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Bernie will win every single Democratic debate this year.


I predict that Bernie will win every single debate, even if he drops out of the race, because at the end of the day every candidate is fighting for his policies that he alone has been talking about for 40 years, everyone else laughed him off until 2016, now they're all of a sudden trying to be "more progressive" than him after stealing his entire platform.

Warren, Kamala, whoever can talk all they want about their progressive policies but their industry donors will have the final say just like every other damn politician that's been elected, I've seen plenty of great campaigners, like Obama, who ran a leftist campaign but governed like a Republican. He was funded by industry donors, and Wall Street literally chose his cabinet and called the shots.

Bernie has the right policies, he has the right donors (the people), and most importantly he's the only one with a backbone to actually pressure the corporations and the million+ volunteers to pressure their representatives.
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They are sll striving to be that 1%, you know, controlling the money and calling the shots.


That way Bernie would live like Maduro......you do know that's what would happen in the long run. Macron is seeing some of that, too.

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They are sll striving to be that 1%, you know, controlling the money and calling the shots.


That way Bernie would live like Maduro......you do know that's what would happen in the long run. Macron is seeing some of that, too.
From what I've seen you say in the past I don't think you understand much about Venezuela or socialism. Also I don't see the connection to Macron.
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From what I've seen you say in the past I don't think you understand much about Venezuela or socialism. Also I don't see the connection to Macron.

Macron is what happens when you get a Burney who gets out of control with his rule stipulations. He's all good in the beginning, but boy would he ever let loose if he got into power. It's all a ploy to get your vote and then take your money and then take your freedom. Venezuela....


Europe is not in good shape either.


Macron is getting burned over his tax additions - just like Burney would.


People can only be taxed so much and then that is it, no more. Hence, the yellow demonstrations and the issues in Venezuela.




.......and I just got a 10c tax per gallon of gas put on me here in Ohio "to build up money for roads".......and then what? Healthcare?

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Macron is what happens when you get a Burney who gets out of control with his rule stipulations. He's all good in the beginning, but boy would he ever let loose if he got into power. It's all a ploy to get your vote and then take your money and then take your freedom. Venezuela....


Europe is not in good shape either.


Macron is getting burned over his tax additions - just like Burney would.


People can only be taxed so much and then that is it, no more. Hence, the yellow demonstrations and the issues in Venezuela.




.......and I just got a 10c tax per gallon of gas put on me here in Ohio "to build up money for roads".......and then what? Healthcare?
Macron, Bernie, and Maduro all have completely different political ideologies, none of which are socialist (Bernie the politician isn't a socialist, none of his policies are socialist, he's wrong when he calls them socialist.)

Your constant comparison of Venezuela and Bernie (and now Macron hahahaha) doesn't make any sense. If you want a closer comparison then look at the countries he models his politics after: Scandinavian countries.

Are you going to tell me that counties like Denmark and Finland are steps away from becoming failed states? Because those are countries that have superior education, healthcare, freedom of the press, etc and they actually have a functioning democracy.
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Macron, Bernie, and Maduro all have completely different political ideologies, none of which are socialist (Bernie the politician isn't a socialist, none of his policies are socialist, he's wrong when he calls them socialist.)

Your constant comparison of Venezuela and Bernie (and now Macron hahahaha) doesn't make any sense. If you want a closer comparison then look at the countries he models his politics after: Scandinavian countries.

Are you going to tell me that counties like Denmark and Finland are steps away from becoming failed states? Because those are countries that have superior education, healthcare, freedom of the press, etc and they actually have a functioning democracy.

Bernie praised Venezuela through Chavez and Maduro! He called them a model for his policies.


For one thing, Denmark and Finland don't have our populations and their health care isn't the same. What do they do for their veterans? they tried to do the living stipend and it failed. What else did they expect? If you hand out enough money to someone, do you expect them to work for a living? Where is the incentive? Who ends up paying for it? Entitlements don't come out of thin air!

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Bernie praised Venezuela through Chavez and Maduro! He called them a model for his policies.


For one thing, Denmark and Finland don't have our populations and their health care isn't the same. What do they do for their veterans? they tried to do the living stipend and it failed. What else did they expect? If you hand out enough money to someone, do you expect them to work for a living? Where is the incentive? Who ends up paying for it? Entitlements don't come out of thin air!
I've heard the same right-wing drivel my whole life and in this day and age with the internet and all the information it provides there's no reason to keep following those stupid claims.

Anyway Chavez did a lot of praiseworthy things, he brought tens of millions of people out of poverty, right now we're sending tens of millions of people into poverty.
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Bernie Sanders? lol what is this 2015
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All the problems that he alone brought up in 2015, are they fixed yet?
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Bernie would make a great president. He is literally the only candidate that, I know of, that actually cares about the people of America. The rest of the lot are simply pretenders to his movement (though even his movement is just an extension of movements that came before), at least until I get to know them better.


Equating Bernie to Venezuela. An extreme, lazy and uneducated talking point that too many people bandy about. It shows how little some people really care to become educated enough to make a relevant argument.

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All the problems that he alone brought up in 2015, are they fixed yet?
I used to support Bernie when I was a liberal and I even donated to his campaign. I also attended one of his rallies in-person, but little did I realize at the time that maybe a third of his speech had to do with explicitly upholding the interests of hispanics/minorities and "undocumented" "immigrants". He would explicitly mention that he was going to fight for hispanics and what he was going to do for them, but not a peep for what he was going to do for white Americans. Of course I naturally brushed this off at the time as such is 2nd-nature when you grow up in a society where mainstream thought preconditions you to be a liberal and hate your own history and people (but only if you are white)... Well, whites have interests too and probably more so now than ever (even if you take the United States completely out of the equation). The White Nationalism that we see rising up today is simply a response/reaction to the somewhat extreme liberalism that came before it, hence the term reactionary (or hence the response to far-left Weimar Germany).

