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filledwithfear1 · 10-07-2009, 09:25 PM

Anyway, I was talking to someone about it, and now I'm worried...

drealm · 10-07-2009, 09:32 PM

With sexual relativism being the new norm I'd wager the statistics are higher for both your average man and woman to have some STD.

There's no going back.

filledwithfear1 · 10-07-2009, 09:33 PM

I know, it sucks...

Phibes · 10-07-2009, 10:30 PM

That's why you grab them when they're young rofl... before they have a chance to get infected LOL.

Now if you're young and they're young that's fine but I don't approve of old animals trying to molest young boys & girls like in the picture below.

filledwithfear1 · 10-07-2009, 10:36 PM

Actually I'm only 21. And I'm waiting till I'm married for sex..

dan14 · 10-07-2009, 10:51 PM

Just wear a condom mate

Iced Soul · 10-07-2009, 10:56 PM

It seems like it might be hard, but I'm sure there are girls out there without them.
I was actually wondering the same thing, but only with guys.

TheDaffodil · 10-07-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dan14

Just wear a condom mate

If I were a guy, I'd wear 2 or 3 even if the girl told me she was clean. 1) People lie. 2) There are a good number of people who have STDs and don't even know it (or are too afraid to admit to themselves that anything is wrong).

You just have to find the virgins. *raises hand* I am proof that they do still exist and in enough number to find one you'll want to take that step with. That's what I would do. Sucks for the sexually active because I'd be awesome in bed - *toots own horn* - but we all make our own decisions and live with the consequences, right?

sublimit · 10-07-2009, 11:30 PM

PLEASE don't use terms like "clean" to describe people who are STI-free; people with STIs aren't "dirty". Yes, STIs are common, but you shouldn't avoid having sex because you're afraid of getting one. Use protection, get tested, get educated, and enjoy life!

TheDaffodil · 10-07-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sublimit

PLEASE don't use terms like "clean" to describe people who are STI-free; people with STIs aren't "dirty". Yes, STIs are common, but you shouldn't avoid having sex because you're afraid of getting one. Use protection, get tested, get educated, and enjoy life!

Nah, I think I'll keep using the term I prefer, thank you. If you can put something in someone else's body that shouldn't be there in my opinion you are a dirty person. I'm not trying to imply that all of them but those who would lie and/or not take care of it, yes, they are dirty people.

sublimit · 10-07-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaffodil

Nah, I think I'll keep using the term I prefer, thank you. If you can put something in someone else's body that shouldn't be there in my opinion you are a dirty person. I'm not trying to imply that all of them but those who would lie and/or not take care of it, yes, they are dirty people.

Wow, the ignorance and discrimination against those with STIs truly amazes me. You do know that the majority of people with STIs don't know they have them, right? Close to 90%, in fact (depending on the STI). Not everything can be tested for either.

Having an infection doesn't make you dirty.

TheDaffodil · 10-08-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sublimit

Wow, the ignorance and discrimination against those with STIs truly amazes me. You do know that the majority of people with STIs don't know they have them, right? Close to 90%, in fact (depending on the STI). Not everything can be tested for either.

Having an infection doesn't make you dirty.

You're getting too defensive about it and not letting me have my own opinion. IF YOU LIE - that means you know or suspect it and you're telling someone otherwise. You are a dirty person if you do that to another human being, if you disregard another person's health and take advantage of their trust in you.
IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT - There are girls who know or suspect it and won't go get it taken care of and will still sleep with other people. Again, you are a dirty person if you do that to another human being, if you disregard another person's health and take advantage of their trust in you.

If you don't know and you're completely clueless then you're not dirty. Simply having one doesn't make you dirty. I didn't say it did. I'm sorry you took it that way. I would say that if you're having sex though, you need to be completely responsible and when you fail to do so it is a negative thing.

leomouse · 10-08-2009, 12:00 AM

most people DO NOT have std's and if you're so worried get them tested before having sex.

sublimit · 10-08-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDaffodil

You're getting too defensive about it and not letting me have my own opinion. IF YOU LIE - that means you know or suspect it and you're telling someone otherwise. You are a dirty person if you do that to another human being, if you disregard another person's health and take advantage of their trust in you.
IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT - There are girls who know or suspect it and won't go get it taken care of and will still sleep with other people. Again, you are a dirty person if you do that to another human being, if you disregard another person's health and take advantage of their trust in you.

If you don't know and you're completely clueless then you're not dirty. Simply having one doesn't make you dirty. I didn't say it did. I'm sorry you took it that way. I would say that if you're having sex though, you need to be completely responsible and when you fail to do so it is a negative thing.

That's great, but that's not the way you used the word "clean" originally. You said:

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Originally Posted by TheDaffodil

If I were a guy, I'd wear 2 or 3 even if the girl told me she was clean.

In that sentence you weren't talking about liars or people who fail to get regularly checked; you were referring to the girl's STI status. You can't really blame me for reading it that way, can you?

I really hope you were joking about wearing two or three condoms too; wearing condoms incorrectly like that is just asking for them to break.

mind_games · 10-08-2009, 12:17 AM

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Ross: Yeah, I need uh… I’m just—I don’t know—I don’t understand, umm, how this happened? We-we used a condom.
Rachel: I know. I know, but y’know condoms only work like 97% of the time.
Ross: What? What? What?!! Well they should put that on the box!!!
Rachel: They do!
Ross: No they don’t!!! (He runs to the bedroom to check and returns with his box of condoms.) Well they should put it in huge black letters!!!!
Rachel: Okay Ross come on let’s just forget about the condoms.
Ross: Oh well I may as well have!
Rachel: Listen, y’know what? I was really freaked out too when I found out…
Ross: Freaked out? Hey no, I’m not freaked out! I’m indignant! As a consumer!
Rachel: Y’know what? Let’s, let’s talk later.
Ross: No! No! I want to talk now! Okay? I—In fact, (picks up the phone) I am going to talk to the president of the condom company!
...

