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To me, at least, the words "girl" or "boy" imply some level of youth; I cannot see myself calling a 60 year old woman a "girl". From this, it follows that "girlfriend" and "boyfriend" also sound awkward when applied to people of certain age.

I've never said that the word "partner" was "great"; I just prefer to use it because it is concise, descriptive, and its meaning is typically clear from the context. I fail to see what political correctness has to do with it; to me it is just a matter of language efficiency. I have no problem talking about a "boyfriend" or a "girlfriend" when I know enough about the situation to be able to narrow the language down so, but when speaking in generals, I typically do not.

I am not sure why you are so sensitive about this word. You talk about not being politically correct, yet at the same time you are the one picking on the language some use in this thread. I do not quite understand the logic here. I, for one, have no problem with your choice of words. If you choose to talk about my hypothetical boyfriend, even though I'm fairly straight, I will be totally fine with it: again, a lot of the discussion in this thread is based on hypotheticals, so it's not like a wrong assumption about someone is going to break the argument.
First of all, my real problem with the word is that it annoys me. It is bizarre that I am getting this much backlash just for simply being put off by a word. I personally don't see anything out of the ordinary about two 60 year old's calling each other boyfriend or girlfriend. It is a common word that has been used for God knows how long. You don't reach age 50 or 60 and no longer need to use the term "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." a 70 year old can use the word, if you do or don't feel it is appropriate at that age. If 2 people of any age sex or sexual preference are together romantically they are boyfriend and girlfriend, until they get married, at which point they cannot refer to themselves that way. Partner is not a more appropriate term because it can mean different things.

The word partner is a newer politically correct term. It simply did not exist until recent years. If 2 people play a board game, I can see someone saying, "i need a partner." If you are playing pickup basketball and need another person, i can understand saying, "I need a partner."

Other than a nurse trying not to offend someone by using the term in a doctor's office, it is completely a politically correct term used to not offend people. If no one used the word in that context 40 years ago, it can't be an old common expression. It is an artificial word that again, was not used until recent years.

I am not sensitive about the word, i am sensitive about people attacking and criticizing my annoyance with the word. I am allowed to be annoyed with the word, the same way I am annoyed with the word "mate"

I never "talked about your hypothetical boyfriend" so don't put words in my mouth. I could care less if you are gay or straight, i was making a point about the use of "girlfriend and boyfriend" as opposed to "partner"

Why dont you get off my case, i dont know what you are saying about me not being politically correct. I didn't pick apart the language anyone used. That poster made a comment using a similar word defending the stupid word "partner" and used a similar word "participant" and was picking me apart so I gave it back to them. And don't ever say I implied you had a hypothetical boyfriend, now you are just being paranoid
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A society of slaves to women may sound much more attractive from the female perspective though, than it would be in reality. I recommend reading the Dark Elf trilogy by Salvadore, where the matriarchal Drow society is depicted. Suffice to say, men are not the only ones suffering there.

Humor, on the other hand, is quite encouraged there, so I'll let this pass!
May have come across those books advertised before but haven't read them. Dark elves are usually matriarchal so I suppose that makes sense. I didn't say anything about a matriarchy though.

I wasn't joking actually.
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First of all, my real problem with the word is that it annoys me. It is bizarre that I am getting this much backlash just for simply being put off by a word. I personally don't see anything out of the ordinary about two 60 year old's calling each other boyfriend or girlfriend. It is a common word that has been used for God knows how long. You don't reach age 50 or 60 and no longer need to use the term "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." a 70 year old can use the word, if you do or don't feel it is appropriate at that age. If 2 people of any age sex or sexual preference are together romantically they are boyfriend and girlfriend, until they get married, at which point they cannot refer to themselves that way. Partner is not a more appropriate term because it can mean different things.

The word partner is a newer politically correct term. It simply did not exist until recent years. If 2 people play a board game, I can see someone saying, "i need a partner." If you are playing pickup basketball and need another person, i can understand saying, "I need a partner."

Other than a nurse trying not to offend someone by using the term in a doctor's office, it is completely a politically correct term used to not offend people. If no one used the word in that context 40 years ago, it can't be an old common expression. It is an artificial word that again, was not used until recent years.

I am not sensitive about the word, i am sensitive about people attacking and criticizing my annoyance with the word. I am allowed to be annoyed with the word, the same way I am annoyed with the word "mate"

I never "talked about your hypothetical boyfriend" so don't put words in my mouth. I could care less if you are gay or straight, i was making a point about the use of "girlfriend and boyfriend" as opposed to "partner"

Why dont you get off my case, i dont know what you are saying about me not being politically correct. I didn't pick apart the language anyone used. That poster made a comment using a similar word defending the stupid word "partner" and used a similar word "participant" and was picking me apart so I gave it back to them. And don't ever say I implied you had a hypothetical boyfriend, now you are just being paranoid
Lol, dude, relax. I was talking about the usage of the world in various scenarios, I never accused you of making assumptions about me. Not sure why you are so fired up by people pointing out that "partner" is a reasonable word.
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Wait you guys are mean. Way too much overreacting going on on this thread In my opinion.
I just need to know if I'm allowed to use the word 'partner' or will I be torture and burn in hell for it? Calm down folks.
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Wait you guys are mean. Way too much overreacting going on on this thread In my opinion.
I just need to know if I'm allowed to use the word 'partner' or will I be torture and burn in hell for it? Calm down folks.
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You are free to use the word "partner" however much you wish...
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No guarantees? Hmm, I think I'll play it safe and not use the 'P' word anymore.
Seriously tho, some of these threads get way out of hand over nothing.
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Well this has gotten more surreal. Not sure how that's possible.

