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slaughter in the vatican · 10-20-2009, 01:51 AM

You can find the entire piece here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread511270/pg1

It's not very long. And yes, it's from a conspiracy forum. I know; I know. Anyway, I thought I would paste a couple of quotes below. I don't know how much text we're allowed to quote here so I'll be brief.

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The concept of the liberal media has been around for a bit, regardless of whether it is/was true or not. FOX News is a calculated response to this perspective. The media's 'liberal' lean may have been more subconscious and the result of the type of people who worked these jobs or chose the stories. They still let the news come to them. FOX began with the goal of presenting a conservative point of view and made choices with purpose. They create the news by placing information through a filter which distorts the evidence. Many are well aware of this, but those who support the conservative view are not concerned. Of course your enemies would say these things about you, it doesn't mean they are true, it just reinforces the fact that you disagree.

And this...

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The point is, the party is no longer defined by the will of it's voters and the reflections of a changing culture, they are pre determined at a level that has not been seen before. The Democrats have their agenda and propaganda too but not like the Republicans. The speed of the dissemination of information and party stance is unprecedented. The modern age of communications allows us to witness something that has never been seen. The literal mass programming of a portion of the population in order to maintain power for a select group of individuals. I'm not even trying to bash them or their supporters, it's just that on a general level, this is what's occuring (sic). It just happens to be their group, or the people inclined to believe those ideas.

[emphasis mine]

So what do you think? I was hoping we could have a thoughtful discussion concerning some of the points the writer brought up. I thought it was very well done, esp. for something so brief.

rcapo89 · 10-20-2009, 09:36 AM

Yeah I agree with most of what the article states. The entire media is a corrupt machine funded by corporations and an elite who hold the true power in this "democratic" country. We have a rigged two party system that doesn't represent the interests of the American people. Our democratic elections are just an illusion. We truly are a nation of sheep.

By the way I think its ironic that there are ads on this site promoting Ann Coulter.

Mr. Frostie · 10-20-2009, 11:01 AM

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The modern age of communications allows us to witness something that has never been seen. The literal mass programming of a portion of the population in order to maintain power for a select group of individuals.

They lost me at this part. The person who wrote this probably believes in the Illuminati and reptile people too.

slaughter in the vatican · 10-20-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rcapo89

Yeah I agree with most of what the article states. The entire media is a corrupt machine funded by corporations and an elite who hold the true power in this "democratic" country. We have a rigged two party system that doesn't represent the interests of the American people. Our democratic elections are just an illusion. We truly are a nation of sheep.

By the way I think its ironic that there are ads on this site promoting Ann Coulter.

Totally, I couldn't have said it better myself!

Yea, the Ann Coulter ad gets to me and also the I Have Social Skills and You Don't ad. <sigh>

rcapo89 · 10-20-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by slaughter in the vatican

Totally, I couldn't have said it better myself!

Yea, the Ann Coulter ad gets to me and also the I Have Social Skills and You Don't ad. <sigh>

Ah!! I just saw an ad promoting Ann Coulter.

I've never seen the "I have Social Skills and You Don't" ad?

bobthebuilder · 10-20-2009, 04:04 PM

Yeah with fox's help, the repub party is so powerful, they hold every office in government! oh wait.....

slaughter in the vatican · 10-22-2009, 09:45 PM

You're comparing apples to oranges. Yes, the Democrats currently hold the White House, the Senate, and Congress. That changes nothing with Fox or the nature of their organization, as pointed out in the article.

Fox was the same way when, for many years, a conservative, right-wing Republican party had full control of the presidency, and both houses. Way to not address the question. Like I mentioned, I was hoping that we could have a thoughtful discussion of this topic.

bobthebuilder · 10-23-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slaughter in the vatican

So what do you think? I was hoping we could have a thoughtful discussion concerning some of the points the writer brought up. I thought it was very well done, esp. for something so brief.

Well, i dont see how i could not address the question-'what do you think?' is a broad question, and obviously i did not agree with the article. It may not have been a fleshed out argument, but it is 'what i thought'

next, i dont see how you could get a thoughtful discussion- the poster of the article, as established in your first quote, is clearly biased. Somehow, its ok for a news station to be accidently liberal, but fox be damned for intentionally being conservative.

But ill bite- repubs have fox, the dems have youtube. fair game.

For your second quote, people are not being programmed, they are just recieving misinformation from both sides. In the US, and probably the rest of the world, people are spending more time working, leaving no time for proper research on political events. Its easier to just watch a station that seems to match your views, and go with whatever they say. Hence the reason youll hear one side say the other does not support *insert something everyone would support* because they didnt vote on a particular bill for it, but they wont tell it was because *insert reason nobody would support it.*

tldr: leave fox alone, everyone else does it, and it works.

Brightpaperwarewolf · 10-23-2009, 03:38 PM

Dems have Youtube?

That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard.

slaughter in the vatican · 10-23-2009, 04:42 PM

Well, you're right, and I understand your reasoning. It really is almost impossible to find the time to research things on your own, and I could see why someone would watch what supports their viewpoint (Fox), just like I prefer to watch something that supports my viewpoint (MSNBC).

