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SandM1827 · 11-05-2009, 04:28 PM

It almost seems like a fad, teenagers barely out of puberty having a child of their own. With every form of birth control afford teenager pregnancy should not be on the rise. There are about three groups for these teenagers ones who try to get pregnant, ones who dont care if they get pregnant, and ones who use protective methods but still end up pregnant.

I was on my way home from volunteering at the hospital today, I was on the bus and this fifteen year old girl and her twenty-five year old boyfriend were talking, loudly, she was saying that she was pregnant and that she was going to over dose on her mothers medication to induce a miscarriage, her boyfriend told her no, but her friends goes "don't worry I'll stay with her to make sure she doesn't die." - Other then the whole problem with the scenario she's got cooked up, they all acted as if it were no big deal, the pregnancy or the overdose. Most of us on the bus that could hear them all pulled out our phones to either call the police or 911 because the girl was popping pill after pill on the bus and she was a danger to herself, one person did call the police but I don't know what happened.

Ok I delete the part about the shot because even I think its wrong. But people should wait until they are in a stable place in life, emotionally and finacially to have children. Twenty-four is just about the mature age, your out of high school, out of college, depending on your major, twenty-one is behind you so your probably done barhopping every night and you should be somewhere steady in your financial situation or pretty close to it.

I am in no way bashing teenage parents, my sister has three children and she started at 17. I'm just upset by how some teenagers act like it is not a life changing decision to get pregnant. And that the girl above didn't take proper measures (like going to a clinic/doctor) to figure her situation out.

Currently, all's kids learn about sex, from school at least, is about abstinence, if they taught the kids more about birth control and condoms and everything else then maybe the kids would be more inclined to use protection, it could make all the difference. I think the county I live in is trying to pass a bill where the health teachers can teach kids about things other then abstinence.

(yes I know its very long and I apologize, but that girl on the bus really upset me so I thought I'd rant a bit)

IcedOver · 11-05-2009, 06:09 PM

I agree with you, it's frustrating. The majority of my co-workers are black and minorities are the majority in terms of kids having kids. I know that's not the most politically correct thing to say but I think in today's namby pamby society we're allowing political correctness to prevent discussions of real problems such as this. We sometimes hire high school kids and it's the rare occasion when one of them doesn't have a kid or two. Just today my manager was talking about her daughter, 21, who used to work with us and who had a kid a few years ago and just had another one a couple months ago, both illegitimately. She was struggling to support the first and now the problem is doubled.

And walking through the downtown area it's a common thing to find young girls who look no more than 16 with one kid in a harness on the chest and one in a stroller. What causes this is poor access to birth control, boys who don't want to wear condoms, boys who want to "keep" a girl by getting her pregnant (but who end up dumping her after she's had the kid) and girls who are just lazy and want to live off the government's money. I think a good solution would be to limit the amount of welfare and similar help that new lower-income or no-income teen moms can receive. I think a lot of these kids believe that, since much of their needs will be paid for by hand-outs, having a kid isn't that big of a deal. Cutting it back might make them reconsider their decisions and cause them to be more careful. Or maybe your idea of a shot is better!

iwannabecoolplzhelp · 11-05-2009, 06:10 PM

OK FIRST OFF

AT LEAST U HAD SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are guys on this forum in their mid 20s who never even had sex yet!!!!! fORGET ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT BEING A PROBLEM, MANY GUYS WITH SA HAVE A PROBLEM EVEN GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE SOMEONE COULD GET PREGNANT.

shyvr6 · 11-05-2009, 06:33 PM

iwannabecool, yes, it's a problem with sa guys AND girls not experiencing sex, but what you're saying has nothing to do with what she is talking about. If you wanna change the subject to that then you should make your own thread about it.

Yes, I agree about babies having babies, but I don't agree about that shot you're talking about.

SandM1827 · 11-05-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shyvr6

Yes, I agree about babies having babies, but I don't agree about that shot you're talking about.

Yeah the shot is...wrong on a lot of levels but like I said it'll never happen. At best I think kids just need to be taught in school about the preventive measures of pregnancy, instead of just abstinence, which I believe is on a ballot here in Washington. And thank you for what you said to the poster above you about changing the subject.

I apologize if this upset anyone for any reason, whether it be they've never had sex or not, but I posted it about the rise in teen pregnancy, not to disrespect anyone.

Iced Soul · 11-05-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by iwannabecoolplzhelp

OK FIRST OFF

AT LEAST U HAD SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are guys on this forum in their mid 20s who never even had sex yet!!!!! fORGET ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT BEING A PROBLEM, MANY GUYS WITH SA HAVE A PROBLEM EVEN GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE SOMEONE COULD GET PREGNANT.

