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If music is dying, musicians are killing it. Composers are the ones decomposing it. We are as responsible as anyone--although we'd love not to admit it. We lash out at "The Industry", blaming things like corporate structure for our ****ty music--but we are the ones making it. We open the box they've given us and jump in, wrap ourselves up, and even lick the stamp. Why? Insecurity--the need for acceptance--maybe even money. We're not thinking about our music, just how it looks. One would rather have the warm tongue of a critic licking his ******* than the tongue of his spouse. It gives him a sense of validity and power. He seems to defy gravity.

Maybe it is because he doesn't know what the hell else to do. He sees it coming--but freezes with panic like a deer in the headlights. Don't laugh--I've done it and you probably have too. And it has undoubtedly effected our music. (But have we learned anything from it?) We know that we are mostly a lot of slobbering babies who need constant stroking. We realize also in the moral order of society, we occupy positions similar to the thief, pimp, or peeping tom. We know that even if one has the pride of a bull, it is hard enough just to remain focused in this world. It gives us millions upon millions of images--distractions--all saying the same thing at the same time: DO NOT THINK. If your fantasy and desire givse you migraines, how easy it is to forget them when there is so much to look at.

Our creations die quickly when abandoned like this. Do we realize that we are eating our young? It seems the passion that moves us is accompanied by an incredible urge to squash it. It is as quick as a ****ing reflex--a conditioned response. Is it a sexual problem? A puritanical one? The most intense and convincing music achieves a sexual level of expression, but what we normally feel is frigidity and limpness. It is just too easy for an artist to 'socialize' his desires when life tells him cardboard is OK. You should be ashamed of yourself! What is your ****ing problem? If you don't come out, sooner or later you will die in there. Use chunks of yourself. Bodily fluids. Look left and right. Sift through others' belongings. Borrow. Steal. And try to achieve some sort of pleasure while doing it.

This excitement should increase and intensify when you visualize it being shared by a number of people. Think about it. If it comes from inside you, it is automatically valid--it just may or may not be good. Because if it is not communicating in some way, its pleasure is as short-lived as a quick **** in the back room. It doesn't mean ****. The labor of many composers is to construct elaborate walls of sound--but we often forget to leave a window or door to crawl out of. how can we survive in these clever little rooms? We must eat our creation or we will starve. At this point, we have heard what we wanted to hear--our ears have shut down. We've resigned as slaves to our own gluttony.

But if we have boarded up our learning environment, our only way out is to teach what we know. Will they listen? Why should they? Because they need you as much as you need them. You can save them from being swallowed up by the world--they can save you from being swallowed up by the world. Young and old players should be seeking each other out and using each other. They should develope a healthy exchange of smut--and learn to wear each other's masks. In this kind of environment, incredible things can happen. Music can emerge that is athletic and personal. Music that is riddled with contradictions--impossibilities. And that is the **** that can defy gravity.

-Mike Patton
Mike Patton has been the vocalist and main composer of many bands including Faith No More, Mr Bungle, Tomahawk, Fantomas, Peeping Tom and many more. He's widely considered to be one of the most prominent and talented vocalists in both the rock and avant garde world.

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If music is dying, musicians are killing it. Composers are the ones decomposing it. We are as responsible as anyone--although we'd love not to admit it. We lash out at "The Industry", blaming things like corporate structure for our @#%$ music--but we are the ones making it. We open the box they've given us and jump in, wrap ourselves up, and even lick the stamp. Why? Insecurity--the need for acceptance--maybe even money. We're not thinking about our music, just how it looks. One would rather have the warm tongue of a critic licking his @#%$ than the tongue of his spouse. It gives him a sense of validity and power. He seems to defy gravity.

Maybe it is because he doesn't know what the hell else to do. He sees it coming--but freezes with panic like a deer in the headlights. Don't laugh--I've done it and you probably have too. And it has undoubtedly effected our music. (But have we learned anything from it?) We know that we are mostly a lot of slobbering babies who need constant stroking. We realize also in the moral order of society, we occupy positions similar to the thief, pimp, or peeping tom. We know that even if one has the pride of a bull, it is hard enough just to remain focused in this world. It gives us millions upon millions of images--distractions--all saying the same thing at the same time: DO NOT THINK. If your fantasy and desire givse you migraines, how easy it is to forget them when there is so much to look at.

