Phenibut

[LittlePinkPanda]

Originally Posted by FaFaFooey

It's about 500mg

according to my scale

So, is 1 gram an effective dose to put me to sleep? I always end up taking too much because 2 scoops don't do anything but relax me and I want that coma like sleep where I don't get up for 12 hours.

[FaFaFooey]

Originally Posted by LittlePinkPanda

So, is 1 gram an effective dose to put me to sleep? I always end up taking too much because 2 scoops don't do anything but relax me and I want that coma like sleep where I don't get up for 12 hours.

Oh...I don't know. I find it very difficult to sleep while using phenibut. For me it acts as an anxiolytic and works pretty good for SP but not insomnia.

I suppose 1.5g-2g should be enough to put you out but everyone is different.

Careful not to take too much because then you get the spins(best way i can describe it)/

~back to Mulholland Dr.~

[suburbanurban]

Do not take phenibut . I became physically addictive it kicks your livers ***. The withdraws are those that can send you into an institution. Google phenibut withdraws and you will hear horror stories. I have just ended my withdraw after 7 days of thinking people were out to get me, extreme paronia my heart rate was 180 over 100 . Fortunatly i was under the care of a dr the whole time. It is scary i do not reccomend it to anyone !

[FaFaFooey]

Originally Posted by suburbanurban

Do not take phenibut . I became physically addictive it kicks your livers ***. The withdraws are those that can send you into an institution. Google phenibut withdraws and you will hear horror stories. I have just ended my withdraw after 7 days of thinking people were out to get me, extreme paronia my heart rate was 180 over 100 . Fortunatly i was under the care of a dr the whole time. It is scary i do not reccomend it to anyone !

how long was the withdrawal period?

[LittlePinkPanda]

Originally Posted by suburbanurban

Do not take phenibut . I became physically addictive it kicks your livers ***. The withdraws are those that can send you into an institution. Google phenibut withdraws and you will hear horror stories. I have just ended my withdraw after 7 days of thinking people were out to get me, extreme paronia my heart rate was 180 over 100 . Fortunatly i was under the care of a dr the whole time. It is scary i do not reccomend it to anyone !

I take 500 mg a day, every day for energy, then I take 1 gram at night. I was told that the trick is to do it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off.

[iamwhoiam]

Originally Posted by suburbanurban

Do not take phenibut . I became physically addictive it kicks your livers ***. The withdraws are those that can send you into an institution. Google phenibut withdraws and you will hear horror stories. I have just ended my withdraw after 7 days of thinking people were out to get me, extreme paronia my heart rate was 180 over 100 . Fortunatly i was under the care of a dr the whole time. It is scary i do not reccomend it to anyone !

I think a better way to phrase that would be "Do not abuse phenibut."
Most people use it in moderation (i.e. 500mg-1g just a few times per month) and have no problems at all. But yeah, if you take too much too often it will become addictive and then give you bad withdrawls when you stop.

[suburbanurban]

tru- do not abuse phenibut is probably more accurate . I must say though it is hard not too when you feel so great and then you grow an immunity to it and think "hell, ill just take another gram". pretty soon , you are shaking if you arent taking 2 g a hit.

my withdraw lasted 7 days. I am now taking kava kava root and am content on finding natural ways to heal my anxiety.

[LittlePinkPanda]

I take 500 mg every morning and have had no problems at that low of a dose.

[CameronH]

I used to take 1 gram to 1.5 grams every friday and saturday before I went out drinking, I would drink heaps but wouldn't feel extremely drunk but I would be extremely social and confident... Not sure if it is safe but I did it every weekend for months and nothing bad happened.

[CameronH]

Originally Posted by LittlePinkPanda

I take 500 mg every morning and have had no problems at that low of a dose.

Taking it every day is an extremely silly thing to do, please stop or you will get addicted.

[Nevermore82]

Just took some and made it tasted horrible, waiting for it to kick in. Have a meeting soon, will let anyone know who cares

[Nevermore82]

oh my gosh this stuff is like drinking a few beers lol I am friggin tipsy as heck

[Beamer]

Originally Posted by CameronH

Taking it every day is an extremely silly thing to do, please stop or you will get addicted.

Not to mention this stuff has a reputation for building tolerance very quickly. If you're taking a low dose daily, and not increasing it regularly over time, then you're probably wasting your money.


