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Strikes, protests, and civil disobedience.


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A lot of white-collar tech protests lately, a climate strike September 20th, tomorrow.


"On Monday, Facebook workers created a Twitter page called “Facebook Employees for Climate Action” declaring their intention to strike on September 20. Google Workers for Action on Climate Change announced in a tweet on Saturday that at least 400 of company’s employees will join the marches. Amazon and Google workers are demanding that the companies end contracts with oil and gas companies."

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Almost 50,000 autoworkers on strike, damn!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-...ay-2019-09-16/

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I think if social media doesn't exist and most of the striking tech workers' salaries aren't that high, they will not have gave a crap about the causes they are protesting. I think most of these protestors are really doing it just to market themselves on social media. And if they stand out enough, they figure they might get better opportunities from people who see them via social media. Likely they probably don't fully know the cause they are "protesting" against.

The GM and autoworkers, I do think their protests are definitely valid. Since it's for their own and their families well being. And we all know the U.S healthcare and labor system is crooked.

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Chicago Teachers Union on strike. 3rd time in the last 10 years.

https://abc7chicago.com/education/ct...g-for/5592620/
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I think if social media doesn't exist and most of the striking tech workers' salaries aren't that high, they will not have gave a crap about the causes they are protesting. I think most of these protestors are really doing it just to market themselves on social media. And if they stand out enough, they figure they might get better opportunities from people who see them via social media. Likely they probably don't fully know the cause they are "protesting" against.

The GM and autoworkers, I do think their protests are definitely valid. Since it's for their own and their families well being. And we all know the U.S healthcare and labor system is crooked.
That's what Im saying man !....The GM autoworkers protests makes sense...at least they have objectives.

But the "climate change" tech protests WTF is that ?
I understand the children/teenagers are impressionable and will follow trends even if they have no idea of the practical applications...but I expected grown adults to have more sense than this.

You cannot "protest for climate change" ....its too abstract...its just a nonsense non-sequetor excuse to lower productivity ! What do they seriously expect to gain from the protest ? They have no purpose, no goal, no directive.

1) You can protest for your employer to use more energy efficient, cars.
2) You can protest for your employer to use a better filtration or garbage disposal system.
3) You can protest for your employer to add solar panels to their infrastructure, etc...

You can protest for any number of specific goals for climate resilience...but you cannot just "protest for climate change"
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If Microsoft wants to impress me, they can stop bullying their customers for starters. I don't have a horse in the smartphone race. I couldn't care less about them and wish every smartphone owner on the planet would smash the stupid things with hammers. OK, maybe my feelings on them are not that extreme. I'm just not a fan of them.

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If Microsoft wants to impress me, they can stop bullying their customers for starters. I don't have a horse in the smartphone race. I couldn't care less about them and wish every smartphone owner on the planet would smash the stupid things with hammers. OK, maybe my feelings on them are not that extreme. I'm just not a fan of them.
How are they bullying their customers?

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That's what Im saying man !....The GM autoworkers protests makes sense...at least they have objectives.

But the "climate change" tech protests WTF is that ?
I understand the children/teenagers are impressionable and will follow trends even if they have no idea of the practical applications...but I expected grown adults to have more sense than this.

You cannot "protest for climate change" ....its too abstract...its just a nonsense non-sequetor excuse to lower productivity ! What do they seriously expect to gain from the protest ? They have no purpose, no goal, no directive.

1) You can protest for your employer to use more energy efficient, cars.
2) You can protest for your employer to use a better filtration or garbage disposal system.
3) You can protest for your employer to add solar panels to their infrastructure, etc...

You can protest for any number of specific goals[/B] for climate resilience...but you cannot just "[B]protest for climate change"
I agree, I think the one positive by-product tho is spreading awareness but yeah it's hard to call it a strike when it's one day and none of them were really risking anything.
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Beautiful. NYC protesting police brutality and subway fees. Being poor shouldn't keep you from accessing public transit, especially in such a large city.

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Riots in Chile.



Neoliberalism running it's course, when you privatize everything including basic human necessities then the divide between the 'haves' and 'have nots' will naturally widen. After a number of decades have passed and you have a growing number of millionaires/billionaires but the working class hasn't been given any relief to the point that they feel they've been forgotten they'll eventually remind the ruling class that they not only exist but they also have some demands.

When watching coverage of riots like this (whether they're riots in the US or some other country) keep in mind that it's the working class against the 'upper class' and the upper class owns the media therefore they dictate the narrative.
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Neoliberalism running it's course, when you privatize everything including basic human necessities then the divide between the 'haves' and 'have nots' will naturally widen. After a number of decades have passed and you have a growing number of millionaires/billionaires but the working class hasn't been given any relief to the point that they feel they've been forgotten they'll eventually remind the ruling class that they not only exist but they also have some demands.

When watching coverage of riots like this (whether they're riots in the US or some other country) keep in mind that it's the working class against the 'upper class' and the upper class owns the media therefore they dictate the narrative.

This isn't the fault of capitalism, it's the fault of communism some how. I'm going to find a picture of world leaders together and form a conspiracy theory hold on.

Naw, too tired. I just wish communists wouldn't blame capitalism every time socialist policies fail so badly in nations like venezuela.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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This isn't the fault of capitalism, it's the fault of communism some how. I'm going to find a picture of world leaders together and form a conspiracy theory hold on.

Naw, too tired. I just wish communists wouldn't blame capitalism every time socialist policies fail so badly in nations like venezuela.
I don't know if you're being satirical or something, Chile is basically the birthplace of neoliberalism, it's a capitalist country. What do you mean conspiracy, protestors have been interviewed the last 2 weeks and the reasons for the riots are clear.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...160029869.html
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I don't know if you're being satirical or something, Chile is basically the birthplace of neoliberalism, it's a capitalist country. What do you mean conspiracy, protestors have been interviewed the last 2 weeks and the reasons for the riots are clear.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...160029869.html
It was more a commentary on your complete lack of self awareness. If protests over the cost of train tickets in Chille is the end result of neoliberalism, cannot I not say the violent rioting in venezuela is the result of socialism?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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It was more a commentary on your complete lack of self awareness. If protests over the cost of train tickets in Chille is the end result of neoliberalism, cannot I not say the violent rioting in venezuela is the result of socialism?
I'm assuming you're asking do I think what's happening in Chile is the likely end result of capitalism? No, there are plenty of capitalist countries that are doing fine and use different non-market methods to keep inequality under control and maintain public wellness, they seem to be working out just fine so far. But if you did mean specifically neoliberalism then yes I do think this is the likely end result of it, Chileans seem to think so to, there are a number of chants during the riots and one of them is "Neoliberalism was born here and it will die here" (I don't think it's actually ending there any time soon though) It was literally an experiment in neoliberalism constructed by libertarian economists headed by Milton Friedman (and most importantly no foreign governments or militaries interfering) They did mass privatization and opened the country up to foreign trade and investments.
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The Yellow Vest movement has been going on for 52 weeks straight in France. God damn.

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General strike planned in Chile, they've been running on the same constitution that was implemented when Pinochet took power in the early 70s, apparently their congress has agreed to write a new one but the protestors are demanding that the public can give their input.



https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...anned-12087286

They should take Cuba's approach, their new constitution that was implemented this year was crafted using probably the most democratic process I've ever seen, public input every single step of the way.
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This seems to be a pretty obvious result for a company that doesn't offer any benefits at all especially in a country where healthcare is often linked to your employer.


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4...e=VICE_twitter
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