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Klonopin in the media


Last night I was watching something on CNN and they had a story about Stevie Nicks going to rehab for Klonopin addiction. I just wish they would clarify their wording and make it clear Klonopin is not a bad drug. There is a difference between being a Klonopin user and a Klonopin abuser.

Also, they said Klonopin was the drug found in Anna Nicole's system. Anyone have the full story on this?

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There is a difference between being a Klonopin user and a Klonopin abuser.
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Last night I was watching something on CNN and they had a story about Stevie Nicks going to rehab for Klonopin addiction.
She was detoxing from Klonopin as far back as 1993, so this is nothing new. She was also addicted to painkillers, so perhaps she has some propensity to addiction and this isn't something that can be blamed on any particular pill. People like to blame pills, but nobody blames Jack Daniels, Bacardi, or Miller for alcoholics.

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Ultimately her death was ruled an accidental drug overdose of the sedative chloral hydrate that became increasingly lethal when combined with other prescription drugs in her system, specifically 4 benzodiazepines: Klonopin (Clonazepam), Ativan (Lorazepam), Serax (Oxazepam), and Valium (Diazepam). Furthermore, she had taken Benadryl (Diphenhydramine) and Topamax (Toprimate), an anticonvulsant GABA agonist, which likely contributed to the sedative effect of chloral hydrate and the benzodiazepines.
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CBS just aired a story about a guy who died from a Xanax overdose. According to my doc, benzo's are difficult to OD on. Is this true?

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CBS just aired a story about a guy who died from a Xanax overdose. According to my doc, benzo's are difficult to OD on. Is this true?

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Yes.
according to rxlist regarding xanax, "The acute oral LD50 in rats is 331-2171 mg/kg.

the guy likely died from mixing alcohol or other **** that potentiated its effects leading to respiratory depression.

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CBS just aired a story about a guy who died from a Xanax overdose.
Oh, goodie, more drug bashing by the media to hurt patients who need the drug they're bashing.

Death by benzo OD is possible, but exceptionally unlikely. When benzos first hit the market they were a major success because they were so very safe in OD cases. Before benzos came along in 1960 barbiturates would have been used and they are very toxic in excess -- in fact, barbs are what's generally used in euthanasia (in places that allow doctor-assisted suicide). Marilyn Monroe would be a very famous example of death by barb OD, Nembutal to be exact.

To die from benzos you'd either need access to extraordinary amounts -- I'm talking several hundred of the largest dose tablets to have any serious chance of death -- or, much more likely, you'd really be dying from a combo of CNS depressants that just happens to include Xanax.

Xanax will lower the amount of alcohol needed to cause a fatal OD, but you'd still need to be raging drunk and on the very edge of fatal alcohol poisoning already for any normal-size dose of Xanax to push you over the edge to death.

This same crap happened at the start of this decade when the media was into its OxyContin (Hillbilly Heroin as reporters called it) craze. They'd call it an oxy death even when some jackass washed down a far-from-fatal amount of oxy with a big bottle of vodka. Blood alcohol content over .50 is typically the fatal range. Is taking a normal dose that might lower the fatal amount to .45 really an issue?

Just remember not to behave like Nicolas Cage in "Leaving Las Vegas" when you take a benzo and you'll be safe.
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if my math is correct and the LD50 of rats (according to rxlist) translates to humans even on the low side of the scale, thats over 1300 totem poles. Better hope the pharmacy just got stocked before the night you decide to rob it if you plan to go out this way.

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CBS just aired a story about a guy who died from a Xanax overdose. According to my doc, benzo's are difficult to OD on. Is this true?

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he obviously died using other drugs with the xanax such as alcohol most likely




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