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Torkani 04-12-2013 03:30 AM

Masturbation might cause anxiety for some people because it can cause shame. But for most people, it probably won't.

modus 04-17-2013 01:13 PM

Today in class we learned something interesting. If guys masturbate/have sex more than 3x a week, their sperm count goes down.

In my mind, this could really effect motivation and lead to anxiety problems, as you may want to do things, but the sexual energy is not there to do so. It's pretty much a known truth that how much you masturbate effects your personality.. what we're stuck on is just how much it contributes to anxiety.

Psychology 04-18-2013 12:05 PM

Some of the logic on here is ridiculous. Just because something causes anxiety for one person doesn't mean it will for everyone. So comments like "oh well I have anxiety and I don't masturbate much" mean nothing. Your anxiety is caused by something else. There isn't one source for anxiety. It's caused by many things.

And yes there's a clear link between EXCESSIVE masturbation and anxiety,, primarily in men. Why? See article below.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...ating-too-much

End of.

prisonofmind 04-18-2013 12:16 PM

I saw the thread too, tried it. Lasted 3 days and 7 hours. (Sorry for the TMI)


Didn't seem to make a difference.

Spritz11 04-18-2013 12:16 PM

Pfffft.

Andy Harglesis 04-18-2013 01:16 PM

I'm surprised that there's so few female users writing here.

It's like a whole thread talking about masturbating, but mostly only applying it to males.

Last time I checked, from both personal experience and statistics, 75% of U.S. females, on average, masturbate before 18, and about 50% do it regularly.

That would mean that millions of underaged girls masturbate.

How come I only see people talking about masturbation in regards of males only?

I've known girls, and most of them admitted to masturbating, some as much or more than males do.

One girl I knew was 11 and she admitted to masturbating to gay porn(porn with dudes getting it on). Guess what? She doesn't have Social Anxiety ... oh, and she's a girl.

Shocking.



Not.

Oprah the billionaire did a study on older women (25 >) and revealed that almost one in three women for every three men will watch porn and masturbate to it.

Although, more females liked erotica/visual porn mixes more than males did(most males prefered just visual porn only), it doesn't change the situation.

Andy Harglesis 04-18-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Harglesis (Post 1062954289)
study on older women (25 >).

I strongly assume this applies to younger women as well. There's just some wall in society that doesn't enable girls or women to talk and be more open about their self-pleasing habits, but trust me the majority of females in the U.S., and worldwide do it, and if this shame-game ended, I'd bet even more would do it regularly, coming closer to males.

prisonofmind 04-18-2013 01:21 PM

^ Maybe the ladies are more self-conscious about discussing it openly.

cricklewood 04-18-2013 01:37 PM

Omg i stopped drinking fizzy drinks and now my anxiety is gone. I have it all figured out. I don't know how it works but trust me on it. Trust me on it dammnit!!!!!

strelok 05-04-2013 09:15 AM

All those all-day wankers who try to defend their porn here...
Masturbation causes a dopamine spike, just like anything rewarding->addicting.
Whether its gambling, porn, masturbation, gaming or drugs.
Draining dopamine = desentisized dopamine receptors
There is no difference in masturbating everyday and taking mdma so often that your body is desentisized to serotonin like hell.
Thats why all your masturbation and porn made contributed A LOT to your SA.
But if you dont want to believe it, dont believe it. Try to escape your weird freak/social awkward/loser life by doing loser stuff all day. masturbate and hide in your basement.

strelok 05-04-2013 09:19 AM

And I would like to add that everyone who just goes into defense mode "don't take away my fapping and porn please! your theories are wrong!!!!" without even trying it himself deserves his SA. And deserves it to experience even worse.
But who would have NO motivation to try such a simple thing.. hm?
Or could it be that the low motivation comes from low dopamine?
And why do you masturbate at all? Could it be that you are addicted to it, and therefore don't want to (or better: CAN'T) stop it?
Tell me please. Because we all know that low motivation, low confidence, addictional behaviour.. etc. are all NOT related to dopamine,, right? oh wait..

Coupon 05-04-2013 09:52 AM

True. Masturbation decreases testosterone, testosterone is what makes you confident. Once I decided to abstain from masturbation forever, I became much more confident. I was like a different person.

tieffers 05-04-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by strelok (Post 1063413505)
There is no difference in masturbating everyday and taking mdma so often that your body is desentisized to serotonin like hell.

The feelings you have during an orgasm are attributed to dopamine and afterwards oxytocin (which can encourage 'socially reinforced learning and empathy' not that I'm saying it's going to cure your SA or anything). MDMA, on the other hand, releases unnatural amounts of serotonin from its storage sites. To give you an idea of just how much serotonin it releases, it can actually result in hyperthermia, heart arrhythmia, or kidney failure. You can google serotonin syndrome or serotonergic neurotoxicity if you want to know more about it.

Excluding the kinds of neurological dysfunction that can arise from an addiction to masturbation, occasional orgasms certainly won't change your brain chemistry for the worse, or make you desensitized to any neurotransmitter. It's a measured release of natural opiates that you are inducing in a natural way, that both your body and your mind are made to be prepared for. It is definitely not the equivalent of taking an illicit drug like MDMA...though it might feel like it. I don't know; it's not like I know what taking an ecstasy tab feels like.

tl;dr - MDMA destroys serotonin axons; orgasms don't. Not that there aren't negative effects associated with over-masturbation. But this isn't one of them.