Probably half of what he considered issues I would consider non-issues or pipe dreams. No matter what side you're on, there's no political way forward towards any large/meaningful change. The system is too moderate, too corrupt, and I would not trust or put my faith in a single politician, not even Bernie. Also I think the fact that America is that much more comfortable with electing a communist or former communist than say, a fascist, is a huge misjudgment and mistake. In other words, there is no reason why Americans should feel any more comfortable electing a communist than a fascist (and no Trump is not a fascist, he is left of probably 90% or more of the presidents that came before him).

I do find it kinda funny/ironic though that the guy who Bernie bought his domain name from, or at least the person who held ownership over it previously, was actually anti-Bernie... as I stumbled upon this just now when trying to refresh my memory as to what his exact core issues were in 2015.

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I used to support Bernie when I was a liberal and I even donated to his campaign. I also attended one of his rallies in-person, but little did I realize at the time that maybe a third of his speech had to do with explicitly upholding the interests of hispanics/minorities and "undocumented" "immigrants". He would explicitly mention that he was going to fight for hispanics and what he was going to do for them, but not a peep for what he was going to do for white Americans. Of course I naturally brushed this off at the time as such is 2nd-nature when you grow up in a society where mainstream thought preconditions you to be a liberal and hate your own history and people (but only if you are white)... Well, whites have interests too and probably more so now than ever (even if you take the United States completely out of the equation). The White Nationalism that we see rising up today is simply a response/reaction to the somewhat extreme liberalism that came before it, hence the term reactionary (or hence the response to far-left Weimar Germany).

Probably half of what he considered issues I would consider non-issues or pipe dreams. No matter what side you're on, there's no political way forward towards any large/meaningful change. The system is too moderate, too corrupt, and I would not trust or put my faith in a single politician, not even Bernie. Also I think the fact that America is that much more comfortable with electing a communist or former communist than say, a fascist, is a huge misjudgment and mistake. In other words, there is no reason why Americans should feel any more comfortable electing a communist than a fascist (and no Trump is not a fascist, he is left of probably 90% or more of the presidents that came before him).

I do find it kinda funny/ironic that the guy who Bernie bought his domain name from, or at least the person who held ownership over it previously, was actually anti-Bernie... as I stumbled upon this just now when trying to refresh my memory as to what his exact core issues were in 2015.

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I don't think any of Bernie's main policies help any specific race exclusively, in fact he gets a lot of criticism from liberals for focusing on class instead of identity politics, that's the extent of what liberal democrats seem to be able to do, cry about identity politics.

I don't know if you're implying that Bernie is a communist, he's not, he's not even a socialist, 100% of our elected officials are capitalists, the only differences are most of our politicians want to make our capitalism more unregulated and the few leftist Democrats like Bernie or AOC want to implement some reforms and regulations to certain parts of our capitalism.
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...when you grow up in a society where mainstream thought preconditions you to be a liberal and hate your own history and people (but only if you are white)...

The White Nationalism that we see rising up today is simply a response/reaction to the somewhat extreme liberalism that came before it...
This white-hating liberal society you speak of (not that I would even agree with that description) is a reaction to hundreds of years of white/European domination of the narrative.

'White Nationalism' isn't a new phenomenon, it's been practically default in American politics for centuries.

But, yeah, I do think Bernie is a bit too left for me. I haven't really followed him since 2016.

It's hard to really blame the candidates themselves per se, they are just adjusting their selling points depending on the political climate at the time. Whatever it takes to get votezzzz.

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I don't think any of Bernie's main policies help any specific race exclusively, in fact he gets a lot of criticism from liberals for focusing on class instead of identity politics, that's the extent of what liberal democrats seem to be able to do, cry about identity politics.

I don't know if you're implying that Bernie is a communist, he's not, he's not even a socialist, 100% of our elected officials are capitalists, the only differences are most of our politicians want to make our capitalism more unregulated and the few leftist Democrats like Bernie or AOC want to implement some reforms and regulations to certain parts of our capitalism.
Well that may very well be but I'm just telling you what he was preaching at the rally I went to in California (2016).

While I highly doubt he'd actually try to implement communism which would likely require a large revolution of sorts, I believe he is a communist or hardcore socialist at heart. He also even claims himself to be a "Democratic Socialist" whatever that means, but I interpret that to be just a democratically elected socialist or something similar (but a socialist nonetheless). To me the term is kinda muddied and the semantics unclear when your economy has elements of both however, or when contrasting the term with communism, but maybe that's just because I am not overly well-versed in standard/economic socialism beyond the basics.
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Bernie won again last night!

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This is the second time Tim Ryan got himself owned, Tulsi Gabbard shut him down last time. Tim Ryan isn't going to qualify for the 3rd debates, there's no way he will or Delaney, Hickenlooper, or Bullock.
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Bernie won again last night!

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That was his only line of the night. He came across as a very (frighteningly) angry person during the debate. As I mentioned in another thread, makeup isn't supposed to make a person look so red, so he had to have been fuming the entire night.


I am still waiting for him to say the word "dollar". EVERY time I hear his spiel about minimum wage....a "living wage"....all I hear is "15 bucks an ow-uh" as if he is intentionally avoiding the word "dollars".


To me, that is puzzling.

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