Our creations die quickly when abandoned like this. Do we realize that we are eating our young? It seems the passion that moves us is accompanied by an incredible urge to squash it. It is as quick as a @#%$ reflex--a conditioned response. Is it a sexual problem? A puritanical one? The most intense and convincing music achieves a sexual level of expression, but what we normally feel is frigidity and limpness. It is just too easy for an artist to 'socialize' his desires when life tells him cardboard is OK. You should be ashamed of yourself! What is your @#%$ problem? If you don't come out, sooner or later you will die in there. Use chunks of yourself. Bodily fluids. Look left and right. Sift through others' belongings. Borrow. Steal. And try to achieve some sort of pleasure while doing it.

This excitement should increase and intensify when you visualize it being shared by a number of people. Think about it. If it comes from inside you, it is automatically valid--it just may or may not be good. Because if it is not communicating in some way, its pleasure is as short-lived as a quick @#%$ in the back room. It doesn't mean @#%$. The labor of many composers is to construct elaborate walls of sound--but we often forget to leave a window or door to crawl out of. how can we survive in these clever little rooms? We must eat our creation or we will starve. At this point, we have heard what we wanted to hear--our ears have shut down. We've resigned as slaves to our own gluttony.

But if we have boarded up our learning environment, our only way out is to teach what we know. Will they listen? Why should they? Because they need you as much as you need them. You can save them from being swallowed up by the world--they can save you from being swallowed up by the world. Young and old players should be seeking each other out and using each other. They should develope a healthy exchange of smut--and learn to wear each other's masks. In this kind of environment, incredible things can happen. Music can emerge that is athletic and personal. Music that is riddled with contradictions--impossibilities. And that is the @#%$ that can defy gravity.

-Mike Patton
Mike Patton has been the vocalist and main composer of many bands including Faith No More, Mr Bungle, Tomahawk, Fantomas, Peeping Tom and many more. He's widely considered to be one of the most prominent and talented vocalists in both the rock and avant garde world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Patton
Meh

I actually preferred the former singer over Mike Patton in The Dillinger Escape Plan. Was he drunk when he said or wrote that?
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I actually preferred the former singer over Mike Patton in The Dillinger Escape Plan. Was he drunk when he said or wrote that?
I dont think he drinks, he's said more than a few times the only drug he's interested in is caffeine.
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When I walk down the stairs and my sister has MTV on, the first thing I notice is the excess angst and frustration in the singing and really generic, dark and doomy instrumentation. For example, 30 Seconds to Mars, I think that's their name. Jared Leto, from My So-Called Life, is the singer. It's such a bland, negative song. Then they'll play that AFI song "Miss Murder", which starts out with the chorus, which is terrible in my opinion. I can't believe my younger sister is just taking all of this stuff in. She is not on her age level because of a rare condition, but she takes in the music videos like water like so many other teenagers. I don't know what to do. She just likes it because it's on TV and they are delivering and selling that to the 13-18 crowd. I can't even begin to explain why the popular music of today sucks so much. And now I have to go so I can make her a mix CD of all MTV and other video channel music... not one band on here isn't on music videos. I friggin hate music videos.
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it's not a very academic essay. He gives no real examples, no analysis of his examples, and no explanation of his main point (which I believe has to do with the business of music).

It's a rant, through and through. more than anything it's an example in itself of the culture of pop music in the US: youth-driven, individualism, lack of soul, struggle to survive within the game of business, immediacy.

This guy just realized he's getting too old for rock n roll--as we know it. and sees the cycle of business creating chaos once again.

it's the monster of capitalism rearing it's ugly head again, but this time I don't know how socialism could be effective in spreading the music either.

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This guy just realized he's getting too old for rock n roll--as we know it. and sees the cycle of business creating chaos once again.
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This was printed in the very last faith no more album, ironically titled
"album of the year". Anyway that was 1998, he's moved on and been in at least 5 or 5 other bands since then.
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perhaps he found a compromise to his dilemma??

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