IveGotToast 05-04-2013 10:23 AM


fredbloggs02 05-04-2013 10:32 AM

Might it have anything to do with the stigma attached to it? I feel most people in Western society are made to feel ashamed of their sexuality. If you are susceptible to shame in the eyes of the community who tell you: "masturbation is shameful, you should have a girlfriend by now"- even if you don't believe that yourself, might it not(to speak candidly) rub off on them?

This cannot be a universal truth. Diogenes masturbated in the streets of Athens proudly. He didn't lose sleep over calling the men of Athens around him before beating them with his stick shouting at them: "I said men, not scoundrels!" I would do the same if I had the courage... As I leap out of the way in the middle of a piss in the forest when a woman comes by pushing her pram and you can get done for indecent exposure- I don't. I would likely feel less anxious if I stopped, but I would rather negate what I feel to be the true cause of anxiety, without castrating myself if that is possible.

Coupon 05-04-2013 11:11 AM

It makes sense that masturbation would cause anxiety. When humans lived in the jungle, we weren't smart enough to figure out masturbation. If you wanted that pleasure, you had to get a girlfriend. So the brain assumes that if you are masturbating, you are actually having sex.

So if you masturbate every day, your brain goes "Oh this is sooo good, we are procreating every day, no point to making yourself any more handsome or any better, 'cause we can't get any better than this. Might as well slack off."

But if you abstain, your brain goes "OH **** OH **** THIS IS SO TERRIBLE, I HAVEN'T PASSED ON MY GENES IN A LONG TIME"
and then your pituitary gland tells this to your testicles:
"C'MON TESTES, MAKE SOME MORE TESTOSTERONE SO WE CAN GET MORE CONFIDENT HERE, WE NEED TO GET A GIRLFRIEND NOW!!!!"

It sounds stupid but it makes sense.

Neddy123 05-04-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coupon (Post 1063416577)
It makes sense that masturbation would cause anxiety. When humans lived in the jungle, we weren't smart enough to figure out masturbation. If you wanted that pleasure, you had to get a girlfriend. So the brain assumes that if you are masturbating, you are actually having sex.

So if you masturbate every day, your brain goes "Oh this is sooo good, we are procreating every day, no point to making yourself any more handsome or any better, 'cause we can't get any better than this. Might as well slack off."

But if you abstain, your brain goes "OH **** OH **** THIS IS SO TERRIBLE, I HAVEN'T PASSED ON MY GENES IN A LONG TIME"
and then your pituitary gland tells this to your testicles:
"C'MON TESTES, MAKE SOME MORE TESTOSTERONE SO WE CAN GET MORE CONFIDENT HERE, WE NEED TO GET A GIRLFRIEND NOW!!!!"

It sounds stupid but it makes sense.

It sounds stupid because it is stupid. Humans are intelligent enough to know that masturbation is not sex.

As others have said i think the only reason you could link masturbation to anxiety is the feeling of "shame" you have afterwards. But honestly, I sometimes go days without doing it and i don't think it makes a difference to me personally.

Billy2 05-04-2013 01:01 PM

Just saying you're a ****ing idiot. It's just the placebo effect. You had confidence that quitting might work, you told yourself it would. Now that you believe you are cured, you kind of are. The placebo effect is very effective in SA, because SA is caused by a lack of confidence in itself. So the confidence given from the treatment helps you.

tablesaw2 05-04-2013 05:54 PM

the thread title can be made more accurate by simply adding "for me" onto the end of it.
you don't need to know about any of the hormonal or other neurochemical changes that excessive masturbation/porn causes or doesn't cause. all you have to do is try it for yourself. maybe it will help your sa, maybe it wont, but people who claim that masturbation has nothing to do with sa or that it has everything to do with sa are merely speaking for themselves. so don't knock it till you try it, and even then, don't knock someone else's experiences. placebo effect or not, it shouldn't matter if it continues to be effective.

personally, my sa came about within the last two years. i'm withholding orgasm for a month to see what happens. i'm at 6 days now and started feeling more confident/at ease on day 4. i'm also happier. could it be a placebo? sure. you just have to wait and find out for yourself instead of shouting down people on forums who have had success.

Porterdog 05-04-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3served (Post 1060469063)
I don't know if I'm having a lucky couple of days but I remember a few days ago someone posted a thread about how masturbation can cause you to have anxiety.so I figured, what the heck? How does that have anything to do with social anxiety? Then I thought, hmm I might as well give it a try. I haven't masturbated in 3 days and I'm already starting to feel better. I know it's cause of masturbation because I haven't changed any of my normal routines besides refraining from masturbation. Plus I saw articles about the negative effects of masturbstion; anxiety, fatigue, blurry eyes, lower back pain, etc. i had all of those symptoms. I'm not ashamed to admit I masturbated once a day every day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, and that's gonna change. Trust me on this for those who masturbate a lot, limit ur masturbation and you will see positive results!

I did no-fap February and didn't change at all.


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