PETA acting crazy again

[UltraShy]

Drop those Mc Nuggets, you damn dirty killer!

http://www.peta.org/mc/NewsItem.asp?id=13544

Roanoke, Va. -- This morning, PETA sent a letter to Virginia Gov. Timothy Kaine offering to rent the Botetourt Correctional Center building, which is slated to close because of budget concerns, and turn it into America's first chicken empathy museum.
The museum could feature exhibits that include video footage from research conducted at Bristol University in the U.K.--research that showed how chickens are intelligent animals with mental abilities comparable to cats, dogs, and even primates. It could also feature a restaurant that would serve heart-friendly and delicious faux-chicken drumsticks and chickenless pot pie and a gift shop that could provide free plush chickens for kids, with tags reading, "I Am Not a Nugget!" The museum would feature interactive displays, including one in which visitors have weighted backpacks strapped to their backs to simulate how large chickens' upper bodies can grow in proportion to their legs. The museum would also provide area residents with much-needed jobs.

"In addition to creating jobs, the museum would convert a building that was built for the purpose of incarceration into a tribute to liberation," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Chickens are sensitive, smart animals who have feelings just as we do--they deserve better than to be treated like mere meat machines."

All I can say is the taste of death is delicious. (And death tastes just like chicken.)

In other news, memorial services will be held Thursday for the ant I killed in cold blood yesterday.

[pyramidsong]

I think PETA's methods leave a lot to be desired and that museum sounds silly, but as someone who has studied agriculture systems at uni as part of a pre-vet degree, seeing the cruel practices involved in processing meat actually inspired me to become vegetarian.

If people knew what goes on in factory farms and slaughterhouses they'd be appalled, or should be.

Why is cruelty to and suffering of innocent, defenceless creatures funny to you? I'm not asking that to be emotive or accusatory and if you wish to eat meat that's up to you, but why make jokes about the appalling treatment these animals receive? Mock PETA's dramatic methods, sure (you'd be surprised how many vegetarians and vegans don't like PETA either) but please don't let your dislike of them stop you from at least considering the issue they're raising. The medium is not always the message.

[pointy]

I agree with pyramidsong. I don't like PETA and I don't think a "chicken empathy museum" is the best way to get their message across, especially with the plush chickens for kids. But the issue of cruelty to chickens is something at least worth considering. Of course, if I wanted unbiased information about it, the last place I would look to is PETA.

[millenniumman75]

They want to worship the McNugget?

[Imparable]

Creating more awareness for how chickens are intelligent creatures that people would otherwise be unaware of, saving an old prison building that would otherwise be closed, helping the economy by creating jobs, and then serving healthy meat-free food? Gee what a horrible idea.

[justpassinby]

All hail the apparently all-knowing wise mighty chicken! If they are so intelligent, how come they let themselves be turned into mcnuggets?

On a serious note, I do support more humane ways to treat animals if they were to be used for mass consumption. As long as there is a demand, there will be a supply. I don't eat at KFC or McDonalds though, so i'm doing my part.

[Zephyr]

Haven't eaten at McDonalds in years. I do remember their McNuggets being really tasty.

[hellopiggy]

i love PETA's aggressiveness.

[EagerMinnow84]

It's well known that PETA, no matter how "ethical" they appear to be on the outside, are not as "save the animals" as they lead us to believe.

On an unrelated note,

They want to call fish sea kittens. I sure do love sea kittens then, mmmm tasty.

[WineKitty]

PETA is over the top; everyone knows that.

[jer]

the overarching issue here is of compassion for another living being.

imagine if there were other living beings that were far more intelligent to us and wouldnt mind eating us.
How would you deal with it if you were to be raised in a concentration camp like environment. then one day selected for slaughter.

Just think about that for a moment.

We will only understand somebody else's suffering if we live their lives. unfortunately we cant and consequently we just ignore it.


I just cant fathom people pampering their cats and dogs and showing all kinds of concern when they are hurt.
Yet the same people eat with relish another animal (maybe not so intelligent, yet capable of feeling pain like cats and dogs).

