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FaceBook bans white supremacist gang, Proud Boys


I'm glad to see these social media platforms banning all these alt-right hate groups that are breaking their rules.

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Facebook is moving to ban the Proud Boys, a far-right men’s organization with ties to white supremacist groups. Business Insider first reported the decision. Facebook confirmed the decision to ban the Proud Boys from Facebook and Instagram to TechCrunch, indicating that the group (and presumably its leader Gavin McInnes) now meet the company’s definition of a hate organization or figure.

Facebook provided the following statement:

“Our team continues to study trends in organized hate and hate speech and works with partners to better understand hate organizations as they evolve. We ban these organizations and individuals from our platforms and also remove all praise and support when we become aware of it. We will continue to review content, Pages, and people that violate our policies, take action against hate speech and hate organizations to help keep our community safe.”

Even compared to other groups on the far right with online origins, the Proud Boys maximize their impact through social networking. The organization, founded by provocateur and Vice founder McInnes, relies on Facebook as its primary recruitment tool. As we reported in August, the Proud Boys operate a surprisingly sophisticated network for getting new members into the fold via many local and regional Facebook groups. All of it relies on Facebook — the Proud Boys homepage even links out to the web of Facebook groups to guide potential recruits toward next steps.

At the time of writing, Facebook’s ban appeared to affect some Proud Boys groups and not others. The profile of Proud Boys founder McInnes appears to still be functional. Facebook’s decision to act against the organization is likely tied to the recent arrest of five Proud Boys members in New York City on charges including assault, criminal possession of a weapon and gang assault.

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I was reading about them recently because of a twitter post about that **** who co-founded Vice. One of those edgy-pretends-to-be-a-libertarian-but-is-actually-just-a-bog-standard-traditionalist types. Quite possibly his entire thing is fabricated for money, there's a lot of that around now. He used to work for Rebel Media and that essentially sums up their platform, only most people there aren't really traditionalists they're just trying to sell you that in a spoon fed way.

Yeah so there group really isn't for me but I'm not sure how it's white supremacist at all. It's mostly just a men's organisation for certain kinds of boys. Wouldn't surprise me if it attracted people who were white nationalists though because of the overlapping interest between 'bring back real men,' and nationalistic politics.


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To preempt the inevitable free speech argument...

1. Facebook isn't a government, its more like a person in economic terms, so if it is a person, then all of us who use Facebook are like pubic lice taking selfies and hanging them atop pubes, and everyone has the right to selectively remove pubic lice and their weird licey hanging pictures from their pubic bowl don't they?

2. You own your home, lets say (yeh, no, but imagine you did) and you invite a bunch of pubic lice into your living room. A group of the lice form and give themselves a name like "Real Manlicess Proud Gang of True BoyLices" and they start spouting off about how your living room sucks for real menlice because your Milo picture is crooked.

Anyway, where was I, yeh, your living room just isn't boylyish manly enough, and femlice are **** and everyone should get into fights for "the cause" (and the cause isn't coherent because its just hating stuff and getting into fights for the cause which is getting into fights for the cause which is getting into fights for the cause..) and hahahahahahahaha a massive fat lice ploughed through a group of leftlice who can't even fight without pepper spray (I mean they literally haven't even been in fights, the ****s) and tattoos, but don't try to throw me out of your house because it would be a breech of free speech you leftist house ****.

I trust that resolves the thread.

 
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I was reading about them recently because of a twitter post about that **** who co-founded Vice. One of those edgy-pretends-to-be-a-libertarian-but-is-actually-just-a-bog-standard-traditionalist types. Quite possibly his entire thing is fabricated for money, there's a lot of that around now. He used to work for Rebel Media and that essentially sums up their platform, only most people there aren't really traditionalists they're just trying to sell you that in a spoon fed way.

Yeah so there group really isn't for me but I'm not sure how it's white supremacist at all. It's mostly just a men's organisation for certain kinds of boys. Wouldn't surprise me if it attracted people who were white nationalists though because of the overlapping interest between 'bring back real men,' and nationalistic politics.

