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Well, this year I REALLY noticed the effects of Global Warming- Climate change. Where I live, in early May, it snowed once and I heard in the US, there was one very hot day and then the next day it snowed! Now that is so scary/freaky.
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Yep, **** is already starting to hit the fan out on the West Coast with all the wildfires which grow in intensity every year. We're feeling pretty comfortable on the East Coast right now but give it 20 years until sea levels start to rise considerably.

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There have been lots of examples for a while now. In the UK it floods in tons of areas so many people's homes and businesses are built in areas that flood. I watched a video of a house in Scotland just collapse into the water during the last big storm earlier in the year:



and some other guy in England was talking about how it was the third time his business got flooded so he was finally going to move. But we have a high population density and it's not always practical a bit of a case of this:


and it's a lot worse for people in developing countries obviously.

Also of course the hellfire/Blade Runner apocalypse happening in the Western US right now.

One thing though people here really need to learn to tie **** down. It's always trampolines. I saw several twitter threads about different trampolines ending up on train tracks or motorways etc.

(I wouldn't be that weirded out by sudden weather changes here though, since in the UK that's normal.)

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Well, this year I REALLY noticed the effects of Global Warming- Climate change. Where I live, in early May, it snowed once and I heard in the US, there was one very hot day and then the next day it snowed! Now that is so scary/freaky.

It can do that in Colorado. My mom use to have family there and it is not uncommon. I seen pictures of people skiing wearing just bathing suits. It snows one day and warms up again and vice versa.



Also, we are in low solar activity which brings less solar energy. That's why a lot of meteorologist are predicting a harsh winter here in the northern us.



I am not denying there is climate change. I seen it where I live. When I moved here 24 years ago. No one had AC units. Then over the years everyone has bought one. The summers have become more warm and humid here and have been lasting longer. When I came here it might have been like three days then it would cool back off. Now the hot times last weeks.

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The weather doesn't seem confused at all. The weather patterns fluctuate at specific times as if someone assigns the time to rain, snow, sunny, windy, and cloudy. Looks like intervals are happening here. Just the human thought patterns change to happy, sad, mad and depress. That joint is inconsistent.

I live in New York City and the weather fluctuate rapidly.

The weather in Florida fluctuate slowly, and the human thought patterns change once in a while. When I was living in Kissimmee Florida the weather and the people wasn't rushed down like NYC.

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Global warming might actually improve our weather for my time at least, the extremes seem to be happening elsewhere, it's children being born now who are really screwed.






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I was reading articles about why , if you somehow managed to get dinosaur DNA to bring back dinosaurs, that it wouldn't be fair on the dinosaurs.

One reason is that our modern climate Is TOO DAMNED COLD for them. They likely wouldn't survive our colder climate .

When the dinos were around, the earth was MUCH hotter than it is today.

Why won't or can't people.just have to accept that the climate of the earth is in constant natural flux, always has been in constant flux, and always will be in constant flux?

Eventually thousands of years from now, we'll be in another ice age. That IS going to happen eventually.

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I was reading articles about why , if you somehow managed to get dinosaur DNA to bring back dinosaurs, that it wouldn't be fair on the dinosaurs.

One reason is that our modern climate Is TOO DAMNED COLD for them. They likely wouldn't survive our colder climate .

When the dinos were around, the earth was MUCH hotter than it is today.

Why won't or can't people.just have to accept that the climate of the earth is in constant natural flux, always has been in constant flux, and always will be in constant flux?

Eventually thousands of years from now, we'll be in another ice age. That IS going to happen eventually.
I don't think anyone is arguing the flux of weather patterns. People are just surprised at the sudden changes occurring to them; patterns of extremity that are unprecedented in their lifetimes. And not just that, these weather patterns are causing a lot of destruction. To get at the solution to this destruction, rational people begin with analysing the cause. If man-made activity is contributing to their own environment's destruction (i.e, homes, food, health), then you try to do something about it. It's not about winning an argument about geological weather patterns, it's figuring out what man-made activities we should modify to prevent more destruction.

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I was reading articles about why , if you somehow managed to get dinosaur DNA to bring back dinosaurs, that it wouldn't be fair on the dinosaurs.

One reason is that our modern climate Is TOO DAMNED COLD for them. They likely wouldn't survive our colder climate .

