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On the dark web, there are many disturbing things going on

I expect most of us watch porn (Paul Raymond hates online porn; obviously)

But what is consensual & what is not?

I have seen some footage that, if you frame by frame, it is obviously not consensual, on the part of the woman

Obviously, most hanging footage is doctored to look real. For example, a hanging scene you only see top half & bottom half of woman separately.

But...……………………..

I'm a stickler for detail. Some of this footage is real

Like anything on the internet, things can be faked

People can be who they fantasise themselves to be & opposite gender to what they really are

So how can the internet be policed?

There is CEOP's, so that's a start at least

But beyond that?

While you SCREAM at your woman, there's a man, wishing he could talk softly in her ear...

While you HUMILIATE, OFFEND, & INSULT her,
there's a man flirting with her, & reminding her, how wonderful she is.

While you HURT your woman,
there's a man wishing he could show her love

While you make your woman CRY,
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So, you are saying you go onto the darknet and watch porn where women are actually being raped?

How about not doing that ?

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Actually, there is a certain porn site Bob, as easily accessible as any website, that shows stuff like that

If you don't know which site I'm referring to, you're better off not knowing

The particular site, you can register an account, to see more footage, than you can view as a guest

They have a contact form; which I have used to ask them about the footage they accept from viewers & post on site

They actually replied

This is a direct quote from them

"We have no control over the footage posted on this site.

This is an adult pornography site & the ethos of this site is to allow anyone to express themselves, however they wish to

We don't censor material. It is for the person submitting material to be responsible for the content they upload to this site

We do appreciate the serious nature of your concern, so we have temporarily taken down the footage you refer to

Thankyou

Admin"

WTF?

Still, at least they replied; give them credit there

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You should be more careful in case you get caught, especially if they have videos of people being hanged.

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Darknet and porn is a bit of a soft spot for me as a year ago my best and oldest friend was caught downloading child porn and planning an act on the darknet. I don't have any tolerance for this stuff, so it pushes my buttons. Sry Twocky if I assumed prematurely, you mentioned the darknet, and thinking about that and non consensual stuff makes me want to puke.

Re that, just don't go on the darknet, and don't watch anything even remotely close to non consensual. If it isn't, you are basically funding it, through ad revenue or whatever.

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Thanks Silent & Bob

I have actually gone darker

I'm sure everyone is aware anything can be bought online; legal or otherwise

So lets take the dodgy arms trade, for example

The US has a gun culture; the UK has stricter controls over firearms

Further than that, you can even purchase government issue weaponry such a fk off RPG's (The world's gone mad)

Then to the very worst weaponry available on the internet; if you can get hold of Plutonium (more difficult to get hold of than Uranium (Plutonium is man made; Uranium is grown (like Cannabis, if you like))) & you can find instructions on construction of nukes

Fantastic science fiction?

I better leave it there; lest we have any terrorists out there

As fantastic as this sounds; you better believe it. as this is worrying true of our fkd up world of today

Never mind Trump & Putin pressing that button

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You will go to prison (again) if you're watching illegal content.

As for the future it is going to become difficult to police stuff when they can no longer prove what is real and fake (because of technology,) so naturally anything realistic enough that would be illegal now, will have to become illegal.
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You will go to prison (again) if you're watching illegal content.

As for the future it is going to become difficult to police stuff when they can no longer prove what is real and fake (because of technology,) so naturally anything realistic enough that would be illegal now, will have to become illegal.
Is that some European Law? America I think it's only illegal with Child Pornography or similar for obvious reasons. But anything else I'm not too sure. Since I don't watch things that might be construed as illegal. I really have no idea what constitutes illegal as far as US law is concerned. Like watching a live murder? Although people getting killed I've seen on sites like LiveLeak or death addict out of morbid curiosity. But a lot of that is war or accidents.

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If you feel that the footage is real then maybe not watch it. I know people have fantasies and I’m no thought police, so I’m not judging. Maybe you can find videos of what you like where you know the people are acting .
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You can go to jail for sharing live streams of murders (even when they’re not live anymore) and there’s a risk with anything dark you watch. It isn’t worth it, and there are a lot of other ways you could entertain yourself legally. If you’re reading or watching instructions for how to make weapons, you really need to stop. Is there a reason you’re looking at these things?

