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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old 06-19-2019, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
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Do you believe genetics or environment is the main cause of our troubles?


Do you believe genetics or environment is the main cause of our troubles?
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Environment. Mainly self induced through partying through my mid teens up until mid 20s. When I was a child I lived in a hostile environment, arguing, fighting etc. And I was mainly left to live in my room and play video games. Looking out the window, wishing I was out playing but felt too uncomfortable to go out with my friends because I was so stressed. It sounds pretty textbook but I think my environment has shaped me into the person I am today. Lots of random goings on, having to deal with things that come up suddenly leaving you less time to prepare for. I can be avoidant too. Something I dealt with for quite a few years.. Idk. Stuff.

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I'd say mostly genetics, a predisposition to certain traits,
but if others would help the person from early on to fit in or feel welcome I think everyone would be fine,
but that mostly never happens in real life, anyone a bit different from the group is usually beat down from a young age & it can leave a lasting impression, that's where the environment bit comes in, it's usually both I'd say.






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Environment and genetics.
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I have to go with a third option: me. Genetics predisposed me to be shy, environment didn't socialize me as much as it could've. But I'm the one who chickened out of all the things I needed to do to develop myself, not because I couldn't do them but simply because they were hard and it was easier not to. I'm the one who turned shyness into social anxiety instead of growing out of it like most do, and I'm the one still not making the leaps I need to for fear of falling.

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My genetics made me the kind of person that culture likes to put through a meat grinder. So, both.

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I have to go with a third option: me. Genetics predisposed me to be shy, environment didn't socialize me as much as it could've. But I'm the one who chickened out of all the things I needed to do to develop myself, not because I couldn't do them but simply because they were hard and it was easier not to. I'm the one who turned shyness into social anxiety instead of growing out of it like most do, and I'm the one still not making the leaps I need to for fear of falling.
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I say both.

My parents hold tendencies that would make one more likely to lean introverted and they're also kind of very individualistic.

That in itself only goes so far, however, as they are both functioning adults. My mother is the most sociable/extroverted of the family, then my sisters, and then my father maybe.

I don't think what they showed me was the cause alone, however. I had a pretty rough time adjusting to moving around a lot as a kid. That, along with my parents being busy, led me into isolation.

My parents did some of the work but the outside definitely also did a lot more of it just as well.

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I have to go with a third option: me. Genetics predisposed me to be shy, environment didn't socialize me as much as it could've.
Agree with your 3rd option. Its the case for me. People like to take a position on one extreme or the other on this issue. Its either genetic's or its environment people say but its both.. There are a lot of factors and for myself anyway they both played a role. I was naturally a shy and anxious person and didn't grow up in the best environment as well. If I had better parents with the same genetics who knows how I would have turned out. Or if my genetics were better but the environment was horrible who knows how it would have turned out either. Lot of things go into making us who we are
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But I'm the one who chickened out of all the things I needed to do to develop myself, not because I couldn't do them but simply because they were hard and it was easier not to. and I'm the one still not making the leaps I need to for fear of falling.
....Well there's that too, it was definitely easier to not be around people my age when I was younger because of the genetics/environment combo & it just became a way of life to not be around people where possible, but anyone who fought a chicken would know they're really brave when they need to be, we gotta be like the chicken






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Environment, except in the most severe psychological disturbances. Why? Because if you're even partially unable to fit in or function normally, the situation is likely to snowball. If you had trouble fitting in as a child, you may have missed out on socialization, which makes it even harder in puberty, which leaves you at a competitive disadvantage in adulthood, which can lead to chronic unemployment, which is self-perpetuating and takes its own toll on top of everything else.
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Both. More on the environmental side. The abuse and manipulation was really bad.

It took getting away from most of my family in order for me to fully accept the reality of how evil and sick they are.
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I'm the living proof of why environment is superior to genetics. Environment will make you or break you.
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environment. majority of 'problems' can be overcome by working on them.

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