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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-06-2019, 07:57 AM Thread Starter
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Does anyone else on here hate politics?


Hey guys, so I realize that politics are necessarily. I also realize that participating in politics is necessary whether that is becoming a politician or just simply voting in your local or national election. You dont have to vote if you dont want to. However, I feel like especially in the last few years politics has brought out the worst in people. I have my own political views so I'm sort of biased but I feel no need to hate others who might disagree with me. Your politics is not a full reflection of who you are. I personally beleive there are good Republicans, Democrats, independents,ect. Same thing with religion or race. I am of a particular race and follow a particular religion but if you are not my race or you follow another religion or dont follow one at all that is fine. I guess I'm naive to think that everyone should just accept each other for who they are but I cant help it. My Myers briggs personality type is infp (the mediator). I dont really watch or read the news because it makes me depressed. Although if you are fascinated by the news and it does not make you sad, then that is perfectly ok. 😉
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@Infinitegalaxycat , would you feel the same way if you were living in Germany in the 1930s?

If more people cared, the world would be a much better place.

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@Infinitegalaxycat , would you feel the same way if you were living in Germany in the 1930s?

If more people cared, the world would be a much better place. <a href="http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/images/smilies/orangeyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="" >:-)</a>
Hey, good point. Like I said before though, politics is VERY NECESSARY. I guess I just wish that people could work together and be a little bit nicer about it. I feel that if we could do that then things would get done more easily, and the world will be a better place.....&#x1f601;
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@Infinitegalaxycat , would you feel the same way if you were living in Germany in the 1930s?
People hating others for their politics is part of what lead to 1930s Germany. Nazi Germany forbade belonging to other parties; everyone had to be in the same party and zero tolerance was shown for anyone who wanted to join or found a different party.
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I hate extreme party loyalty, and I get sick of the simple-minded narratives people buy into on daily basis from sources that abuse data by manipulating it to seem as though it only supports one narrative, one theory. I also get sick of bullcrap, clearly fake political personas and public images that politicians use to manipulate people.

Politics are inescapable, though they can be so divisive and polarizing. Humans aren't the smartest bunch when it comes to cooperation between different minded individuals and communities. It's hard though. All of us make presumptions about what's true on a daily basis and are constantly looking for ways to support our own theories and narratives even if it doesn't quite represent reality. I just wish more people would become more self-aware of it. I genuinely believe most people's opinions are formed out of some sort of confirmation bias because we all want to have a moment where we see something that we feel is true and say "YES! THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I SEE IT!" or "This event can mean only one thing:
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The problem is, one side has a different set of facts. They called them "alternative facts" on TV. That's totally crazy. They also believe that their side is above the law.

We can't even agree on facts, so there's no chance whatsoever that we can have a civil discussion about policy.

And we have a lot of people who base their opinions on alternative facts, purely out of loyalty to their party.

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I admit, I'm a bit apathetic. People are going to treat me like **** no matter who's in power. So I just try to survive day-by-day. The news triggers my OCD, and I can't remember anyone's name anyway, so trying to follow politics is an exercise in futility for me.

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I hate how politics have shifted from friendly debates to outright hostility towards anyone with even the slightest inclination away from ones preferred political affiliation.
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One party's existence depends on people being misinformed or uninformed. And they often win, which says a lot about our country.

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I'm interested in it to a point - I listen to a lot of current affairs and news. But the political programs usually bore me to death. It all gets a bit silly sometimes.
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I like to contemplate the disillusionment, repression, and sexuality, of various political radicals who usually fall on the schizo-spectrum somewhere. Also anything 'Satanic.' But on a superficial level, because my post-modern ADHD brain doesn't have the attention span for depth. If you mean 'bla bla Trump' mainstream politics then no, incredibly boring usually unless I can find a way to autistically incorporate him in some mind wandering usually via people constantly comparing him to Hitler lol.. But I'm still not interested in him.


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I wouldn't say I hate politics but rather the way that we consume it. Everywhere you turn, someone is trying to pump you full of fear and outrage, and it's lead to a really toxic and unproductive culture that brings out the worst traits in people.
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I think a lot of people here don't have the energy to keep up with all the scandals. It can be a bit overwhelming and depressing. And time consuming--especially when you're trying to get a better life. Who has time to keep up?

