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Old 05-27-2019, 01:48 AM Thread Starter
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5 months of Nardil


Hi guys I am back again with an update. I started Nardil in January this year. Since then I definitely feel it has helped me to get my life back on track again. I have had some major anxiety during college. With nardil I was able to continue my education. I have also had a couple of job interviews and will probably start a new job next month. Although I am happy with the medicine I am still trying to optimalise the result. I feel the results now are very inconsistent and I still struggle with the dosage. I have only been taking 1-2 pills of 15 mg a day and would skipp some days occasionally. Whenever I raise my dose I feel like I get rushed, and stressed. Whenever this happens I am easier anxious and I get these hot flashes which are actually the main reason why I take nardil cause they are part of my social anxiety. I sometimes combine nardil with a beta blocker or oxybutynine (for sweating). I am not sure if I should stop taking nardil and just take the bets blocker / oxybutynine when needed. Keep taking a low dose of nardil or raise the dosage and see if this will make me feel more consistent. Anyway right now I feel 50-60% better and I am happy about that of course. I know it's not a wonder drug and I will have some anxiety at moments like probably everyone does. If anyone wants to share some thoughts on it, you are welcome to do so.

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Old 05-27-2019, 07:52 PM
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I'd say raise the dose of Nardil and stick with it for a month or so to see if the uncomfortable feeling you describe goes away.

What you're taking, 15-30mg, seems like a sub-therapeutic dose to me. If you raise it to, say, 45mg then 60mg and it starts working better, then you might be able to drop back down to 30mg as a maintenance dose.

If the Nardil starts working better you probably wouldn't feel the need to take the beta blocker as well.
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Hi Greek girl this is a long post but I hope you read it. I am so glad to see you stuck to Nardil! I have not been consistent with my use of this medicine. I used it for 6.5 weeks on 60mg of Greenstone Nardil until I changed brands to Gavis and upped the dosage to 75mg then it popped out. I couldn’t orgasm with my gf so I wanted to lower the dosage so I could but then we broke up.

Now I have a new and better gf and I went back up to 60mg for 2 weeks until I decided to do psychedelics because Nardil made them completely effectless on me. Now, I am barely back on 60mg for 6 weeks. This time I am using Gavis and my side effects have been far, far fewer. No body aches nor excessive daytime sleepiness. The anorgasmia is really bad though. And while I didn’t have insomnia as bad as I did on Greenstone, occasionally it hits me, like right now! But I have gone up like 40 pounds unfortunately. I wonder if metformin would help me lose weight or only stop me from gaining more weight.

My current gf said something a bit disheartening: if once you take a medication, you stop it, then the next time you start it again, it will never again work as efficiently as it did that first round. However, I feel like if I am 75% liberated of anxiety and only 50% liberated of depression, but I am so glad to have the anxiety be almost gone. I am only wondering at this point when the anorgasmia goes away or what medicine to take to combat it. I have taken Viagra but it only works for ED and not the anorgasmia.

But again, congratulations I am so happy for you!
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Old 06-07-2019, 02:34 AM Thread Starter
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Thank for your response. I am thinking about raising my dose again cause lately I am experiencing a lot of social anxiety again. Panic attacks, blushing, sweating when just entering a room with people and I have to tell something or speak to them. Oh how I hate this social anxiety. I actually thought things were becoming better and they have been getting better. However when there is a professional aspect to it I get more social anxiety like job interviews or whenever it's a more serious conversation. I just took 2 pills of 15 MG at once and I am experiencing a lot of dizzyness. Can you tell me what your ideal dosage was and how you would take it?

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Not sure if your last post was directed to me, Greekgirl, but I'll answer anyway 🙂

I seem to get on best with 90mg. I've dropped to 75 for a few weeks a couple of times, but find my mood dips, so I've always gone back to the higher dose.

Bear in mind the dose/body weight equation, through ... it's supposed to be roughly 1mg per kg. I weigh just under 100kg.

I should also mention that I generally always seem to need higher doses of meds to get a good response.

I take the full dose in the morning on an empty stomach. I find it works best for me that way, rather than splitting it up throughout the day. I'd probably forget to take the odd tablet that way too.

You could try going up 15mg every couple of weeks and maybe stay at 60 or 75 for a couple of months to see if you start feeling better. If your doctor agrees, of course.

Good luck with whatever you decide, and keep us updated on how you go 😉
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Not sure if your last post was directed to me, Greekgirl, but I'll answer anyway 🙂

I seem to get on best with 90mg. I've dropped to 75 for a few weeks a couple of times, but find my mood dips, so I've always gone back to the higher dose.

Bear in mind the dose/body weight equation, through ... it's supposed to be roughly 1mg per kg. I weigh just under 100kg.

I should also mention that I generally always seem to need higher doses of meds to get a good response.

I take the full dose in the morning on an empty stomach. I find it works best for me that way, rather than splitting it up throughout the day. I'd probably forget to take the odd tablet that way too.

You could try going up 15mg every couple of weeks and maybe stay at 60 or 75 for a couple of months to see if you start feeling better. If your doctor agrees, of course.

Good luck with whatever you decide, and keep us updated on how you go 😉
Thanks jtd,

I upped my dose since a couple of days went from 15 to 45 - 60 pretty quick. I feel like it's blocking the anxiety a lot better already, no more racing thoughts..Feel more comfortable with people in general. But then I also feel super tyred, I have cognitive side effects.. I notice I am a lot slower and I don't think I should drive either.. I feel pretty numbed too.. I am hoping this will pass.. I wanted to take my dose before bed because I thought the side effects would be less but I'm not sure if that will work. I am thinking about taking 2 tabs in the morning and 2 before bed...

