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Do you believe it's possible for everything to make sense if you know enough about it?


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That's a really broad question, and the answer would technically depend on precise definitions for "everything" and "make sense," which isn't even theoretically possible.

So to answer generally, no, I don't believe it's possible for "everything" to "make sense" to us -- because the universe doesn't revolve around us. I do think that the Human tendency to seek meaning in absolutely everything is absurd.

I'm curious as to exactly what your question is referencing though. Are we talking the mysteries of the universe, or some problem in your life specifically?

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No, there are physical laws proving that's not possible. You can't understand the exact position and momentum of a particle at the same time. Quantum effects mean that even if you know everything about the state of the universe at a given moment, you can't fully predict the next moment from it. Random chaotic ignorance is unavoidable.

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I didn't really mean if it was possible for everything to make sense at the same time. I meant that if we focus our gaze on any given thing for long enough and find out enough about whatever it is, we could eventually make sense of it. Like, I mean in a thousand years with every discovery we've yet to make and all technology not yet invented. How can we know that we couldn't eventually make sense of just about anything we can observe?

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if you confine yourself to a limited, static, virtual world then all things can make sense, like mathematics. and we do live in a virtual world, but external influences will always mean we don't understand it. the more your understanding is based in "reality" the less sense things make.

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I didn't really mean if it was possible for everything to make sense at the same time. I meant that if we focus our gaze on any given thing for long enough and find out enough about whatever it is, we could eventually make sense of it. Like, I mean in a thousand years with every discovery we've yet to make and all technology not yet invented. How can we know that we couldn't eventually make sense of just about anything we can observe?
I think the point is that our observational apparatus is flawed/limited, particularly when applied to things on a quantum scale, which would presumably be important at some point in future technologies and discoveries. There's this quote - I forget who said it - about how if the human brain were more complex/intelligent, it would still be unable to fully understand itself. Some kind of perpetual gap hypothesis. But I mean given that we can't even fully comprehend the nature of reality (or our observations), that's a big huge stumbling block right off the bat to complete understanding.

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I like the optimism though I question its necessity.

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if the human brain were more complex/intelligent, it would still be unable to fully understand itself.
if reality knew itself, well.... semantics can only take me so far lol

not saying that human cognition is the quintessential embodiment of reality in any way, but i think if any sentience could "understand itself", it still couldn't.

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I like the optimism though I question its necessity.
Nothing is necessary.

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Some things are necessary - like eating/breathing to stay alive. Understanding how the universe works is kinda optional.

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Nah, nothing makes sense. We're all a bunch of weird meat-bag things with consciousness hurling through space on a giant sphere-like object. There's also a bunch of lights in the sky for some reason, and a bunch of freaky *** stuff living at the bottom of the ocean.

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