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It's basically a fan club for Gavin I remember when he established it a while back when he was still on rebel media. They were made fun of a lot, and I don't remember seeing a lot of extreme racism in their ranks. Bunch of dorks wearing polos.


The only reason they became relevant was because of that riot in portland during one of Gavin's speaking events.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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It's basically a fan club for Gavin I remember when he established it a while back when he was still on rebel media. They were made fun of a lot, and I don't remember seeing a lot of extreme racism in their ranks. Bunch of dorks wearing polos.


The only reason they became relevant is because antifa attacked them at a speaking event Gavin was attending in Portland. Antifa was throwing things at them during the event and when the people were leaving they charged some of the stragglers causing a bit of a riot. Of course defending themselves from physical assault instantly made them nazis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izLJlkiTxVA

Example of this behavior at a different speaking event.

His rhetoric never struck me as particularly hateful but it is conservative. The way people react to him is some what amusing to me because he's not a far step from being moderate. He also has a native american wife so he can't be all that racist.
I wouldn't say it's just self defense. I've seen several video clips where he advocates for escalating violence, and at one point basically said that if anyone who looks left wing approaches you, you should choke them. 8 minutes into the video below. He also talks about various fights he's gotten into in a way that shows he's clearly enjoying it.




So I wouldn't say it's just self defense he seems to have a lot of anger and restlessness like a lot of people do these days, and enjoys any excuse. I dunno about the rest of the group though.

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I wouldn't say it's just self defense. I've seen several video clips where he advocates for escalating violence, and at one point basically said that if anyone who looks left wing approaches you, you should choke them. 8 minutes into the video below. He also talks about various fights he's gotten into in a way that shows he's clearly enjoying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJGSrYLWxQ



So I wouldn't say it's just self defense he seems to have a lot of anger and restlessness like a lot of people do these days, and enjoys any excuse. I dunno about the rest of the group though.
That's why I deleted part of my post. I don't delve very deeply in the rhetoric of cult personalities and I often error in my presumptions of them. I do think that people such as Gavin derive some pleasure from being hated and watching the chaos.

I've watched Gavin Mccinnes before and his commentaries weren't very memorable for me. I tend to be pushed towards the conservative side because I don't fully agree with liberals and have a beg to differ personality. Right now it seems to be you either agree or you're a horrible human being. It's a bit ironic because I have plenty of common ground to share with the left and polar opposite accusations were thrown at me before 2016.

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I had honestly never heard of them until a week ago someone in my neighborhood had started posting "warning" flyers that we have some local Proud Boys around and to keep a watch out.
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To preempt the inevitable free speech argument...

1. Facebook isn't a government, its more like a person in economic terms, so if it is a person, then all of us who use Facebook are like pubic lice taking selfies and hanging them atop pubes, and everyone has the right to selectively remove pubic lice and their weird licey hanging pictures from their pubic bowl don't they?

2. You own your home, lets say (yeh, no, but imagine you did) and you invite a bunch of pubic lice into your living room. A group of the lice form and give themselves a name like "Real Manlicess Proud Gang of True BoyLices" and they start spouting off about how your living room sucks for real menlice because your Milo picture is crooked.

Anyway, where was I, yeh, your living room just isn't boylyish manly enough, and femlice are **** and everyone should get into fights for "the cause" (and the cause isn't coherent because its just hating stuff and getting into fights for the cause which is getting into fights for the cause which is getting into fights for the cause..) and hahahahahahahaha a massive fat lice ploughed through a group of leftlice who can't even fight without pepper spray (I mean they literally haven't even been in fights, the ****s) and tattoos, but don't try to throw me out of your house because it would be a breech of free speech you leftist house ****.

I trust that resolves the thread.

 
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Well no, the above doesn't resolve anything. Because Facebook isn't like your living room, you didn't invite them etc. You opened a platform for everyone, then got mad because everyone didn't agree with your leftist views.
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Well no, the above doesn't resolve anything. Because Facebook isn't like your living room, you didn't invite them etc. You opened a platform for everyone, then got mad because everyone didn't agree with your leftist views.
No need for a snowflake attack on this one. Facebook doesn't allow racism and that's what the proud boys are about so they got the boot. Simple right?


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