Social Anxiety Support

DanCan · 09-15-2009, 03:29 PM

I've got pretty severe SAD, though I only found out what it was about a year ago. I always just thought I was a nervous person. I haven't worked in nearly a year now. It is easy to forget that there is anything wrong with me when I'm home, but when I go out to a store, or bump into an old friend seems I am always strongly reminded of just how debilitating this damn thing is. And then I slip back into a depression. I get angry. Angry at my family. Angry at God. Angry at anyone my mind can point itself at.
In these dark pits I often find myself in, my mind constantly turns to one thought. Rob a bank and run to Mexico. I'm not saying that im GOING to, but it's kind of like the PLAN B. You know, after I've tried everything there is to try and I still have SAD, then I like to think that I can just Rob a Bank and run to mexico. I figure I'm a little smarter than the average joe. I should be able to plan something out with pretty decent odds of success.
So Im just wondering. Does anyone else ever have thoughts like this? Or even better. Has anyone come up with any good plans?

Still Waters · 09-15-2009, 03:31 PM

Can you imagine how bad your SA would be in prison??!!??

Curb · 09-15-2009, 03:35 PM

What are you going to do in Mexico? I'd go to Canada.

britisharrow · 09-15-2009, 04:36 PM

Yes I do have thoughts like this. And it could be worse, you could have turned out one of those ****ed up screwballs who takes his social anxiety and lonliness out on other people by shooting everybody. In comparison to that, robbing a bank as long as you don't harm anyone I'd sit down with you at the prison table and talk to you.

I do have thoughts like the ones you suggest, also funnily enough to rob a bank, it would get me money but it would also inject a feeling of 'meaning something' to others, that I don't feel in an ordinary day. Sometimes I think, okay let's have some fun.

Problem is I'd undoubtedly get caught and spend a long time in prison, and come out ten years later with the same problems I had in the first place, plus a criminal record.

Tempting though.

DanCan · 09-15-2009, 05:50 PM

You know I think the hardest thing for me is to know my friends are still hanging out and doing things. I see my family going places. But here I am, stuck. I quit a dream job that paid incredible money. I've watched my SAD chase away three awesome girlfriends over the past few years. I have a hard time eating dinner with my own family. I just get angry. Feel so cheated on life. MMM.. Does anyone else feel helpless against this thing? If you corner a dog it's probably gonna bite. Thats how I feel. Just feel so cornered, and I'm tired of feeling helpless to change my situation. Tired of being nervous all the time.

britisharrow · 09-15-2009, 06:00 PM

Would it help to write these feelings down and send them in a letter to your doctor.

I don't undertand how the system works in America. In the UK, there is a degree of communication between doctor and patient, where you can send him a letter, or pass a message to him on the phone saying that you want to see him about bad thoughts you are having. Your doctor should then get back to you.

We also have the NHS Crisis Team, which is the government run agency who will speak to you in times of crisis. You phone them up and they'll arrange to meet you as a matter of urgency. Do you have anything like that in the USA? If you do then use it, research all avenues, find out from your doctor what he's not understanding and what you're not communicating to him that's causing this period of stalling.

You need to be persistant with these people, need to keep knocking on the door. What options are there, there must be some?

contranigma · 09-15-2009, 10:11 PM

Yeah, I have thoughts like this too. Not to rob a bank, but I daydream things that are rather unrealistic, but maybe slightly more realistic than robbing a bank. Mostly to be a self-sufficient hermit living in the desert. And to have sex with a lot of prositutes.

Wouldn't it be hard to rob a bank with SA? You would have to yell at people and demand them to do things and point a gun at them. That is, unless you had a REALLY good plan that involved nobody even realizing it happened.

epril · 09-15-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by contranigma

Yeah, I have thoughts like this too. Not to rob a bank, but I daydream things that are rather unrealistic, but maybe slightly more realistic than robbing a bank. Mostly to be a self-sufficient hermit living in the desert. And to have sex with a lot of prositutes.