Personally, I've given up all hope for a better life, so I read the news from several sources every day. I'm always hoping that something will lead to world annihilation, so that's my motivation.

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Firstly, you are very brave for posting this. I agree that politics tends to bring out the worst in people.

Secondly, I don't really have an affinity for politics either way 'cause it's just a bunch of people lying, acting, and then debating on things they solely have control over (or don't)—at least, for the people directly involved.

I detested listening to my classmates in university talk about politics like they were geniuses or something. I found it even more ludicrous when I found out you can major in that stuff.

It just turns into a spectacle where one party decides to outdo the other—and all to win an argument.

I don't agree with this stuff not reflecting who you are, however. It very much paints a pretty clear picture of who you are (when enough is said). Granted, we may not know exactly why someone believes what they do—which may or may not give us some leeway in understanding them (which I believe is what you were getting at). Do sides tend to go overboard in how they treat each other? Yes, they very much do. I think we can have our differences but the appropriate way to handle disputes is to simply discuss it in a mutually respectful manner. Problem is politics usually gets very touchy and people then start to get emotional (which can be good).

I remember reading an article once where an interview was done on a couple where one was religious and the other wasn't. They were pretty much opposite in beliefs but they had managed to stay married for a long time. It's those kind of things that makes me think the same can be done for everything else.

Perhaps I am also a bit too naive/optimistic but I earnestly feel folks could get along if they wanted to. Of course, "getting along" can mean very different things for different people.

I don't hold anything against people of faith or those who stick to a particular political faction but just knowing what a certain person believes gives me an idea of what else they may believe in. Everyone pretty much does that and I find it normal. It's acting on those assumptions that lands you in trouble.

I'm just glad we can get parodies for this kind of stuff.

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Generally speaking, politics are the symptom and people are the disease. You can't get rid of either one of them so you might as well do your best to avoid both.

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I enjoy thinking about politics/society/controversial subjects and discussing them with the right people. Unfortunately, people tend to get butthurt pretty easily. Also, most people aren't even informed (forgivable), nor do they TRY to be informed (unforgivable) with what they're talking about.

I have yet to see a forum where people have respectful and reasoned debates about issues. It's usually just name-calling.

At the end of the day, a debate is a quest for a conclusion. It should be an experience where one is open to learning - even if it means abandoning their original ideology.

I don't think people enter the arena with that goal in mind, though. They usually just want to rave and rant.

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Hey guys, so I realize that politics are necessarily. I also realize that participating in politics is necessary whether that is becoming a politician or just simply voting in your local or national election. You dont have to vote if you dont want to. However, I feel like especially in the last few years politics has brought out the worst in people. I have my own political views so I'm sort of biased but I feel no need to hate others who might disagree with me. Your politics is not a full reflection of who you are. I personally beleive there are good Republicans, Democrats, independents,ect. Same thing with religion or race. I am of a particular race and follow a particular religion but if you are not my race or you follow another religion or dont follow one at all that is fine. I guess I'm naive to think that everyone should just accept each other for who they are but I cant help it. My Myers briggs personality type is infp (the mediator). I dont really watch or read the news because it makes me depressed. Although if you are fascinated by the news and it does not make you sad, then that is perfectly ok. &#x1f609;
Starting to hate them, yes. Newsflash to many people: snark, crying or yelling are not arguments.
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I don't care. It falls under the category of "things I can't do anything about". I also find it boring as ****, so there is that.

I have been trying to explain to H for months now why "I am not a feminist" despite fundamentally thinking men and women have equal rights, blah. Because it's a social identity. Accepting a social identity compromises you. It creates an in-out group and all of those ridiculously well established biases will totally **** up your thinking. She stated this was "semantics" until I pointed out all of the research on social identity.

The same goes for politics. People literally self identify as a group (right or left). Which is absurd, as it basically pigeonholes you into in and outgroup thinking. Honestly, politics is like being a spectator in a football match, it creates conflict, and you have literally less control over what happens (in a football match the players might at least hear you shout something).

Politics is about as important as football, and football is just stupid.

Enough about me, lets talk about you, what do you think about me?
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