Apparently only CBT.

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Often the people who need the most help are those who can least afford it! Do they care? Hell no!
Yes, they don't. Almost no one else cares about it too. Also people don't care about sweatshop workers, modern slavery, homelessness etc. Or if they do they don't do anything to make the situation better. On one hand, I agree that's cynical and that's what I also don't like. On the other one, it's not that fair to put this whole baggage of responsibility on therapists. Are they responsible for all the traumatizing experiences, lousy parents, bad childhoods, economical problems, class oppression, capitalism etc just because they chose therapy and healing people as their profession? Not more than any of us. It's ethical to lower your price for people who can't afford it, but you can only do so much. You can't help everybody and heal the world. You also can't influence the government to change it's policy, insurance companies etc just on your own.

To me it's odd we even have such a profession as therapist because almost everyone needs one to different extents. Why would one pay to another person to feel loved and accepted, listened to, safe? So much could be done for things to get better in the world if we made a collective work as humanity.

I agree with other stuff you said though.

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Almost all therapists don't know how to treat the root cause of trauma but they can address and answers hundreds of symptoms and questions. One of the reasons people keep going back for many years and only learning to put up with their issues instead of healing their trauma. People like Eckhart Tolle, Teal Swan, Evette Rose, Dr Joe Dispenza and others are doing real work to help people heal.
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LOL - For me, this is one of the biggest reasons therapy can feel like a waste of time and money.

I've been starting to take written notes with me that I read which forces me face the emotions driving image A when I'm in a therapy session and become image B.
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None of mine helped much. The ones who helped most were the ones listening most of the time, if you can call that helpful

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LOL - For me, this is one of the biggest reasons therapy can feel like a waste of time and money.

I've been starting to take written notes with me that I read which forces me face the emotions driving image A when I'm in a therapy session and become image B.
Sorry, but I'm sort of glad to hear someone else is the same way because I have the same issue. Also glad that you seem to have found the way that helps you to express your emotions and be emotionally open. I actually found this picture on my therapist's social media page lol It's 100% about me and maybe about some of her other clients too.

I also do that, but I also have many doubts about the therapist and it prevents me from opening up as well as other things... Last times I was just sharing these doubts with her and it helped me to open up a bit more. Then there was a session where I expressed frustration about the fact that I don't see her reacting to stuff I'm saying to her and she gave me her feedback that it's better not to say anything at all and she would be present and involved in this silence then than just to say things for the sake of using the time (I share lots of stuff that happens to me and most of it is important as if it's a church confession, but I'm not emotional when I do that and when she tries to ask me questions about it I don't open up emotionally). She actually created a metaphor and said that it felt like I'm a mother who brought my child to therapy, the child is disinterested and silent and the mother tries to fill that time with talking to the therapist herself because she feels uncomfortable. Then I made a pause and started to talk about something more random, but what was actually on my mind at that time and she shared something about herself when I asked her about that topic and I shared my opinion too. I started to perceive her more as an equal person to me and next session I opened up much much more also because I was writing something to her before in an emotional state (she told me I could do that) and she started to mirror those emotions.

It was my last session so hopefully it continues to be this way because only that will help me to progress. I only had about 3-5 sessions like this in total. Other ones were just me saying lots of stuff at once briefly and superficially without any emotional attachment to it and ''I don't know''s and etc And I've been in therapy for almost two years now. I don't have sessions as often as it would probably be better for me though (I have them twice a month). But so does almost everyone else. And just like what Catechumen said, lots of people who also need it so badly and even more than me can't afford it at all so I'm very lucky so far.

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It was my last session so hopefully it continues to be this way because only that will help me to progress. I only had about 3-5 sessions like this in total. Other ones were just me saying lots of stuff at once briefly and superficially without any emotional attachment to it and ''I don't know''s and etc And I've been in therapy for almost two years now. I don't have sessions as often as it would probably be better for me though (I have them twice a month). But so does almost everyone else. And just like what Catechumen said, lots of people who also need it so badly and even more than me can't afford it at all so I'm very lucky so far.


