Originally Posted by WillYouStopDave
Generally, there is not a political party that does not actually want big government (although some of them pay lip service to limited government when it suits them to brown nose for their key constituencies). They just want it in different flavors. Which doesn't stop the flavor from changing in the next election cycle and you suddenly find yourself drinking something you hate.
Of course once the public concedes that "mental illness" actually means "you no longer have any rights" (And let's face it. That's it in a nutshell, no pun) they can gradually move the goalposts and broaden the definition of "mental illness" at their leisure. And eventually it can mean whatever they want it to mean. People who are not "mentally ill" in the traditional sense of the word will not (and are meant not to) feel like this is a threat to them. And they won't....until it is. And then they will wonder when they went crazy. At any rate, whenever it becomes what it will become, no one will know who to blame or when it happened or why. Baby steps. Given enough of them, probably no one will even be asking what went wrong.
The current state of things is something most people probably could not have imagined more than 20 years ago. Not that long.
EDIT - Also, I don't think many people have been talking much about the specific issue I linked to in the article. Oh plenty of people have been talking about mass shootings for ages but don't blame them when their hysteria causes things like this. How could they have possibly known the government wants more power?
Eh I think they sort of did imagine things, maybe not 100% but I mean people have been writing about dystopias for half a century or more.
Also the definition of mental illness is pretty much based on culture/politics a lot of the time yeah. That's why video game addiction specifically is in the dsm now, why most atypical sexualities are pathologized, and being attracted to androgyny preferentially is bad™
Well as for the article my point was I don't think anyone is really asking for the solution he's come up with, but most people wanted something to be done about it because nobody wanted the shootings to continue.
Trump knows he can't touch guns because it would alienate his voter base, but he has to seem like he's 'taking this issue seriously' and really this sort of thing is probably what he wants anyway.
When he was running for president he said something like this:
"Well, look. This is so easy to answer. ISIS is recruiting through the Internet. ISIS is using the Internet better than we are using the Internet, and it was our idea," he said. "What I wanted to do is I wanted to get our brilliant people from Silicon Valley and other places and figure out a way that ISIS cannot do what they are doing. You talk freedom of speech, you talk anything you want."
"We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening" in order to "close up" parts of the Internet."
"And then on second, we should be able to penetrate the Internet and find out exactly where ISIS is and everything about ISIS. and we can do that if we use our good people," Trump said. "But we should be using our brilliant people, our most brilliant minds."
Also banned transpeople from the military. So yeah nobody should be surprised about this.
Damn reading the verbatim quotes of Trump or listening to him speak is wild, he sounds so dumb.