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Neptunus · 10-08-2009, 12:24 AM

As hard as it is to find a guy without STDs.

TheDaffodil · 10-08-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sublimit

That's great, but that's not the way you used the word "clean" originally. You said:

In that sentence you weren't talking about liars or people who fail to get regularly checked; you were referring to the girl's STI status. You can't really blame me for reading it that way, can you?

I really hope you were joking about wearing two or three condoms too; wearing condoms incorrectly like that is just asking for them to break.

I was joking.
And I used the term correctly. I just didn't define "clean" and "dirty" when I said it. When I say that I really do mean a girl who doesn't handle her sexual responsibilities and still has sex. And you're right, I can't blame you for reading it the way you did.

sublimit · 10-08-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDaffodil

I was joking.
And I used the term correctly. I just didn't define "clean" and "dirty" when I said it. When I say that I really do mean a girl who doesn't handle her sexual responsibilities and still has sex. And you're right, I can't blame you for reading it the way you did.

Thanks for clarifying.

I agree that lying about sexual health/past is a pretty low thing to do (not sure if I would imply that it was dirty though), but maybe I can understand it? It's easy for those of us who are STI-free to judge those with STIs lying about their status, but there is such a strong stigma associated with carrying one that maybe they feel lying about it is the only way to lead a normal life? It's a shame if that's what they think, that's for sure.

Anyway, the best prevention is education. And condoms. And Gardasil!

Phibes · 10-08-2009, 01:48 AM

I'm listening to such a beautiful voice sing now. Beth Gibbons of Portishead.
I'm going to cry.

theuprising · 10-08-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDaffodil

Nah, I think I'll keep using the term I prefer, thank you. If you can put something in someone else's body that shouldn't be there in my opinion you are a dirty person. I'm not trying to imply that all of them but those who would lie and/or not take care of it, yes, they are dirty people.

Well its not surprising people with SA are some of the most judgemental. Please read this ebook (torrent it):

"Ultimate secrets of total confidence"

10-07-2009, 09:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
filledwithfear1 Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Male Age: 21 Posts: 125	How hard is it find a girl without any stds? Anyway, I was talking to someone about it, and now I'm worried...

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dan14 Status: Dan Dreamin Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia Gender: Male Age: 29 Posts: 30	Just wear a condom mate __________________ Without the bitter, baby, the sweet ain't as sweet.

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Iced Soul Status: Dancing on Rainbows Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Calilalaland Gender: Female Age: 21 Posts: 1,775	It seems like it might be hard, but I'm sure there are girls out there without them. I was actually wondering the same thing, but only with guys. __________________ I scraped my knees while I was praying And found a demon in my safest haven. Seems like, it's getting harder to believe in anything Than just to get lost in all my selfish thoughts. I wanna know what it'd be like To find perfection in my pride To see nothing in the light Just turn it off In all my spite, in all my spite, I'll turn it off. - Turn It Off - Paramore http://twitter.com/MissEerie

10-07-2009, 11:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
sublimit Status: SAS Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Gender: Female Age: 22 Posts: 112	PLEASE don't use terms like "clean" to describe people who are STI-free; people with STIs aren't "dirty". Yes, STIs are common, but you shouldn't avoid having sex because you're afraid of getting one. Use protection, get tested, get educated, and enjoy life! __________________ "I'm a woman delighted with her disasters. They give me something to do. A profession of sorts. Keeps me industrious. And of some servicable use." -Sandra Cisneros

10-08-2009, 12:24 AM	#16 (permalink)
Neptunus Status: Authenticating Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Female Posts: 2,833	As hard as it is to find a guy without STDs. __________________ "When I stand before thee at the day's end, thou shalt see my scars and know that I had my wounds and also my healing." ~Rabindranath Tagore "Being gentle means forgiving yourself when you mess up. We should learn from our mistakes, but we shouldn't beat the tar out of ourselves over them. The past is just that, past. Learn what went wrong and why. Make amends if you need to. Then drop it and move on." ---Sean Covey

10-07-2009, 09:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
drealm Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California Gender: Male Age: 22 Posts: 292	With sexual relativism being the new norm I'd wager the statistics are higher for both your average man and woman to have some STD. There's no going back.

10-07-2009, 09:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
filledwithfear1 Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Male Age: 21 Posts: 125	I know, it sucks...

10-07-2009, 10:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Phibes Status: blessed with lucky sevens Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia. Gender: Male Age: 21 Posts: 637	That's why you grab them when they're young rofl... before they have a chance to get infected LOL. Now if you're young and they're young that's fine but I don't approve of old animals trying to molest young boys & girls like in the picture below.

10-07-2009, 10:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
filledwithfear1 Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Male Age: 21 Posts: 125	Actually I'm only 21. And I'm waiting till I'm married for sex..

10-08-2009, 12:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
leomouse Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 239	most people DO NOT have std's and if you're so worried get them tested before having sex.

10-08-2009, 01:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
Phibes Status: blessed with lucky sevens Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia. Gender: Male Age: 21 Posts: 637	I'm listening to such a beautiful voice sing now. Beth Gibbons of Portishead. I'm going to cry.