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Anyone believe in Jesus anymore? Just curious. And if you don't, why? Let me know! Thanks
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it depends who you ask on the forum. there are several people here who do.
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Anyone believe in Jesus anymore? Just curious. And if you don't, why? Let me know! Thanks







The leaders, the celebrities, the philosophers all know there is a God and they reject him. Most of these people are free masons and part of secret societies. They have done a great job fooling the average person that there is no god (or by fooling them into believing multiple gods).
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I believe there was a Jesus who likely started Christianity but I don't believe in the biblical Jesus because the bible contradicts science.

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Possibility of a historical Jesus, sure. Not the one that's taught from the religious texts.

https://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f38/

You'll find a handful of Christians there.
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Let me ask a reciprocal question: Does anyone believe in Odin anymore? Just curious. And if you don't, why?

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It's strange when most people don't want to use a real bible, the authority textus receptus, to see who Jesus is. How can they hear about Jesus from the unbelieving world? The world's portrayal of Jesus is a weakling with long hair.


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Romans 10:14:
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
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Romans 10:17:
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

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1 John 4:1:
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
How do you try and discern without the bible?


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1 Corinthians 2:14:

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

You cannot go to the world for answers on the bible because the unbeliever does not understand.
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I'm agnostic, which seems to me a sensible option.

What puts me off Jesus: terrible things have been done in the name of Jesus and as a result I'm suspicious of organised religion. Occasionally I'll meet people who are into Jesus who are fine, not hate preachers and practising what they preach, but they tend to be in the minority. When Christians learn to embrace gays, people of other faiths and women, I'll lend them an ear. Some of them have and they are genuinely great people to be around, shame that the rest don't follow suit.

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I'm agnostic, which seems to me a sensible option.

What puts me off Jesus: terrible things have been done in the name of Jesus and as a result I'm suspicious of organised religion. Occasionally I'll meet people who are into Jesus who are fine, not hate preachers and practising what they preach, but they tend to be in the minority. When Christians learn to embrace gays, people of other faiths and women, I'll lend them an ear. Some of them have and they are genuinely great people to be around, shame that the rest don't follow suit.



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Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.


Jesus came to divide the people, not unite. His people against the world. The antichrist has his people against the believers etc. Believers should not be "taking" doctrine and customs from the world...they should be separate.
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I'm agnostic, which seems to me a sensible option.
same here.

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christians put me off jesus.

i think we would get along just fine, personally. and i like boatloads of christians, really-- the ones i get along with accept me for who i am. they let god do the judging and dont bother me constantly about what they think he would say to me.

my biggest dispute regarding christianity itself is exactly what it means to "accept jesus" in whatever way counts.

everyone with an answer to that question seems to think that i havent heard countless answers from an innumerable number of christians. i mean they make up a very substantial percentage of the human population on earth.

the point is, i dont care which which one of them is right. some of them i get along fine with, the others-- i dont have the patience for their nonsense. but i dont scoff at someone just for being christian. they have to be unreasonable, too.
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I believe Jesus existed but I think the mainstream idea of who he was is wrong. One interesting fact is that in the bible Jesus said a lot of the same things, word by word that Thoth wrote 36,000 years before. It definitely seems like Jesus isn't who he's been made out to be by mainstream religion. It's no surprise when you realize that the stories in the bible are just shorter stories from much older texts that were described in much greater detail. If you want to understand it you have to look at the Hebrew version for the literal translations and other texts like the ancient Sumerian tablets.

I mean, the King James bible has over 8,000 miss translations which were no doubt put there on purpose. Simple one is Elohim, in Hebrew it's actually plural not singular so it's actually "Gods" instead of "God". Big whoopsie, lol. Of course these Gods are the Anunnaki which have been written about in great detail.
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christians put me off jesus.

i think we would get along just fine, personally. and i like boatloads of christians, really-- the ones i get along with accept me for who i am. they let god do the judging and dont bother me constantly about what they think he would say to me.

my biggest dispute regarding christianity itself is exactly what it means to "accept jesus" in whatever way counts.

everyone with an answer to that question seems to think that i havent heard countless answers from an innumerable number of christians. i mean they make up a very substantial percentage of the human population on earth.

the point is, i dont care which which one of them is right. some of them i get along fine with, the others-- i dont have the patience for their nonsense. but i dont scoff at someone just for being christian. they have to be unreasonable, too.

God already gives us many many history lessons of what happens when believers have "interfaith" or "mixing" with the world customs, doctrines, and traditions.

Here is one example where the sons of God (believers) go and marry unbelievers (daughters of men) and get corrupted with their ways and their gods. Mighty men and men of renown means Kings (men that were known all over the world).

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There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
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Why do Christians celebrate "Christmas"? Not one mention about it on bible. (Not a surprise, since it's a Pagan celebration)

Also, Who's Cains wife? His mother or his sister?

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I believe that the writers of the New Testament use the historical Jesus as an archetype of what it means to live selflessly; to give up one's life in service to others. I believe that the theme of Jesus' life is that we are all one in living selflessly like Christ; and in truth no human can live a fulfilled solitary life. We need each other like our bodies need their various parts. So if we need each other to survive, we should serve each other just like the components of our own bodies serve the whole person.

I believe that Jesus' Christianity was ultimately inspired via Buddhist missionaries who were sent to Alexandria Egypt in the 3rd century BCE, by King Ashoka of what is now India. A Buddhist inspired sect formed in Alexandria, which was called Therapeutae 'healers' in Greek. I believe that the Essenes were an offshoot group of the Therapeutae. Jesus was an Essene. Thus the Buddhist doctrine of "no self" became the Christian doctrine of selflessness.

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Why do Christians celebrate "Christmas"? Not one mention about it on bible. (Not a surprise, since it's a Pagan celebration)

Also, Who's Cains wife? His mother or his sister?



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One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
One man celebrates the birth of Christ on December 25th, another man celebrates the birth of Christ on January 25th, what's the big deal?

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Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Why don't you quote Luke 12:33 from a REAL bible? The NIV you quote from is not a real bible, it removes/adds/changes verses so it can copyright and sell it for $$$.

It's talking about not be focus on accumulating all the wealth in the world...because it's temporary and you can't take it anywhere. Instead, focus on accumulating eternal wealth that lasts forever.

Where does the bible talk about Cain's wife?? No where. Stop going to the unbelieving world asking for their ridiculous explanations for where Cain supposedly got his wife.
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One man celebrates the birth of Christ on December 25th, another man celebrates the birth of Christ on January 25th, what's the big deal?

Why don't you quote Luke 12:33 from a REAL bible? The NIV you quote from is not a real bible, it removes/adds/changes verses so it can copyright and sell it for $$$.

It's talking about not be focus on accumulating all the wealth in the world...because it's temporary and you can't take it anywhere. Instead, focus on accumulating eternal wealth that lasts forever.

Where does the bible talk about Cain's wife?? No where. Stop going to the unbelieving world asking for their ridiculous explanations for where Cain supposedly got his wife.
"Real Bible's" are written in English? So crazy, I had no idea they spoke English 1700~ years ago when the Bible was put together 300~ years after "Jesus" died... so it's probably extremely accurate and all true!

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