Wouldn't it be hard to rob a bank with SA? You would have to yell at people and demand them to do things and point a gun at them. That is, unless you had a REALLY good plan that involved nobody even realizing it happened.

Robbing a bank is perfect for people with SA. Just put a ski mask on, sunglasses, you don't have to yell, just walk quietly up to the teller, don't even have to talk, just have a note ready, and then quietly sneak out of the bank. Yep, sounds like a typical SA day.

Freak · 09-16-2009, 12:03 AM

I think I know how you feel - seeing an old Colleague realy sets me off
Anyway im in - how can someone judge this situation morally but I want to go to Brazil

sanspants08 · 09-16-2009, 01:41 AM

Having just had my criminal record expunged, I think I'll sit this one out xD.

But seriously, robbing banks seems pretty tough and complicated. It would be way more interesting to be art thief, working on commission, and you wouldn't have to deal with bank security.

Personally, I'd opt for car boosting, Gone-In-60-Seconds style.

Hypothetically speaking, of course

.

Song from 1996 about robbing banks and running to Mexico:

socially inept · 09-16-2009, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DanCan

I've got pretty severe SAD, though I only found out what it was about a year ago. I always just thought I was a nervous person. I haven't worked in nearly a year now. It is easy to forget that there is anything wrong with me when I'm home, but when I go out to a store, or bump into an old friend seems I am always strongly reminded of just how debilitating this damn thing is. And then I slip back into a depression. I get angry. Angry at my family. Angry at God. Angry at anyone my mind can point itself at.
In these dark pits I often find myself in, my mind constantly turns to one thought. Rob a bank and run to Mexico. I'm not saying that im GOING to, but it's kind of like the PLAN B. You know, after I've tried everything there is to try and I still have SAD, then I like to think that I can just Rob a Bank and run to mexico. I figure I'm a little smarter than the average joe. I should be able to plan something out with pretty decent odds of success.
So Im just wondering. Does anyone else ever have thoughts like this? Or even better. Has anyone come up with any good plans?

you say youve tried everything there is to try to beat SA. i doubt it though.

before you give up on SA and decided to risk your future by robbing a bank why dont you have another go at overcoming SA.

im convinced i have the holy grail SA treatment plan. go on the social anxiety uk website , sauk thingy and searcht he forum for a thread titled ''how to overcome SA step by step'' written by david mckenna. uk phobe might have a link to it, pm him if ya like .

if that doesnt work then i dont think anything will . so why dont you try that first and if it doesnt work then rob a bank. but dont go risking your future until you really have tried everything you can to beat sa

bentobox · 09-16-2009, 06:52 AM

Imagine how bad your SA would be in a country where you didn't speak the language.

I have always thought of picking up and going, problem is my biggest problem, my own head, always seems to follow me around.

DanCan · 09-16-2009, 08:53 AM

Soc Inept. What is this program? Has it worked for you?

DanCan · 09-16-2009, 08:55 AM

Epril youre absolutely right! The only difference between a normal trip to the bank or store and this one will be the candy bar in my coat pocket pointed forward! what a way to live huh?

socially inept · 09-16-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DanCan

Soc Inept. What is this program? Has it worked for you?

its a programme that i have created myself by combining cbt, nlp, hypnosis, thinkrightnow and kabbalah together. it cures SA at the root permanently . my programme gives you clear step by step instructions to follow .

basically it involves changing limiting beleifs on an unconcious level using hypnosis, nlp, kabbalah and thinkrightnow. keeping your automatic thoughts in check with reality and controlling your state in any given moment by using cbt and nlp techniques. and chaning behaviour by using step by step exposure therapy, nlp techniqures for developing new behaviour , a 21 day habit creator and a kabbalostic tool called the proactive formula,

_AJ_ · 09-16-2009, 02:48 PM

sounds like a good idea!

you'd run out of money eventually, so you'd have to make a regular trip back to rob another

mind_games · 09-16-2009, 05:56 PM

Ok I'm in too.

