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Surgery to alleviate Social Phobia


many years ago (5ish) I read that there is a surgical procedure for SA which involves cutting some nerve ends in the spine or something. something brainstem-related i suppose. I think i recall that it had a 75% success rate?

Has anyone heard of this? Anyone undergone such surgery?

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I found it. it was written in a swedish newspaper on 4 december 2004. The google translate is suprisingly good:
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A new method of treating social phobia, which can be used when neither therapy nor medication helps, is to block certain nerves adjacent to the spine. This has the effect of significantly reducing the symptoms. The blockade is done in a [keyhole] operation under general anesthesia. 80% of the people who tried this experienced an improvement

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Sounds kind of crazy. I think people experience anxiety in different ways and have different experiences that lead to their anxiety developing. Some people may be born that way, some people have been traumatized, and some people are just a bit socially weird which results in a lifetime of rejection and ridicule from others.

I believe it is an evolutionary reaction to not fitting in with the "tribe". It would have mean't certain death to our prehistoric ancestors if they were not socially well adjusted. It makes sense that being socially isolated causes mental problems.

I doubt cutting up nerves in your brain stem is going to lead to a life of acceptance, love, and friendship.
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I remember reading something about surgery where they sever your amygdala or something like that. I would definitely have surgery if it would eliminate my SA, but I haven't heard of any.

... Hold on, let me check my calendar. Nope, nothing planned for the rest of the year.
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Whaaaaaat? That sounds crazy but awesome. Science is mad. Idk if i would because i can't imagine who i would be if i didn't have social phobia.


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i can't imagine who i would be if i didn't have social phobia.
It's decently easy to simulate by being drunk or benzo'd, but I totally get what you mean.

I might have some notes saved on the surgery thing ... I'll come back to this thread in 11 hours or so.
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Amygdala removal, as popularized by kurdishfella, does not target social anxiety specifically. The theory some people believe is that it can remove your ability to feel anxiety in general. But studies suggest that it only really removes some anxieties (mainly fears of things you should be afraid of), and actually causes social dysfunction: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ne...gdala-removed/

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I don't think this is a good idea lol, probably just turn you into a bit of a retard tbh. And the thing with anxiety is that it's nit just the feeling of anxiety, it's the thoughts as well, removing some nerves isn't going to get rid of them.
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I read about it to see what happens if the amygdala is removed, and it said it causes amnesia and a lot of other problems. It wouldn’t be worth it, and not having any fear at all could be dangerous and make people do things they shouldn’t like walk in traffic.

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Some people like this woman don't experience anxiety, fear and/or pain:

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It's decently easy to simulate by being drunk or benzo'd, but I totally get what you mean.

I might have some notes saved on the surgery thing ... I'll come back to this thread in 11 hours or so.
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I still have Sa even when drunk.


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I still have Sa even when drunk.
Ok, have you tried benzos?

I have SA when drunk too, and when benzo'd, but i'm MUCH more gutsy and disinhibited.

I found it. it was written in a swedish newspaper on 4 december 2004. The google translate is suprisingly good:
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Originally Posted by Svenska Dagbladet
A new method of treating social phobia, which can be used when neither therapy nor medication helps, is to block certain nerves adjacent to the spine. This has the effect of significantly reducing the symptoms. The blockade is done in a [keyhole] operation under general anesthesia. 80% of the people who tried this experienced an improvement

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I wouldn't be surprised if some of our political leaders have had the emotional centers in their brains completely neutralized. Quite a few of them have some fairly interesting looking scars on their heads.

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I wouldn't be surprised if some of our political leaders have had the emotional centers in their brains completely neutralized. Quite a few of them have some fairly interesting looking scars on their heads.
now that you mention it....

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