I also agree that liberals tend to have more sway on the Internet, and the media in general. What you said made a lot of sense.

And sorry for getting so worked up. I think I got a little heated, and for that I apologise.

brokensaint · 10-23-2009, 04:45 PM

Yep and CNN and MSNBC are totally impartial.

Haha.

TheGMan · 10-23-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthebuilder

Yeah with fox's help, the repub party is so powerful, they hold every office in government! oh wait.....

Their close cousins and fellow authoritarians do. So what's the difference. It's all in the family.

bobthebuilder · 10-27-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slaughter in the vatican

Well, you're right, and I understand your reasoning. It really is almost impossible to find the time to research things on your own, and I could see why someone would watch what supports their viewpoint (Fox), just like I prefer to watch something that supports my viewpoint (MSNBC).

I also agree that liberals tend to have more sway on the Internet, and the media in general. What you said made a lot of sense.

And sorry for getting so worked up. I think I got a little heated, and for that I apologise.

All i ask, is the same thing all the anti-fox ppl claim to want- fairness. You wanna say fox gave bush preferential treatment, be sure to point out CNNs treatment of obama.

The only thing on news i watch (and rarely) does happen to be on fox, and its Glenn Beck. He seems dead on, on everything (except pot...how can a reformed druggie be against pot? must be for ratings or something). Now before everyone jumps on me for liking a pundit, i would never form an opinion, cast a vote, or take action on his word alone. If i were to do anything, i would check his claims, and do my own research. His ideas seem logical- then again, im not an economist, a historian, a doctor, a scientist, or a politician, so i could be wrong.

orpheus · 10-29-2009, 09:23 AM

I don't realy care for blogs. Sorry for wasting space here.

rcapo89 · 10-29-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Brightpaperwarewolf

Dems have Youtube?

That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard.

Democrats controlling youtube please...

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Originally Posted by TheGMan

Their close cousins and fellow authoritarians do. So what's the difference. It's all in the family.

The entire corporate media is corrupt. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are authoritarians. Our entire rigged election system is a shell game.

nubly · 10-29-2009, 09:46 AM

i get a chuckle when people make fun of democrats or republicans. 'they are just different sides of the same coi'. the jokes are often interchangable.

10-20-2009, 09:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
rcapo89 Status: Exploring the moon Europa Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgia (northeast of Atlanta) Gender: Male Age: 20 Posts: 840	Yeah I agree with most of what the article states. The entire media is a corrupt machine funded by corporations and an elite who hold the true power in this "democratic" country. We have a rigged two party system that doesn't represent the interests of the American people. Our democratic elections are just an illusion. We truly are a nation of sheep. By the way I think its ironic that there are ads on this site promoting Ann Coulter. __________________ I see the world being slowly transformed into a wilderness, I hear the approaching thunder that, one day, will destroy us too. I feel the suffering of millions. And yet, when I look up at the sky, I somehow feel that everything will change for the better, that this cruelty too shall end, that peace and tranquility will return once more. - Anne Frank

10-22-2009, 09:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
slaughter in the vatican Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nowhere Gender: Male Posts: 57	You're comparing apples to oranges. Yes, the Democrats currently hold the White House, the Senate, and Congress. That changes nothing with Fox or the nature of their organization, as pointed out in the article. Fox was the same way when, for many years, a conservative, right-wing Republican party had full control of the presidency, and both houses. Way to not address the question. Like I mentioned, I was hoping that we could have a thoughtful discussion of this topic. __________________ "Now you live in the trees and salty seas, trippin' out in the blue sky..."

10-23-2009, 03:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Brightpaperwarewolf Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 928	Dems have Youtube? That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. __________________ Happiness is only real if shared.

10-23-2009, 04:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
slaughter in the vatican Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nowhere Gender: Male Posts: 57	Well, you're right, and I understand your reasoning. It really is almost impossible to find the time to research things on your own, and I could see why someone would watch what supports their viewpoint (Fox), just like I prefer to watch something that supports my viewpoint (MSNBC). I also agree that liberals tend to have more sway on the Internet, and the media in general. What you said made a lot of sense. And sorry for getting so worked up. I think I got a little heated, and for that I apologise. __________________ "Now you live in the trees and salty seas, trippin' out in the blue sky..."

10-29-2009, 09:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
orpheus Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Socal Gender: Male Age: 29 Posts: 6,102	I don't realy care for blogs. Sorry for wasting space here. __________________ "To hell with reality! I want to die in music, not in reason or in prose. People don't deserve the restraint we show by not going into delirium in front of them. To hell with them."

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bobthebuilder Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NY Gender: Male Age: 21 Posts: 132	Yeah with fox's help, the repub party is so powerful, they hold every office in government! oh wait.....

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brokensaint Status: SAS Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Halifax, NS Gender: Male Posts: 202	Yep and CNN and MSNBC are totally impartial. Haha.

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nubly Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA the greatest and best country in the world!! :) Posts: 7,065	i get a chuckle when people make fun of democrats or republicans. 'they are just different sides of the same coi'. the jokes are often interchangable.