Wow, calm down. Having sex or not having sex, or having the chance to have it, doesn't seem to be the issue.

I don't really agree with the shot. While I think it's definitely better to hold off on having children until after you've become relatively stable, I don't think it's anyone's right to take away the ability to have children before age 24 or any age.
I think better sexual education (I'm not sure how it is these days, but when I was in school, we were told the barest facts and that didn't even seem to cover much, plus half the parents didn't want their kids learning anyway, yet they didn't teach them at home either) would do wonders. Of course, it wouldn't stop people from having sex and getting pregnant, but, hopefully, if people know more about what they are doing and their choices they wouldn't get into 'trouble'.

It is quite frustrating to see teens with kids, though. Mainly, because more than half of them don't have the slightest clue what to do and aren't ready to care for another living person. The bus episode tells me that much about that one teen mother and her boyfriend.

shyvr6 · 11-05-2009, 06:46 PM

Oh, and I hope someone did call the police on that girl on the bus if she really was popping pills to get rid of a baby.

malone · 11-05-2009, 06:53 PM

But the sad thing is that these kids DO get sex ed. I was fourteen at school and we had to bring a form home to our parents to sign saying that they gave us permission to take such a class.

They taught us about all of the basic methods of contraception and all about sex. Of course, it wasn't as detailed as when I took human biol in year 11 - I had to give a oral presentation about condoms. Hahaha.

The sad thing is that these kids are getting younger and younger. Girls as young as 11-12 having sex ! So now how young are they meant to be to have sex ed - 9 or 10?!
Back when I was at that age getting kissed was a HUGE deal, but now it's nothing compared to what the younger generations are doing.

It is SO sad to see children having children. But I think another part of the responsibility are the parents. The parents have to build a good relationship with their children, so at least if - heaven forbid - their 14 year old IS having sex, they're comfortable enough to tell the parent so they can be taught about birth control if they don't know about it already.

I don't know, these kids are so messed up now. I read an article about 9 year olds smoking marijuana at school.

SandM1827 · 11-05-2009, 06:58 PM

Alright so I posted this when I was angry about the girl on the bus and I think about it now and yes the shot would be a very bad idea - on so many levels.

If kids had better access to information on contraceptives, the pill, condom etc, then maybe they'd be more inclined to use them? But the government doesn't seem to believe we should talk to children those, only abstinence.

Iced Soul · 11-05-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SandM1827

Alright so I posted this when I was angry about the girl on the bus and I think about it now and yes the shot would be a very bad idea - on so many levels.

If kids had better access to information on contraceptives, the pill, condom etc, then maybe they'd be more inclined to use them? But the government doesn't seem to believe we should talk to children those, only abstinence.

That's one of the problems. People think kids/teens still need to be sheltered from so many things, when most of them know much, much more than we did at their ages. Even if they don't know, it's best they be prepared with how fast kids seem to be growing up these days.
Better teaching is one step that might help. Better relationships with parents also might help. I'm sure there are plenty of kids/teens out there much more willing to get bad/wrong information from their friends/internet/movies/etc rather than face asking their parents. Either because of embarrassment or because the parents have made it seem impossible to talk to them about anything.

EagerMinnow84 · 11-05-2009, 08:06 PM

There were some girls in my high school that had babies, one being only in Sophomore year. Sex Ed classes only talked about abstinence, perhaps because I went to a Catholic school. It obviously doesn't work.

Havalina · 11-05-2009, 08:12 PM

Last week (I'm talking late October in Canada), I saw a girl (15ish) waiting outside at a bus stop as I was stopped at a red light. She had little baby in a buggy with NO hat on and she was puffing away on a cigarette (btw the mom was completely bundled up herself, hat with a hood over top). I was so replused. If the light lasted longer, I would have started to scream out my window at her. This thread reminded me of that.

I hate bad parents, whatever the age.

strawberryjulius · 11-05-2009, 08:13 PM

i went to an anglican school and we were taught sex education - quite a few times, actually. maybe it's different down here.

edit: but i do remember being told that abstinence is the only birth control that's 100% safe, haha.

TATA · 11-05-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shyvr6

Oh, and I hope someone did call the police on that girl on the bus if she really was popping pills to get rid of a baby.

couldn't she go to an abortion clinic? They should give out information in school for counseling, clinics, etc.