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Is that some European Law? America I think it's only illegal with Child Pornography or similar for obvious reasons. But anything else I'm not too sure. Since I don't watch things that might be construed as illegal. I really have no idea what constitutes illegal as far as US law is concerned. Like watching a live murder? Although people getting killed I've seen on sites like LiveLeak or death addict out of morbid curiosity. But a lot of that is war or accidents.
The EU doesn't share laws for this kind of thing, but in the UK:

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidanc...me-pornography

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Section 37 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 amended the offence of possession of extreme pornographic images in section 63 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 so that, in England and Wales, the offence can be committed by the possession of extreme pornographic images depicting non-consensual penetration and rape. The amendment made by section 37 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 do not apply to possession of an image which occurs before 13 April 2015.
They also recently banned a bunch of stuff in porn creation only, so basically it's illegal to create porn that does this but not to consume it from outside the UK (cause.. Why?):

Spanking

Caning

Aggressive whipping

Penetration by any object "associated with violence"

Physical or verbal abuse (regardless of if consensual)

Urolagnia (known as "water sports")

Role-playing as non-adults

Physical restraint

Humiliation

Female ejaculation

Strangulation

Facesitting

Fisting


(tbh I need to keep up with this because I read some weird ****, and who knows when that might get banned lol.)

Anyway I know someone who did go to prison for possession of extreme porn (like downloading it,) for a few months in the UK. I guess if it's not a first offense, and depending on other specifics it would be a lot longer.
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My rule of thumb is that if I need to research to ensure that it's not real rape/the actress is really over the age of consent, I don't really want to watch that. So I just choose pornography that's clearly acting, often by searching the catalogues of producers that I know and like.

Not really into snuff films, so that makes it easy. There really is everything on the internet. There shouldn't be, but there is. You can choose what to avoid.

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Lol, behold the obscene female ejaculation. Where is this list from?

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The EU doesn't share laws for this kind of thing, but in the UK:

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidanc...me-pornography



They also recently banned a bunch of stuff in porn creation only, so basically it's illegal to create porn that does this but not to consume it from outside the UK (cause.. Why?):

Spanking

Caning

Aggressive whipping

Penetration by any object "associated with violence"

Physical or verbal abuse (regardless of if consensual)

Urolagnia (known as "water sports")

Role-playing as non-adults

Physical restraint

Humiliation

Female ejaculation

Strangulation

Facesitting

Fisting


(tbh I need to keep up with this because I read some weird ****, and who knows when that might get banned lol.)

Anyway I know someone who did go to prison for possession of extreme porn (like downloading it,) for a few months in the UK. I guess if it's not a first offense, and depending on other specifics it would be a lot longer.
Damn. All the good stuff.


JK.

But, seriously, a lot of those things seem very ambiguous. Who is writing these laws?

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My rule of thumb is that if I need to research to ensure that it's not real rape/the actress is really over the age of consent, I don't really want to watch that. So I just choose pornography that's clearly acting, often by searching the catalogues of producers that I know and like.

Not really into snuff films, so that makes it easy. There really is everything on the internet. There shouldn't be, but there is. You can choose what to avoid.



Lol, behold the obscene female ejaculation. Where is this list from?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-9897174.html

There were some protests about it around the time it happened outside parliament.

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Damn. All the good stuff.


JK.

But, seriously, a lot of those things seem very ambiguous. Who is writing these laws?
I dunno tbh it was in the media a few years ago. The government at the moment is conservative (so was the previous one, when this came out,) and Theresa May is a big fan of censorship in general, so she's been pushing the porn block thing where you have to enter your personal details to access porn sites (still hasn't been rolled out it seems.)

the things that don't concern specific acts like 'humiliation' are very vague and subjective.
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Ah the dark web & morbid curiousity, there's definitely stuff out there that's not consensual, don't go exploring the rancid depths of the human psyche, if you can't handle a healthy dose of reality






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If you have to ask whether or not something you are watching is consensual or not, it probably isn't. You should probably stop looking this stuff up for your own safety. If caught you could be in serious trouble.

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Being nosey Silent

There was the autistic guy, Gary McKinnon, who hacked into DoD & other US government data bases

The US tried to extradite him, but our then prime Minister Theresa May, told them (to all intents & purposes) to fk off, after ten years of the US's efforts

He & I are obviously 'peas in a pod', so to speak

The issue is with the US Government

They actually had computer networks NOT password locked. Anyone could have got in

As it happened, Gary's interest is in extra-terrestrial. He was looking for any information on such. He actually also hacked into Area 51.

The US are probably the richest country in the Western World. They have excellent technology. But do US government personal have the intelligence to use this technology?

Sadly; I believe not

George Bush & Donald Trump as a sad example

Maybe the average US citizen would be more suited in Congress than any of the current politicians

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