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MAGA hat guy bear sprays crowd on Santa Monica Pier


Crazy scene on Saturday:





The guy got arrested on felony charges and he was already on parole with a criminal background. It was amazing that he did this right in front of the police station.

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As anti-Trump protesters crowded between the marker for Route 66′s westernmost point and the bright blue police station on Santa Monica Pier on Saturday afternoon, the latest violent political attack unfolded steps from the California beach.

About a dozen right-wing demonstrators carrying American flags and wearing shirts supporting President Trump’s reelection bid shoved their way into the leftist protest. The anti-Trump crowd, arms linked, stood their ground and pushed back. Then, a man wearing a backward “Make America Great Again” cap over his blond man-bun pulled a canister of bear repellent out of his jeans and sprayed the Southern California crowd with a mist of peppery aerosol.


Police announced Sunday that they arrested David Nicholas Dempsey, 32, on felony charges for allegedly violating his parole, using a prohibited tear gas weapon and assaulting the crowd with a caustic chemical, KTLA reported.

“It was these f---ing libtards over here, man,” the California man, in a short-sleeve button-down shirt with a marijuana-leaf print, told police in video captured at the protest. “These commies — I didn’t do anything.”

Saturday’s march was planned by an anti-Trump group called Refuse Fascism, which has partnered with the Revolutionary Communist Party and other leftist organizations to plan nonviolent protests since the 2016 election. Refuse Fascism advocates for the removal of the Trump administration, including Vice President Pence and the president’s Cabinet, and launched a pro-impeachment campaign called “Out Now” on Saturday.

The group said dozens of activists gathered on the beach in the early afternoon holding multicolored fabric to spell out “Trump-Pence #OutNow!” Then, the group marched along the boardwalk and onto the Santa Monica Pier to hold a rally.

A small group of Trump supporters followed the leftist protesters to the pier. The groups exchanged insults for about 10 minutes, police told the Los Angeles Times, before shoving one another and screaming obscenities.

“Everything went to crap,” Santa Monica Police Sgt. D. Hicks, who did not give his full name, told the newspaper.

That’s when Dempsey pulled out the bear spray, video shows.

“At least 10 other people got directly pepper sprayed in the face,” a writer for the Revolutionary Communist Party wrote in a post recounting the incident.

Two other pro-Trump supporters grabbed one man from the crowd and held him on the ground, against the sandy wooden planks of the pier. Video shows Dempsey running up to the man and spraying bear repellent into his face as the other men hold him down. Then, Dempsey and another Trump supporter quickly walk away.

Police cornered Dempsey shortly after the incident, detaining him in an alcove in front of the police substation on the pier, just steps from where the attack unfolded.

Dempsey and another protester, who told police he was Dempsey’s brother, said they had been attacked by the Refuse Fascism crowd. Protesters denied that story to police, offering to show them video of Dempsey spraying people after running up to the group from a few feet away.

“Why am I being penned up when you’ve got all these people who attacked us?” Dempsey said to a police officer who questioned him while onlookers recorded the conversation. When an officer moved to place Dempsey in handcuffs, he complained, “Why do you have to put me in handcuffs?” and again blamed the attack on “commies.”

In its post recounting the incident, the Revolutionary Communist Party said that several people were hurt as people scrambled out of the way of the fiery spray and that one protester may have broken her arm in the chaos. Police said no protesters suffered severe injuries, although some were treated for exposure to the bear spray.

A Facebook account that appears to belong to Dempsey regularly insults liberals and celebrates Trump. Some posts spread conspiracy theories about mass shootings, and two posts from August criticized Trump for statements he made supporting “red flag” laws after 22 people were shot and killed at an El Paso Walmart.

California has seen several violent street attacks and alleged terrorist plots motivated by politics since the 2016 election, as far-right groups have targeted West Coast cities seen as liberal strongholds and left-wing activists have taken to the streets to protest the Trump administration.

Antifascists in black tussled with far-right groups in Berkeley, Calif., in 2017, and vocal opposition led right-wing groups to cancel protests in the San Francisco Bay area. Several hate groups have become increasingly active in the state, targeting leftist activists and holding public demonstrations. In April, the FBI arrested a San Fernando Valley man who planned to bomb a right-wing protest in Long Beach, Calif., as revenge for a massacre in March at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand.

The bear spray attack on Saturday showed the continued danger of extremist political violence, advocates say.

“Saturday’s desperate violence by remnants of Trump’s tattered alt-right coalition is another example of why city leaders and law enforcement need to continue take these attacks on community safety seriously,” Eric Ward, executive director of the Western States Center, a nonprofit that works to counter far-right extremism, said in a statement to The Washington Post. “These individuals must be held responsible for intentionally sowing chaos and violence in communities.”

Dempsey has a “fairly extensive” criminal record, police told the L. A. Times. KTLA reported that the Southern California man had been previously convicted of burglary twice, as well as larceny and conspiracy. Police said he was on parole on Saturday and would have been prohibited from possessing bear repellent or similar tear gas weapons because of his status as a felon.

Police told the Associated Press that a second man may have also attacked the anti-Trump crowd with pepper spray on Saturday. Investigators said they are still analyzing video of the clash to identify the other suspect.

Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office records show that Dempsey is being held in jail without bond. His arraignment is scheduled for Tuesday.

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It's obvious he just went there to start trouble. I'm glad he didn't have a gun with him.