SandM1827 · 11-05-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TATA

couldn't she go to an abortion clinic? They should give out information in school for counseling, clinics, etc.

They don't give that sort of information out in school, its illegal. It would have been a lot safer, to go to a clinic, that would be the logical but she was either to afraid to go or just thought this was an easier way, I don't know, it would have to do with her situation, but she seemed very calm about the whole situation, she could have been in shock, but I don't know.

millenniumman75 · 11-05-2009, 08:44 PM

***Thread Lock Watch***
I am issuing it now and asking questions later.
People having babies to hold a relationship together is stupid. Inducing an abortion with medicational overdose is more stupid. If we learned to respect ourselves more, a lot of this would not be happening. Just make sure you do the right thing and pass GOOD VALUES to your kids.

Mr. Frostie · 11-05-2009, 10:37 PM

As with most modern societal ills, I believe the baby boomer generation is at fault. It started with the "sexual revolution" in the 1960s and its been a slippery slope downhill since then. Society's undesirables are reproducing at a higher rate than the rest of us. Its backwards evolution. Within a few hundred years the human race will devolve back into apes.

R.I.P. Western civilization. We had a good 3000 or so year run.

secretlyshecries · 11-05-2009, 11:44 PM

Mm, completely agree. In my town it's sort of really common for girls to get pregnant at a young age. I'll often see people I knew at school walking around with either a big belly or a baby/child. I know that they'd be about 20 now, assuming they're my age, but that's still pretty young to be having kids. No offense to anyone, it's just my opinon. I mean, how much have you lived by age 20 to have to give up your life to become a mother full-time? That said, I'm sure there are people who are ready to be mothers at that age but the irresponsible types who just want to party and be young shouldn't be having kids. But yeah, a lot of them get pregnant in their teens. One of my formerly really close friends got pregnant soon after I dropped out of school. It was shocking to hear about because when I had known her, she'd been a smart, level-headed girl. Though I did talk to her once on the phone one time (before she got pregnant) and she was talking about sleeping around while she had a boyfriend and all this stuff that basically made me want to avoid her at all costs from then on. The crazy thing is, her mother used to not like me because she seemed to think I was some sort of bad influence.

And yet, I'm pretty sure its got a lot to do with the mother's crappy parenting skills because my friend isn't the only one who got pregnant-- her sister did too.

Haydsmom2007 · 11-06-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iwannabecoolplzhelp

OK FIRST OFF

AT LEAST U HAD SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are guys on this forum in their mid 20s who never even had sex yet!!!!! fORGET ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT BEING A PROBLEM, MANY GUYS WITH SA HAVE A PROBLEM EVEN GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE SOMEONE COULD GET PREGNANT.

wtf?? that's totally irrelevant...

Haydsmom2007 · 11-06-2009, 12:32 PM

But yeah, that's sad. I got pregnant when I was 17, though. I don't take offense to your post, I'm very proud of myself for where I've gotten in life since then.

But I do have a friend who got pregnant ON PURPOSE when she was 16 because she just wanted a baby regardless of whether she could afford one or not. I like her a lot, she's mature now, she's a good mom, responsible, (she's 21 now btw) but yeah. that was so dumb of her. She's lucky her parents cared enough to help her. They pay for her daycare and give her extra money each month while she finishes school. Lots of teens get pregnant for that very reason. To have someone that will always love them and to have someone to take care of.

11-05-2009, 04:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
SandM1827 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Washington Gender: Female Age: 19 Posts: 208	Babies Having Babies It almost seems like a fad, teenagers barely out of puberty having a child of their own. With every form of birth control afford teenager pregnancy should not be on the rise. There are about three groups for these teenagers ones who try to get pregnant, ones who dont care if they get pregnant, and ones who use protective methods but still end up pregnant. I was on my way home from volunteering at the hospital today, I was on the bus and this fifteen year old girl and her twenty-five year old boyfriend were talking, loudly, she was saying that she was pregnant and that she was going to over dose on her mothers medication to induce a miscarriage, her boyfriend told her no, but her friends goes "don't worry I'll stay with her to make sure she doesn't die." - Other then the whole problem with the scenario she's got cooked up, they all acted as if it were no big deal, the pregnancy or the overdose. Most of us on the bus that could hear them all pulled out our phones to either call the police or 911 because the girl was popping pill after pill on the bus and she was a danger to herself, one person did call the police but I don't know what happened. Ok I delete the part about the shot because even I think its wrong. But people should wait until they are in a stable place in life, emotionally and finacially to have children. Twenty-four is just about the mature age, your out of high school, out of college, depending on your major, twenty-one is behind you so your probably done barhopping every night and you should be somewhere steady in your financial situation or pretty close to it. I am in no way bashing teenage parents, my sister has three children and she started at 17. I'm just upset by how some teenagers act like it is not a life changing decision to get pregnant. And that the girl above didn't take proper measures (like going to a clinic/doctor) to figure her situation out. Currently, all's kids learn about sex, from school at least, is about abstinence, if they taught the kids more about birth control and condoms and everything else then maybe the kids would be more inclined to use protection, it could make all the difference. I think the county I live in is trying to pass a bill where the health teachers can teach kids about things other then abstinence. (yes I know its very long and I apologize, but that girl on the bus really upset me so I thought I'd rant a bit) __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/SandM1827 http://www.myspace.com/sandm1928 http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/de...ayer=SandM2718

