Social Anxiety Support

ProgMetalGamer2112 · 06-02-2012, 01:43 AM

Coming from a straight guy, this annoys me to death. I hate it when other guys do things like the "From 1-10 how hot is she" game, or ask "Would you do her?" and basically talk about random girls like they are just tools meant for sex and looking "hot". I honestly find it disrespectful to them and it just makes us as a gender seem like pigs who view the other gender as only good for our pleasures. Sure, I naturally find women as attractive as much as the next guy, but I just never liked this kinda stuff. Thoughts, anyone?

A Toxic Butterfly · 06-02-2012, 01:48 AM

I generally don't care for both sexes talking like "I'd do him/her" and rating people on a physical basis. But everyone has their own idea about relationships, so I'm not going to get into that. Still I see the frustration, I personally don't like it either.

BobbyByThePound · 06-02-2012, 01:50 AM

I don't like the whole rating thing for either gender. Saying a person is a 7 or a 10 or a whatever reminds me of saying a car or some other item is worth some particular amount of money. To me it's like saying certain people are less valuable. And I think we should value everyone and we shouldn't treat other people or look at other people like cars or merchandise.

Cletis · 06-02-2012, 01:51 AM

I'm guilty of some of this and I see your point.

missingno · 06-02-2012, 01:56 AM

How else are you meant to rate them? What is wrong with a group of guys talking about random girls. Why should they care about what the random girl will think about it when they have no intention of telling her.

I don't get it seriously some of you people would like to have every private conversation censored and to be politically correct at all times. No one is getting hurt when this happens.

Chirp · 06-02-2012, 01:59 AM

I do that with guys and girls all of the time, so do a lot of other women I know.

Stop acting like women aren't guilty of doing these things too. You're making men out to be "pigs" and women just get your pity? Come on now.

Besides, this doesn't really harm anybody. If it's just some random, they're never going to know what you said, it really doesn't effect them in any way.

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Originally Posted by missingno

How else are you meant to rate them? What is wrong with a group of guys talking about random girls. Why should they care about what the random girl will think about it when they have no intention of telling her.

I don't get it seriously some of you people would like to have every private conversation censored and to be politically correct at all times. No one is getting hurt when this happens.

^ Oh, and this.

ThrashtilDeath · 06-02-2012, 02:05 AM

Women objectify men on a physical level the same as guys. They just don't talk about it as openly.

ProgMetalGamer2112 · 06-02-2012, 02:24 AM

Ok guys I apologize for making it seem one sided it's just that in my experience it seems to happen more often with guys. I dislike it when women do it too.

Resonance · 06-02-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ProgMetalGamer2112

Coming from a straight guy, this annoys me to death. I hate it when other guys do things like the "From 1-10 how hot is she" game, or ask "Would you do her?" and basically talk about random girls like they are just tools meant for sex and looking "hot". I honestly find it disrespectful to them and it just makes us as a gender seem like pigs who view the other gender as only good for our pleasures. Sure, I naturally find women as attractive as much as the next guy, but I just never liked this kinda stuff. Thoughts, anyone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by missingno

How else are you meant to rate them? What is wrong with a group of guys talking about random girls. Why should they care about what the random girl will think about it when they have no intention of telling her.

I don't get it seriously some of you people would like to have every private conversation censored and to be politically correct at all times. No one is getting hurt when this happens.

Guy's saying he doesn't like it, not that he is going to send jack-booted paramilitaries to arrest you if you personally happen to talk like this. I personally think some of you people are utterly unable to deal with disagreement or differing opinions.

And I'm in agreement with the OP. I hate it when guys do this. Sure I'm straight and I'm attracted to women and all that, I just don't feel the need to go around discussing my heterosexuality with other men and quantifying my attraction to particular women numerically.

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Originally Posted by Chirp

I do that with guys and girls all of the time, so do a lot of other women I know.

Stop acting like women aren't guilty of doing these things too. You're making men out to be "pigs" and women just get your pity? Come on now.

And nobody is saying this is exclusive to one gender or the other. It is just that, with the presumable exceptions of gays and bisexuals, people tend to exclusively try to strike up these conversations with members of their own gender. Thus I am never in the position of a woman coming up to me, pointing at a picutre of a random guy and disucssing how he is "totally a seven".

nemesis1 · 06-02-2012, 03:42 AM

I dont see the big deal with this. You are not judging them as a person on the 1-10 scale, just how attractive you personally deem them to be, thats all.

And it seems the only people that have a problem with it are people who constantly score lowly on that scale.

PickleNose · 06-02-2012, 05:01 AM

What do you expect? It's what we're supposed to do. I know you'll deny it but don't bother. It's completely natural. Men and women both do it and it's never going to stop. It's instinct.

michael1 · 06-02-2012, 05:30 AM

what resonance said

PickleNose · 06-02-2012, 06:40 AM

Addendum -

And I'll tell you what I'm tired of. People are so petty. I mean my god if you so much as cast a glance in the wrong direction crazy people come out of the woodwork to reprimand you. You can tell they're crazy by the fact that it takes nothing to get them bent out of shape.