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In addition, I am super hungry!! And I just care less in general, for instance about my expenses, but also about me sweating once and a while.. Like when I arrive at uni, or at the start of a meeting. Although I am very tyred, once I start working on something I can continue with that for quite some time.. To be honest it almost feels a little hypo manic... The same I felt once I started with it
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Yes, it can make you a bit hyped when you first increase the dose, but it will pass.

For me, the cognitive effects have lessened, although I so still feel slightly slower mentally, and take longer when I'm getting ready to go out because I'm always forgetting stuff.

I haven't had any numb feelings, though. I took heaps of SSRIs before Nardil and I guess that's one of the things I like best about N - I still have emotions.

It's good that your anxiety has dropped. Give it time on the higher dose (I'd recommend 2 or 3 months; a few weeks isn't enough to tell) and see how you go.

It's all a trade-off. You might just have to decide if the benefits make it worth putting up with the annoying side-effects. For me, they definitely do.

As for the dosing, it's different for everyone I guess. I like the feeling I get from taking it all in the morning lol. And I also feel it's less likely to disrupt my sleep that way.

Good luck and let us know how you go 😉
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Hi guys,

Have not been doing so great lately. I feel my anxiety is getting worse and on top of that I feel side effects of nardil, specifically drowsiness and headaches. I have to say I have been under some extra stress lately. My relationship is ending, I am having some financial struggles as well and I am currently starting a new job and I am going to different clients, so I don't have one place I work where I can get comfortable.

I am afraid of having a relapse but I just have to remember where I came from and that I am much further now.

I really hope the nardil will kick it at some point I have been using 60 MG a day right now.. I'm not sure if I have to stick with it or not.

On the other side i found a wonderful man (who i have known but never dated) who lifts me up, I can talk to and helps me proces all these new things coming my way..

Anyway I felt I could let you guys know..

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Sorry to hear things aren't good.

Hang on in there. I remember I was up and down for a while when I started on Nardil, before things stabilized.

I had bad days and I became worried that the tablets had stopped working. But all came good in the end.

And I guess it sounds obvious, but remember the pills aren't a magical cure.

Stressful life stuff like you mention will still bring you down.

But hopefully the Nardil will act as a "safety net" and stop you falling too far.

Good luck 🙂
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Hey yall, I wanted to throw in a quick note of encouragement and perhaps a tweak you might consider. I started Nardil in February and outside of 3-4 days in March, was not finding any real success, but did have plenty of side effects. Weekdays were ok, as I could distract myself with work, but I wanted to spend all weekend in my bed, as I felt dead inside. The other debilitating aspect of this drug is the (almost) complete absence of resources to go to to find out if you should hang in there or not. Glad to have this forum for at least a little bit of community.

About 3 weeks ago, at 75 mg, I decided to quit and started down to 60 mg. Then I remembered I have some vacation coming up in July and the last thing in the world I want is to be experiencing the utter torture of quitting a med when I’m supposed to be enjoying myself. As much as I can, anyways. So I popped back up to 75 mg and hell if I didn’t feel a bit of relief. For the past 10 days, I’ve been bouncing back from 60 for two days to 75 for two days and (I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud, as I’m scared to death to jinx it) but I’ve enjoyed 8-9 of the best days I’ve had in years. My anxiety is down to almost nothing, my depression is largely gone, too, and I’m just content being me.

As you can imagine, I’m scared it’s going to go away and am preparing myself for the other shoe to drop. I’d tried 6-7 meds over the years and did a ketamine infusion in December. Nothing. The depression had been around forever (I’m 48, btw), but the anxiety only showed up a year or so ago.

With Nardil, I have insomnia, have to fight weight gain and suffer inorgasma. Earlier I had bad gastro issues, but daily fiber has helped. Short term memory kind of sucks, but it runs in the family and nearing 50, I’m almost old enough to start blaming it on my age. All in all, I’ll trade all these symptoms for the relief I’m currently experiencing.

My heart breaks for all of you out there dealing with the demons that are depression and anxiety. No one should have to go through what we do. If this poops out, I may turn to psilocybin as a last resort. We all deserve to live a better life than the hand we’ve been dealt.

Hang in there,

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Thank you guys for your support. I started to give it some more time. I am starting on a more regular dose since I haven't really been doing that. Right now I am just starting on 30 MG. I just get so hyped in the beginning. Not really anxious just very jittery and feel like I need to chill down. This is also the reason why I never went up to 45-60 MG. I am kinda petite I am a woman and i way about 60 kg and I am 160 cm. So I guess I won't need a very high dose for it to work, but I do wanne try to go up to 60 just for a while and see what happens.

Thanx guys for your support. I feel that my mood may have had something to do with the situation that's going on now..
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Sorry to hear things aren't good.

Hang on in there. I remember I was up and down for a while when I started on Nardil, before things stabilized.

I had bad days and I became worried that the tablets had stopped working. But all came good in the end.

And I guess it sounds obvious, but remember the pills aren't a magical cure.

Stressful life stuff like you mention will still bring you down.

But hopefully the Nardil will act as a "safety net" and stop you falling too far.

Good luck 🙂
Thank you jtd,

I have been a over the place with nardil lately trying to figure out how it makes me feel, what my dosage should be and when I should take it. I think I figured out that I feel pretty good about 3 hours after taking 2x15 MG. That's when I start to feel happy, alert, and motivated to do things. I still have to figure out how long this lasts and when my second dose should be. Sometimes I feel I have a lot of side effects, like it's making me nervous, more anxious, unmotivated, no libido and different secusal experience. I am motivated to figure it out though but I have to say there are a lot of ups and downs lately. This morning I was fed up with everything, scared wanted to hide in my house and did not know how I would go to work this week. Now I feel fine and I want to attack life and make the most out of it.
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