11-05-2009, 06:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
shyvr6 Status: Makin Waves Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere on a map. Gender: Male Posts: 9,645	iwannabecool, yes, it's a problem with sa guys AND girls not experiencing sex, but what you're saying has nothing to do with what she is talking about. If you wanna change the subject to that then you should make your own thread about it. Yes, I agree about babies having babies, but I don't agree about that shot you're talking about. __________________ Music

11-05-2009, 06:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
shyvr6 Status: Makin Waves Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere on a map. Gender: Male Posts: 9,645	Oh, and I hope someone did call the police on that girl on the bus if she really was popping pills to get rid of a baby. __________________ Music

11-05-2009, 06:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
SandM1827 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Washington Gender: Female Age: 19 Posts: 208	Alright so I posted this when I was angry about the girl on the bus and I think about it now and yes the shot would be a very bad idea - on so many levels. If kids had better access to information on contraceptives, the pill, condom etc, then maybe they'd be more inclined to use them? But the government doesn't seem to believe we should talk to children those, only abstinence. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/SandM1827 http://www.myspace.com/sandm1928 http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/de...ayer=SandM2718

11-05-2009, 08:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
EagerMinnow84 Status: Living in Technicolor Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dancing with Gene Kelly Gender: Female Posts: 1,189	There were some girls in my high school that had babies, one being only in Sophomore year. Sex Ed classes only talked about abstinence, perhaps because I went to a Catholic school. It obviously doesn't work. __________________ I don't know, I kind of like him. He's the exact opposite of everything I really hate. In a way, he's such a clueless dork, he's almost kind of cool

11-05-2009, 06:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
IcedOver Status: SAS Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Gender: Male Age: 33 Posts: 484	I agree with you, it's frustrating. The majority of my co-workers are black and minorities are the majority in terms of kids having kids. I know that's not the most politically correct thing to say but I think in today's namby pamby society we're allowing political correctness to prevent discussions of real problems such as this. We sometimes hire high school kids and it's the rare occasion when one of them doesn't have a kid or two. Just today my manager was talking about her daughter, 21, who used to work with us and who had a kid a few years ago and just had another one a couple months ago, both illegitimately. She was struggling to support the first and now the problem is doubled. And walking through the downtown area it's a common thing to find young girls who look no more than 16 with one kid in a harness on the chest and one in a stroller. What causes this is poor access to birth control, boys who don't want to wear condoms, boys who want to "keep" a girl by getting her pregnant (but who end up dumping her after she's had the kid) and girls who are just lazy and want to live off the government's money. I think a good solution would be to limit the amount of welfare and similar help that new lower-income or no-income teen moms can receive. I think a lot of these kids believe that, since much of their needs will be paid for by hand-outs, having a kid isn't that big of a deal. Cutting it back might make them reconsider their decisions and cause them to be more careful. Or maybe your idea of a shot is better!

11-05-2009, 06:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
iwannabecoolplzhelp Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 132	OK FIRST OFF AT LEAST U HAD SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are guys on this forum in their mid 20s who never even had sex yet!!!!! fORGET ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT BEING A PROBLEM, MANY GUYS WITH SA HAVE A PROBLEM EVEN GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE SOMEONE COULD GET PREGNANT.