Just Lurking · 09-16-2009, 07:38 PM

The most you'd get from your run-of-the-mill bank robbery is a couple thousand dollars (and that's pushing it). That won't last you too long in another country and certainly won't go far in bribing law enforcement.

mind_games · 09-16-2009, 08:13 PM

Clearly you have an acute understanding of how things fall into place in teh bigger picture. You can be the planner of this operation.

DanCan · 09-16-2009, 09:32 PM

Yeah I figure Id need around 500K to live off rest of my life. I could invest a good part to keep it going. They gotta have something close to that in the vault 'JL'. Dont you think?
If not, you're right and it wouldnt be worth it. If you had to rob a bank once a month the odds would be stacked. Hmm.. maybe SansPants is on to something. All I know guys is that goin to a regular job is just too damn difficult right now. Sure I dont WANT to rob a bank. All i want is to be able to function like a normal person at work, and pay my bills. But that's not possible for me.
I'm currently trying hypnotherapy. Today was my second session. Has anyone else tried this route?

09-15-2009, 03:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
DanCan Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Gender: Male Posts: 55	Rob a bank and Run to Mexico I've got pretty severe SAD, though I only found out what it was about a year ago. I always just thought I was a nervous person. I haven't worked in nearly a year now. It is easy to forget that there is anything wrong with me when I'm home, but when I go out to a store, or bump into an old friend seems I am always strongly reminded of just how debilitating this damn thing is. And then I slip back into a depression. I get angry. Angry at my family. Angry at God. Angry at anyone my mind can point itself at. In these dark pits I often find myself in, my mind constantly turns to one thought. Rob a bank and run to Mexico. I'm not saying that im GOING to, but it's kind of like the PLAN B. You know, after I've tried everything there is to try and I still have SAD, then I like to think that I can just Rob a Bank and run to mexico. I figure I'm a little smarter than the average joe. I should be able to plan something out with pretty decent odds of success. So Im just wondering. Does anyone else ever have thoughts like this? Or even better. Has anyone come up with any good plans?

09-15-2009, 03:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Still Waters Status: Lost And Unaccounted For Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stuck in the Lost and Found Gender: Female Posts: 668	Can you imagine how bad your SA would be in prison??!!?? __________________ I knew a man who lived in fear It was huge,it was angry,it was drawing near Behind his house,a secret place Was the shadow of the demon he could never face. He tells the world that it's sleeping But as the night came 'round I heard it's lonely sound It wasn't roaring,it was weeping. - Weeping - Josh Groban

09-16-2009, 08:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
DanCan Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Gender: Male Posts: 55	Sauk ? Soc Inept. What is this program? Has it worked for you?

09-16-2009, 02:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
_AJ_ Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 734	sounds like a good idea! you'd run out of money eventually, so you'd have to make a regular trip back to rob another __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear, it is the decision to act in spite of it.

09-16-2009, 05:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
mind_games Status: dances, like a fridge Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 1,570	Ok I'm in too. __________________ "this is not me, this is me reacting to your perception of me"

09-15-2009, 03:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Curb Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 73	What are you going to do in Mexico? I'd go to Canada.

09-15-2009, 04:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
britisharrow Status: 3rd SAS Battalion Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow, UK Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 455	Yes I do have thoughts like this. And it could be worse, you could have turned out one of those ****ed up screwballs who takes his social anxiety and lonliness out on other people by shooting everybody. In comparison to that, robbing a bank as long as you don't harm anyone I'd sit down with you at the prison table and talk to you. I do have thoughts like the ones you suggest, also funnily enough to rob a bank, it would get me money but it would also inject a feeling of 'meaning something' to others, that I don't feel in an ordinary day. Sometimes I think, okay let's have some fun. Problem is I'd undoubtedly get caught and spend a long time in prison, and come out ten years later with the same problems I had in the first place, plus a criminal record. Tempting though.

09-15-2009, 05:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
DanCan Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Gender: Male Posts: 55	You know I think the hardest thing for me is to know my friends are still hanging out and doing things. I see my family going places. But here I am, stuck. I quit a dream job that paid incredible money. I've watched my SAD chase away three awesome girlfriends over the past few years. I have a hard time eating dinner with my own family. I just get angry. Feel so cheated on life. MMM.. Does anyone else feel helpless against this thing? If you corner a dog it's probably gonna bite. Thats how I feel. Just feel so cornered, and I'm tired of feeling helpless to change my situation. Tired of being nervous all the time.