Essentially I've been pissed off a lot over the last couple of days and your post was basically easy bait for me to vent at you since you came in with your 'anti PC' bs that I see from a lot of people now. They think they're better than everyone and there's this mad scrabble to be the least offended by everything and signal how unoffended you are, it's just another stupid status game.

And no I don't consider this a fight. I'm literally sitting here like this right now

You quoted me 10 times and then went to my blog lol to try and find stuff but you see. I don't care anymore. About anything. Have fun dude.

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I was really hoping to offend you earlier but now that I got my butt whipped, I'm just tired and want to be left alone. :/
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Guys, guys, guys! Break!

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If it's someone you know in real life and have to interact with regularly it can get awkward. So I try to put a stop to that if it starts up.
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I always thought the word "partner" was okay? I use it all the time.
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I guess I'm waiting for the time when there is sufficiently advanced AI that can at least be a non-judgemental talking partner that could possibly help coach and improve social skills. Better yet something like a "Joi" as seen in "Blade Runner 2049". But no, I wouldn't want to go as far to have an imaginary partner in my head whether voluntarily or forced by a shizoid-affective disorder.
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Well this has gotten more surreal. Not sure how that's possible.

Essentially I've been pissed off a lot over the last couple of days and your post was basically easy bait for me to vent at you since you came in with your 'anti PC' bs that I see from a lot of people now. They think they're better than everyone and there's this mad scrabble to be the least offended by everything and signal how unoffended you are, it's just another stupid status game.

And no I don't consider this a fight. I'm literally sitting here like this right now

You quoted me 10 times and then went to my blog lol to try and find stuff but you see. I don't care anymore. About anything. Have fun dude.
I don't know how it has gotten surreal, this isn't a Twin Peaks episode, it is an argument on a message board. What I am doing is not spewing "anti-PC" bs, I was simply annoyed by certain words and topics. Why it has caused such an uproar is beyond me. I am not one of many people spewing "anti-PC bs," I am a unique person, first of all. I don't think I am better than anyone, I have a ton of insecurities, so please don't suggest that I am arrogant. I was annoyed by your comment where you hoped I was a sex slave for men, and then when you made homophobic comments towards me. I am not sure how you were not banned for those comments, but i guess with 67,000 posts you deservedly have some type of seniority on the site.

I am not sure how me trying to seem "unoffended" is even a topic of conversation or even enters your mind. I went to 4 yankees baseball games last week, the final round of US open golf, gone to many movies and working 50 hour weeks on my business. I think you just have way too much time on your hands, if you ask me, and i am not even saying that to fight you. I spent about 7 years playing video games indoors about 20 years ago, so i know what it is like to be stuck indoors. You can wish me to be a sex slave for men all you want, and try to combat me with your fancy terminology all you want, but seriously dude, you need to like at least go to the park or leave your house or apartment. And i spent about 4 minutes researching your posts, so i have a million better things to do with my time than analyze your posts.

And I am not looking to play some "status game"

I think personally you do absolutely care, if you didn't care you wouldn't have to say it. Yea I posted 10 comments but that was after you wished i had become a sex slave for men, and then made homophobic comments. I am just confused why you would stoop to that level, and i have no idea how you were not banned for those comments. I barely spend any time on this site, with all respect to the site. If you really are popular on the site and help people, I guess you don't deserve to be banned. I personally think based on what you typed to me you should have been banned but not up to me to decide.

And I did not go to your blog, I saw a preview of a few things on your blog, and i did not even open your blog or click on it.
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A society of slaves to women may sound much more attractive from the female perspective though, than it would be in reality. I recommend reading the Dark Elf trilogy by Salvadore, where the matriarchal Drow society is depicted. Suffice to say, men are not the only ones suffering there.

Humor, on the other hand, is quite encouraged there, so I'll let this pass!
First of all, I don't think any society for slaves for men or women is a fun topic of conversation, so your comment sounds kinda twisted. The bottom line is, he wished i was a sex slave for men, so i really don't appreciate you casually ignoring that fact and then adding references to Sci-fi books with fantasy characters involved. Sounds like you are just trying to throw fuel on the fire of his homophobic comments he hurled at me. Good job of disguising your bullying tactics.

I think maybe 3 people in the world got your references regarding the "Dark Elf Trilogy" and the "Drow society," but all that is really is a way to bully me, because he said such horrible things to me in the post you quoted
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No guarantees? Hmm, I think I'll play it safe and not use the 'P' word anymore.
Seriously tho, some of these threads get way out of hand over nothing.
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i had no problem discussing anything. I was ANNOYED by the word partner, not offended by it.

The only reason it got out of hand was "persepherone" wished i was a sex slave for men and made homophobic comments towards me.

I could debate the ridiculous word "partner" and "mate" all day long but he crossed the line
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I guess I'm waiting for the time when there is sufficiently advanced AI that can at least be a non-judgemental talking partner that could possibly help coach and improve social skills. Better yet something like a "Joi" as seen in "Blade Runner 2049". But no, I wouldn't want to go as far to have an imaginary partner in my head whether voluntarily or forced by a shizoid-affective disorder.
Wow I guess you love the word "partner" so much you are also crow-barring it into your posts, everyone stop ganging up on me! hehe
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Wait you guys are mean. Way too much overreacting going on on this thread In my opinion.
I just need to know if I'm allowed to use the word 'partner' or will I be torture and burn in hell for it? Calm down folks.
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I have no problem with anyone using the word partner, but I am also allowed to be annoyed by the word. It is a free country, i can be annoyed by any words i want and
take it to the supreme court if i want and ask "partner" to be removed from the dictionary.

I will allow you to use the word partner, thanks for the sarcasm! I was calm until persepherone wished I was a sex slave for men and made homophobic comments towards me. Do you condone that type of language and insults? Or are you just happy to have sarcastic biting hypothetical conversations?
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