11-05-2009, 06:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
malone Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Australia Gender: Female Posts: 60	But the sad thing is that these kids DO get sex ed. I was fourteen at school and we had to bring a form home to our parents to sign saying that they gave us permission to take such a class. They taught us about all of the basic methods of contraception and all about sex. Of course, it wasn't as detailed as when I took human biol in year 11 - I had to give a oral presentation about condoms. Hahaha. The sad thing is that these kids are getting younger and younger. Girls as young as 11-12 having sex ! So now how young are they meant to be to have sex ed - 9 or 10?! Back when I was at that age getting kissed was a HUGE deal, but now it's nothing compared to what the younger generations are doing. It is SO sad to see children having children. But I think another part of the responsibility are the parents. The parents have to build a good relationship with their children, so at least if - heaven forbid - their 14 year old IS having sex, they're comfortable enough to tell the parent so they can be taught about birth control if they don't know about it already. I don't know, these kids are so messed up now. I read an article about 9 year olds smoking marijuana at school.

11-05-2009, 08:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Havalina Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Niagara Falls Gender: Female Age: 24 Posts: 426	Last week (I'm talking late October in Canada), I saw a girl (15ish) waiting outside at a bus stop as I was stopped at a red light. She had little baby in a buggy with NO hat on and she was puffing away on a cigarette (btw the mom was completely bundled up herself, hat with a hood over top). I was so replused. If the light lasted longer, I would have started to scream out my window at her. This thread reminded me of that. I hate bad parents, whatever the age.

11-05-2009, 08:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
strawberryjulius Status: ^_^ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Gender: Female Age: 18 Posts: 1,568	i went to an anglican school and we were taught sex education - quite a few times, actually. maybe it's different down here. edit: but i do remember being told that abstinence is the only birth control that's 100% safe, haha. __________________ Last.fm▪Anime "And if you've been let down, it might not be the last time. Cheer up, it will hurt much less tomorrow. We're all tired of **ing up and that's not just being sorry. It means brush the dirt off, get up and try again." NaNoWriMo Word Count: 470/50,000**

11-05-2009, 08:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
millenniumman75 Status: Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dayton-Cincinnati, OH Gender: Male Age: 34 Posts: 38,628	*Thread Lock Watch* I am issuing it now and asking questions later. People having babies to hold a relationship together is stupid. Inducing an abortion with medicational overdose is more stupid. If we learned to respect ourselves more, a lot of this would not be happening. Just make sure you do the right thing and pass GOOD VALUES to your kids. __________________ millenniumman75 You are a success story waiting to happen! Live and let live VACUUMS more than a Hoover.... Live and HELP live is better!

11-05-2009, 10:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mr. Frostie Status: Frostie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 708	As with most modern societal ills, I believe the baby boomer generation is at fault. It started with the "sexual revolution" in the 1960s and its been a slippery slope downhill since then. Society's undesirables are reproducing at a higher rate than the rest of us. Its backwards evolution. Within a few hundred years the human race will devolve back into apes. R.I.P. Western civilization. We had a good 3000 or so year run.

11-05-2009, 11:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
secretlyshecries Status: In hiding Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia, hiding under a rock somewhere Gender: Female Age: 20 Posts: 569	Mm, completely agree. In my town it's sort of really common for girls to get pregnant at a young age. I'll often see people I knew at school walking around with either a big belly or a baby/child. I know that they'd be about 20 now, assuming they're my age, but that's still pretty young to be having kids. No offense to anyone, it's just my opinon. I mean, how much have you lived by age 20 to have to give up your life to become a mother full-time? That said, I'm sure there are people who are ready to be mothers at that age but the irresponsible types who just want to party and be young shouldn't be having kids. But yeah, a lot of them get pregnant in their teens. One of my formerly really close friends got pregnant soon after I dropped out of school. It was shocking to hear about because when I had known her, she'd been a smart, level-headed girl. Though I did talk to her once on the phone one time (before she got pregnant) and she was talking about sleeping around while she had a boyfriend and all this stuff that basically made me want to avoid her at all costs from then on. The crazy thing is, her mother used to not like me because she seemed to think I was some sort of bad influence. And yet, I'm pretty sure its got a lot to do with the mother's crappy parenting skills because my friend isn't the only one who got pregnant-- her sister did too.

11-06-2009, 12:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
Haydsmom2007 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kansas City Gender: Female Age: 20 Posts: 198	But yeah, that's sad. I got pregnant when I was 17, though. I don't take offense to your post, I'm very proud of myself for where I've gotten in life since then. But I do have a friend who got pregnant ON PURPOSE when she was 16 because she just wanted a baby regardless of whether she could afford one or not. I like her a lot, she's mature now, she's a good mom, responsible, (she's 21 now btw) but yeah. that was so dumb of her. She's lucky her parents cared enough to help her. They pay for her daycare and give her extra money each month while she finishes school. Lots of teens get pregnant for that very reason. To have someone that will always love them and to have someone to take care of.