09-15-2009, 06:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
britisharrow Status: 3rd SAS Battalion Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow, UK Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 455	Would it help to write these feelings down and send them in a letter to your doctor. I don't undertand how the system works in America. In the UK, there is a degree of communication between doctor and patient, where you can send him a letter, or pass a message to him on the phone saying that you want to see him about bad thoughts you are having. Your doctor should then get back to you. We also have the NHS Crisis Team, which is the government run agency who will speak to you in times of crisis. You phone them up and they'll arrange to meet you as a matter of urgency. Do you have anything like that in the USA? If you do then use it, research all avenues, find out from your doctor what he's not understanding and what you're not communicating to him that's causing this period of stalling. You need to be persistant with these people, need to keep knocking on the door. What options are there, there must be some?

09-15-2009, 10:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
contranigma Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Midwest Gender: Male Posts: 169	Yeah, I have thoughts like this too. Not to rob a bank, but I daydream things that are rather unrealistic, but maybe slightly more realistic than robbing a bank. Mostly to be a self-sufficient hermit living in the desert. And to have sex with a lot of prositutes. Wouldn't it be hard to rob a bank with SA? You would have to yell at people and demand them to do things and point a gun at them. That is, unless you had a REALLY good plan that involved nobody even realizing it happened.

09-16-2009, 12:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Freak Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 23	I think I know how you feel - seeing an old Colleague realy sets me off Anyway im in - how can someone judge this situation morally but I want to go to Brazil

09-16-2009, 01:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
sanspants08 Status: Has Ramen Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: York, PA/Gettysburg, PA Gender: Male Posts: 857	Having just had my criminal record expunged, I think I'll sit this one out xD. But seriously, robbing banks seems pretty tough and complicated. It would be way more interesting to be art thief, working on commission, and you wouldn't have to deal with bank security. Personally, I'd opt for car boosting, Gone-In-60-Seconds style. Hypothetically speaking, of course . Song from 1996 about robbing banks and running to Mexico:

09-16-2009, 06:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
bentobox Status: SAS Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9	Imagine how bad your SA would be in a country where you didn't speak the language. I have always thought of picking up and going, problem is my biggest problem, my own head, always seems to follow me around.

09-16-2009, 08:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
DanCan Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Gender: Male Posts: 55	Epril youre absolutely right! The only difference between a normal trip to the bank or store and this one will be the candy bar in my coat pocket pointed forward! what a way to live huh?

09-16-2009, 07:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
Just Lurking Status: Student.. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Male Posts: 2,852	The most you'd get from your run-of-the-mill bank robbery is a couple thousand dollars (and that's pushing it). That won't last you too long in another country and certainly won't go far in bribing law enforcement. __________________ "The psychiatrist says, 'I think you're crazy.' The man says, 'I want a second opinion.' The psychiatrist says, 'Okay, you're ugly, too!'" ~Henny Youngman

09-16-2009, 08:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
mind_games Status: dances, like a fridge Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 1,570	Clearly you have an acute understanding of how things fall into place in teh bigger picture. You can be the planner of this operation. __________________ "this is not me, this is me reacting to your perception of me"

09-16-2009, 09:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
DanCan Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Gender: Male Posts: 55	Yeah I figure Id need around 500K to live off rest of my life. I could invest a good part to keep it going. They gotta have something close to that in the vault 'JL'. Dont you think? If not, you're right and it wouldnt be worth it. If you had to rob a bank once a month the odds would be stacked. Hmm.. maybe SansPants is on to something. All I know guys is that goin to a regular job is just too damn difficult right now. Sure I dont WANT to rob a bank. All i want is to be able to function like a normal person at work, and pay my bills. But that's not possible for me. I'm currently trying hypnotherapy. Today was my second session. Has anyone else tried this route?