When the dinos were around, the earth was MUCH hotter than it is today.
Yes, they evolved during relatively slowly changing climatic conditions and so were able to adapt. Unlike animals today that will experience very rapid warming. Many forests won't spread fast enough for the animals that rely on them to survive. Coral reefs, with all of the animals that rely on them are fairly static as well, so they'll die out.

Agriculture mostly exists in relatively thin strips around the world. As the world warms these areas will become too warm for our crops to grow. Increasing carbon dioxide means they will also need to use more water for photosynthesis. Some areas, including in the USA and the Middle East, are already experiencing severe water shortages. So that will also damage our agricultural industry.

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Why won't or can't people.just have to accept that the climate of the earth is in constant natural flux, always has been in constant flux, and always will be in constant flux?
Because the Holocene - the last 10,000 years, in which our civilisation arose - has had a remarkably stable climate. We have also never had to survive the temperatures the dinosaurs experienced. Humans can't survive when temperatures get much above 50°C, but there are areas that are already experiencing such temperatures.

Increased migration due to rising temperatures and increased conflict due to lack of water aren't good things and we don't have to accept them, because we have the ability to halt this catastrophic change.

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Eventually thousands of years from now, we'll be in another ice age. That IS going to happen eventually.
Not if it's prevented by human caused warming.

The Milankovitch cycles, that lead to glaical periods, are currently in a cooling phase, which means global temperatures should be dropping, but they aren't. Why do you think that is?

Ice is receding in a way that it hasn't in previous inter-glacial periods, meaning we are about to exit the current Ice Age prematurely.
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Guys, forget your fancy scientific method garbage that has been responsible for most of the world's advancements, when it comes to climate change we should really be looking primarily to the Republican party in the United States on this issue that effects literally the entire world, there's no way that they're wrong and everyone else in the world is right, it just wouldn't make sense.

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I was reading articles about why , if you somehow managed to get dinosaur DNA to bring back dinosaurs, that it wouldn't be fair on the dinosaurs.

One reason is that our modern climate Is TOO DAMNED COLD for them. They likely wouldn't survive our colder climate .

When the dinos were around, the earth was MUCH hotter than it is today.

Why won't or can't people.just have to accept that the climate of the earth is in constant natural flux, always has been in constant flux, and always will be in constant flux?

Eventually thousands of years from now, we'll be in another ice age. That IS going to happen eventually.
The only thing we have to fight global cooling is....Gwyneth Paltrow candles....lots of them.

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The climate is changing, it always has been changing, it always will be changing. There's nothing that can be done about it. It doesn't always change the way we want it to. It does what it wants to do.
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You can't blame republicans solely for politicizing global warming, democrats are just as guilty for using it as a tool. Real solutions aren't talked about by democratic politicians they spew feel good bull**** about it and try to drum up more protests that don't do any thing other than cause more trash on the ground and carbon in the air. Nuclear power is the only viable solution, especially if we want to move to electric vehicles. Solar and wind power is a fairy tale, the production of turbine and solar panels will wind up causing just as much pollution. Plus solid waste as they have to repair and throw away those things every so many years, and vast destruction of habitat. You could cover the entire Saharra desert in solar panels and you might be able to power las vegas consistently.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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How do I know if it's global warming, or just a hot year or whatever. Is this something we can even notice as individuals? The change in average temperatures and such.

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its science

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Well, this year I REALLY noticed the effects of Global Warming- Climate change. Where I live, in early May, it snowed once and I heard in the US, there was one very hot day and then the next day it snowed! Now that is so scary/freaky.
Denver, Colorado. Actually, wide swings in temperature are common near the mountains, though. It can do the opposite, too - snow and then hours later be warm and dry.

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that's why you should rely on actual science rather than anecdotal evidence.

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This year for the first time ever, a subtropical cyclone made landfall in Portugal. Portugal! (There are two tropical systems that have made landfall in Spain that we know of as well, one in 1842 and Vince in 2005). There was also a cyclone in the Mediterranean, Ianos, that was likely tropical.

As the oceans warm, this kind of thing will become more common. We will see tropical cyclone landfalls in unusual places, and intense landfalls may become more common as well (since more oceanic heat content --> more energy for cyclones to do their thing).

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