Maybe we are not that civilized after all. Just barbaric people with a sophistication that is skin deep.

[KimberlyK]

Originally Posted by UltraShy

Drop those Mc Nuggets, you damn dirty killer!

http://www.peta.org/mc/NewsItem.asp?id=13544



All I can say is the taste of death is delicious. (And death tastes just like chicken.)

In other news, memorial services will be held Thursday for the ant I killed in cold blood yesterday.

Please read these two articles and then tell me how you can eat chickens and their eggs and laugh about it:
http://www.farmsanctuary.org/issues/...rming/poultry/

http://www.farmsanctuary.org/issues/...yfarming/eggs/

[jer]

Kimberly, thanks for posting that.
It was terrible reading it and I had to stop half way.

Hope some of the folks who are laughing will feel at least some compassion for these poor birds.

[UltraShy]

Originally Posted by WineKitty

PETA is over the top; everyone knows that.

Not everyone. PETA seems unaware of how they hurt their own cause by coming across as lunatics.

It's hard to take any message seriously when the messenger is the village idiot.

[UltraShy]

Originally Posted by KimberlyK

Please read these two articles and then tell me how you can eat chickens and their eggs and laugh about it:
http://www.farmsanctuary.org/issues/...rming/poultry/

http://www.farmsanctuary.org/issues/...yfarming/eggs/

I quickly read them. I didn't get every word, but, yes I noticed the gory details that I'm sure you wanted me to see. Yes, I read about how sometimes the cutter fails to kills them so live birds get boiled to death (isn't that how lobster is intentionally prepared?)

As a result of those articles I will not be changing my meat nor egg consumption in any way.

[pyramidsong]

Originally Posted by UltraShy

Not everyone. PETA seems unaware of how they hurt their own cause by coming across as lunatics.

It's hard to take any message seriously when the messenger is the village idiot.

What about those of us who asked in a calm and reasonable way that you at least consider the message?

You didn't actually address the questions that were asked of you quietly and without blame. Do you or do you not think that animal cruelty is acceptable? It really is that simple.

[layitontheline]

I admit PETA's tactics are ridiculous at times and no doubt often make vegetarians/vegans look like nutters, but I don't see the humour here.

[sacred]

oh well for every 10,000 chickens that have to suffer one fat over indulging human gets to die early and usually alone thus selected out of the gene pool. works for me.

[UltraShy]

Originally Posted by pyramidsong

What about those of us who asked in a calm and reasonable way that you at least consider the message?

I'm open to hearing opposing views and I have changed my mind on some things over the years & decades. This will shock some here who think of me as that raging gun nut, but back as a teen I fully bought into the idea that more gun control was the answer to reducing crime, for example, and even used that as a topic for a required English assignment arguing a controversial issue. Obviously, my views on guns have done a 180 in the 20 years since. At one time I'd have supported more gun control. Today I'd support getting rid of most guns laws.

Several years ago the idea of giving tax dollars to private schools -- even the RELIGIOUS ones -- would have made my blood boil. Today I'm willing to accept the concept of school vouchers that allow parents to send their kids to any school, recognizing the utter failure of a public education monopoly in inner cities across the nation.

My views can be changed if the argument is good enough. But keep in mind that I'm really old by SAS standards, so odds are I've heard virtually every argument that exists by now. It's not likely my views on eating meat and where that meat comes from are going to change when none of these arguments are new to me. I'm 36, so I've clearly had plenty of time to think about this stuff. I may seem very inflexible in my views, but that simply because I've had so long to form those views and it's not likely somebody is going to come up with a compelling new argument that I never previously considered.

Bring me a truly new argument and just maybe I will change. It has happened before.

You didn't actually address the questions that were asked of you quietly and without blame. Do you or do you not think that animal cruelty is acceptable? It really is that simple.

It really depends on what you define as cruel. If your home is infested by rats is setting out a bunch of rat traps that will go snap cruel? I'd say no, even though I think fancy rats are really cute and would make really nice pets. Yet, I'd still have no problem with killing vermin.

[SilentLoner]

PETA uses excessive shock tactics on purpose, to get attention and get people talking.

A good example is threads like this.