I stumbled on some Relax-all with phenibut at the health food store while picking up some theanine. RA has a pretty small amount of phenibut in it and around ten other active ingredients, so it's difficult for me to say exactly what the phenibut did, but after taking 4 (I think about 500mg of phenibut), I felt almost the same as I did after my first dose of gabapentin: relaxed, a tiny bit spacey, and like I was not only less afraid to talk to people, but also actually kind of wanting to.

Since this stuff seems to do what gabapentin did for about the first week of taking it, I think I'm going to use it every once in a long while - when I have to endure a job interview or participate in a particularly anxiety-inducing social engagement. I'd love to reap the benefits daily, but I don't think this can be done without increasing the dose continuously until you're hopelessly addicted.

I didn't notice any "fun" effects aside from a calm, subtle euphoria, but I took a low dose, so that's not really a surprise.

[Liquidxr]

sorry if this has been posted already, but been reading around different forums and this is what I've found

so theres two forms of phenibut, r-phenibut and s-phenibut with the s isomer doing jack-all for our purposes (if at all biologically active). Apparently most of these well known companies are selling a racemic (50:50) mix likely due to cost and a common supplier (chinese). I suspect the old crystalline phenibut was the r-phenibut, and now with the 50/50 racemic some of us need a higher dose than before. Add people who have never used phenibut before + low doses = that bunk feeling.

I've noticed nutraplanet, SNS standing by their product and assuring quality/purity, but never identifying whether they sell a racemic or the bad s form. Will look into smartpowders but their racetams didn't work for me and i've now had 2 bottles over 2 orders in which the seal was about half way off. They assured me it was due to shipping, a little suspicious... although I found their bulk ursolic acid powder to be great.

This is all speculation, definitely don't want to go and suddenly double your doses, but it might be worth ramping up to find a nice spot.

from a study comparing pharmacological activity:
S-phenibut was inactive in doses up to 500 mg/kg. In contrast, R-phenibut turned out to be two times more potent than racemic phenibut in most of the tests. In the forced swimming test, at a dose of 100 mg/kg only R-phenibut significantly decreased immobility time.

[Liquidxr]

wow just saw a comparison pic between phenibut sources in which the SNS capsules taken apart had unidentified black specs in it. I don't want to risk heavy metal poisoning at all, can't recommend the SNS product atm.

[blakeyz]

I got primaforce which was pretty expensive but a spoonful did nothing
Must be weak. It smells nice but the taste is very bitter

[blakeyz]

OK this feel **** lol
You guys like the phenibut feeling ? It defineltey crosses the bbb but I don't like this at all. I feel dizzy as ****. It would be good for sleep but I don't see how it could help anxiety at all.

[jonjacob]

I have used phenibut off and on a lot over the last few years. First used a capsuled "blend" made by Biotest called Nightime RX but has been discontinued. Lately I use the Primaforce powder, it has a convenient 300mg scooper and works well for a good price. I've never been able to recreate the few times I had an absolutely amazing effect 4-5 years ago unfortunately---and yes the withdrawals are very real and comparable to benzo wd. I actually took alprazolam 2mg/day for over 6 months and found quitting cold turkey easier than when I had been taking pheni for 3 straight weeks. The pheni wd was out of hand. Well wanted to add to the thread that imo eating a banana helps potentiate the phenibut greatly. no joke, probably due to Vitamin B6 as b6 allows the body to break down and use amino acids. Could also be the pure carb factor as well (dont mix proteins with phenibut). By this logic a B6 supplement would probably work as well or better (i actually think the Biotest had b6 and that product gave me my best experiences). Be careful with this one guys. It can really bite you in the ***, seriously take a good 3 days off inbetween doses minimum and you'll be fine but I knew that when I messed up so ya the draw to feel that good all the time is very strong so addictive personalites heed the warning

[baxman]

blakey-wait you used a spoonful!?!a teaspoon or tablespoon, either way thats wqay too much.they have a little dipper in the phenibut jar.with primaforce does at least.

[samsonites]

I've known a lot of people who have used phenibut, and not a single one got your reaction. Most people won't either.

Originally Posted by suburbanurban

Do not take phenibut . I became physically addictive it kicks your livers ***. The withdraws are those that can send you into an institution. Google phenibut withdraws and you will hear horror stories. I have just ended my withdraw after 7 days of thinking people were out to get me, extreme paronia my heart rate was 180 over 100 . Fortunatly i was under the care of a dr the whole time. It is scary i do not reccomend it to anyone !