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Let's just be thankful he wasn't carrying a fully loaded milkshake.
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It's obvious he just went there to start trouble. I'm glad he didn't have a gun with him.

It would have been so much worse if it had been a shooting. The police did a good job responding as quickly as they did.

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This happens constantly at protests, although antifa does it more often maybe that's why this one made the news. It's super special.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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This happens constantly at protests, although antifa does it more often maybe that's why this one made the news. It's super special.
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Wait, is the president's own "MAGA" now equal and comparable to the violent far left group Antifa? It is fair to call out the Antifa in this case and refer to them as the equal opposite?

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Wait, is the president's own "MAGA" now equal and comparable to the violent far left group Antifa? It is fair to call out the Antifa in this case and refer to them as the equal opposite?
If they engage in political violence yes I will disavow them. My point is the bias towards this single event in comparison to years of them happening across the country.

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If they engage in political violence yes I will disavow them. My point is the bias towards this single event in comparison to years of them happening across the country.

It might be because the Santa Monica Pier isn't really a place where political activism happens. It's mostly tourists. So this sort of event attracted a lot of attention. Another thing is there a bunch of crazy people on the streets in LA, this guy was just a violent one with a criminal history who decided to create a ruckus. I guess it doesn't really matter if he wore a MAGA hat, also he was wearing a shirt with weed on it. lol. I just thought it was interesting enough to share.

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It might be because the Santa Monica Pier isn't really a place where political activism happens. It's mostly tourists. So this sort of event attracted a lot of attention. Another thing is there a bunch of crazy people on the streets in LA, this guy was just a violent one with a criminal history who decided to create a ruckus. I guess it doesn't really matter if he wore a MAGA hat, also apparently he was wearing a shirt with weed on it. lol. I just thought it was interesting enough to share.
Ah, then it probably wasn't politically motivated at all and the guy wore the hat for the reactions out of people. He made a good choice, it definitely will get reactions out of certain kinds of people.

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Ah, then it probably wasn't politically motivated at all and the guy wore the hat for the reactions out of people. He made a good choice, it definitely will get reactions out of certain kinds of people.
That's true. I never leave without my bear repellent when I go to the beach.

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Backwards maga hat and a pot leaf shirt? Lol
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Let's just be thankful he wasn't carrying a fully loaded milkshake.
lol

I love that it's being called 'milkshaking' like a verb:

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In May, milkshaking became so prevalent that British police forced a McDonald’s to stop selling the drinks near a Farage campaign stop, and the far right started describing it as “political violence.” The tactic finally made its American debut in early June—sort of. The target was Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-4chan), the GOP’s trollish rising star. Gaetz was leaving a town hall in Pensacola, Florida, when someone tossed what was initially believed to be a strawberry milkshake at him. (Reports later clarified it may have been Hawaiian Punch.)
Such British discourse.
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That's true. I never leave without my bear repellent when I go to the beach.
Hey, maybe he likes spicy food? I know my brother never eats out without a million Scoville units on him.
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lol

I love that it's being called 'milkshaking' like a verb:

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Such British discourse.
One phrase I liked is 'Lactose the intolerant'.

Though its fitting, them making vids of them chugging milk is a flex these dumb***es do sometimes, according to them apparently white people handle dairy products better than people of color, I don't know anything about the science of that though, all I know is these chuds don't handle external application of dairy very well and it turns them into little snowflakes.
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One phrase I liked is 'Lactose the intolerant'.

Though its fitting, them making vids of them chugging milk is a flex these dumb***es do sometimes, according to them apparently white people handle dairy products better than people of color, I don't know anything about the science of that though, all I know is that they don't handle external application of dairy very well and it turns them into little snowflakes.
Yeah I think I heard about them doing that lol. Lactose tolerance/intolerance is genetic, and intolerance is more common than tolerance throughout the world.

Bit of a weird flex though, and mostly reminds me of this lol:




edit: Of course when they're so big on biology/genetics they should know that being able to continue drinking milk in adulthood is a neotenous trait. It really seems that actual fascism is pretty much the politicisation of trying to escape feminisation/neotenisation to be a 'real man' so I find that deeply satisfying/hilarious:

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and it makes the strawberry milkshake even better.
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That fascist is wearing a facial cover, but antifa are the ones who wear facial covers, are fascists now the real antifa just like "antifa are the real fascists"? Gosh, now I have no idea who to side with! Why must fascism be so difficult to identify..
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Ah, then it probably wasn't politically motivated at all and the guy wore the hat for the reactions out of people. He made a good choice, it definitely will get reactions out of certain kinds of people.
They were protesting Trump as it said in the caption....it wasn't civil if they were shouting.


The MAGA hat wearing guy they pointed at was not in the frame when the incident started at 1:35. He had walked to the left off camera as the incident began in the center of the screen.

@Musicfan - they weren't being peaceful as labeled, either, but the pepper spray guy was clearly in the wrong. That wasn't self-defense. That was an assault.

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Wait, is the president's own "MAGA" now equal and comparable to the violent far left group Antifa? It is fair to call out the Antifa in this case and refer to them as the equal opposite?
That's what the left has been doing - demonizing the enemy. It started with Hillary called Trump supporters "deplorables" the way Romney said that 47% of the country was tied to handouts. Nice way to bring people together.


No - MAGA hat people are not the same as bandana-mouth-covered people.


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They should have been clearing brush that would have started a fire instead of leaving it and costing more money with forced brownouts.


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