Good luck moving forward with your therapy! It can be REALLY hard trusting a therapist and it can take a lot of time and work but it sounds like you are getting somewhere. I think just sitting and venting can get stale pretty quick. I think to date the best session I had was when my therapist asked me how I thought the session went and I replied "A complete waste of time" I apologised for saying it as I avoid conflict but it broke me out of the pattern that I was in and challenged things a little.

But in all honesty, last session was a couple of days ago and I had notes in my pocket but I didn't get them out. Old habits are hard to break.
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I think it doesn’t hurt. Except for maybe your wallet 😝

In my case I think it if nothing else it guided me down the right track. But you’ve gotta be willing to do what it is to get to the bottom of what may be bothering you

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I never find therapist not to be helpful unless you pay large amounts for their services. And it seems they all generally tell you the same thing.

How can someone afford to pay 70, 100, or up to 150 dollars per session for 1 hour. Times that 10 and you're dedicating 700, 1000, or 1500 for about 10 sessions, which is equivalent to only 10 hours. I dont get how people afford therapy, to get better. It takes time, like months to improve. But paying that much is just too much.

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Hello Sunflower2011,

It indeed is insane how expensive therapy is in a lot of countries. And I agree, some therapists do tend to engage in unethical practices and just want money in exchange for minimum effort put. But not everyone is like that.

One practical solution is to opt for online therapy. There are a lot of therapists across the world who are very good, certified and accredited by Institutes in the States and charge much less, like 40-50$ per session (because their countries are not that expensive to begin with). If you don't believe me about not all therapist being like that, you can just message me privately and I'll give you a Free therapy session.

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I guess I should add to my last post therapy did if nothing else help me better verbalize the things that bother/bothered me

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Meh. Most of the change that happened with me was dumb luck, having met people that changed me or randomly having the courage to do something else. I can't help but feel that therapy was meant for extraverted lemmings, with all due respect. I mean if therapy works for you, great, but for me personally it was a blatant waste of time.
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Yes, the therapist I saw just gave me information I can find online or in a self-help book.

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I never find therapist not to be helpful unless you pay large amounts for their services. And it seems they all generally tell you the same thing.

How can someone afford to pay 70, 100, or up to 150 dollars per session for 1 hour. Times that 10 and you're dedicating 700, 1000, or 1500 for about 10 sessions, which is equivalent to only 10 hours. I dont get how people afford therapy, to get better. It takes time, like months to improve. But paying that much is just too much.

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Isn't your insurance suppose to cover therapy sessions?
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My insurance does cover it...I pay a small co-pay for each visit. And it is worth it. My therapist is really the only one I can vent to (have no friends) and is willing to listen to my ramblings (especially about work). He is also patient with me as I am struggling with the things he has asked me to work on. I am not at the point yet where I want to take meds and the place I am going to does not push them on you like some other places I have gone in the past and I do appreciate that.
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Never been to a therapist in my life and it will continue to stay that way.

Currently uninsured at the moment anyway.
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It can be but not for me right now. I go to this place where it's trainees I do sessions with. It's a cheap price and most of the people I got are really genuinely sweet and actually care. I did get this guy who seemed like a robot and asked me the same questions. I asked for someone else and the change worked out well. It's nice to have deep conversations with someone and have them point out thought patterns and false beliefs. I take advantage of the tools discussed and work to take action on my weekly assignments. It's possible to learn and do this stuff on your own but I prefer what I'm doing. Do what works for you.
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I wouldn’t say therapy is a rip off.
I think it depends on the therapist, some are great and some are just awful. I remember I had one when I was younger and her approach was a lot to be desired to say the least.
How ever, I found one when I was older and she was really good!
Sadly I had to stop seeing her due to cost as my wedding was coming up lol.
It’s always a good idea to have a good look around before you decide on a therapist though and what training it is they have to find the person that will be able to counsel you best.
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