AllToAll · 06-02-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonance

Guy's saying he doesn't like it, not that he is going to send jack-booted paramilitaries to arrest you if you personally happen to talk like this. I personally think some of you people are utterly unable to deal with disagreement or differing opinions.

And I'm in agreement with the OP. I hate it when guys do this. Sure I'm straight and I'm attracted to women and all that, I just don't feel the need to go around discussing my heterosexuality with other men and quantifying my attraction to particular women numerically.

And nobody is saying this is exclusive to one gender or the other. It is just that, with the presumable exceptions of gays and bisexuals, people tend to exclusively try to strike up these conversations with members of their own gender. Thus I am never in the position of a woman coming up to me, pointing at a picutre of a random guy and disucssing how he is "totally a seven".

This deserves a slow clap... but I can't find a good gif.

pita · 06-02-2012, 08:32 AM

^
Adding my slow clap to yours.

thewall · 06-02-2012, 08:39 AM

Yeah, I wish people would just keep these thoughts to themselves. I'm the only girl at my workplace and I have to hear this crap constantly. Really does wonders for my self-esteem.

Hopeful25 · 06-02-2012, 10:04 AM

I do this with my brother all the time. Like others have said, it isn't exclusive to men. Just because they use a scale doesn't mean they would like women to be bought and sold as property, we're just saying whether we think they're attractive or not. No harm done there

Hopeful25 · 06-02-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonance

Guy's saying he doesn't like it, not that he is going to send jack-booted paramilitaries to arrest you if you personally happen to talk like this. I personally think some of you people are utterly unable to deal with disagreement or differing opinions.

And I'm in agreement with the OP. I hate it when guys do this. Sure I'm straight and I'm attracted to women and all that, I just don't feel the need to go around discussing my heterosexuality with other men and quantifying my attraction to particular women numerically.

And nobody is saying this is exclusive to one gender or the other. It is just that, with the presumable exceptions of gays and bisexuals, people tend to exclusively try to strike up these conversations with members of their own gender. Thus I am never in the position of a woman coming up to me, pointing at a picutre of a random guy and disucssing how he is "totally a seven".

The fact that he posted this in this section is kind of deceiving though lol. It gives off the impression that this is a controversial issue that should be changed or something. Saying how attracted you are to a person really isn't controversial at all, it's human nature.

Freiheit · 06-02-2012, 10:11 AM

I don't care if they do it in their head or in their room with their friends but if I hear it in public, I can't help but find it tactless and gross.

Resonance · 06-02-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hopeful25

The fact that he posted this in this section is kind of deceiving though lol. It gives off the impression that this is a controversial issue that should be changed or something. Saying how attracted you are to a person really isn't controversial at all, it's human nature.

No, it gives off the impression it is a socio-cultural issue. Which it is.

06-02-2012, 01:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
ProgMetalGamer2112 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Gender: Male Posts: 22	I dislike when guys "rate" women by "hotness" and such Coming from a straight guy, this annoys me to death. I hate it when other guys do things like the "From 1-10 how hot is she" game, or ask "Would you do her?" and basically talk about random girls like they are just tools meant for sex and looking "hot". I honestly find it disrespectful to them and it just makes us as a gender seem like pigs who view the other gender as only good for our pleasures. Sure, I naturally find women as attractive as much as the next guy, but I just never liked this kinda stuff. Thoughts, anyone?

06-02-2012, 01:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
A Toxic Butterfly Status: лучше давать, чем брать Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: United States Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 844	I generally don't care for both sexes talking like "I'd do him/her" and rating people on a physical basis. But everyone has their own idea about relationships, so I'm not going to get into that. Still I see the frustration, I personally don't like it either. __________________ "Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains." ~Jean-Jacques Rosseau "Bleeding dry the promise of worth Knowing you were meant for this thirst Drink it in slowly while life puts a heart in you" ~Lacey Sturm ❤ ...and she asks herself, "Do you think you will be good enough to love others and to be loved?"

06-02-2012, 01:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
BobbyByThePound Status: Tha BobFather Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Francisco Bay Gender: Male Age: 19 Posts: 651	I don't like the whole rating thing for either gender. Saying a person is a 7 or a 10 or a whatever reminds me of saying a car or some other item is worth some particular amount of money. To me it's like saying certain people are less valuable. And I think we should value everyone and we shouldn't treat other people or look at other people like cars or merchandise. __________________ "Believed in myself, no one else saw my magic" -South Park Mexican

06-02-2012, 01:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cletis Status: I ate the bones! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: United States Gender: Male Posts: 3,265	I'm guilty of some of this and I see your point. __________________ The last thing people want to hear is another Hollywood actor telling them what to think. --- Hollywood Actor Rob Lowe

06-02-2012, 01:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
missingno Status: On The Iron Throne Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: 33.8683°S, 151.2086°E Gender: Male Age: 25 Posts: 995	How else are you meant to rate them? What is wrong with a group of guys talking about random girls. Why should they care about what the random girl will think about it when they have no intention of telling her. I don't get it seriously some of you people would like to have every private conversation censored and to be politically correct at all times. No one is getting hurt when this happens. __________________ Forever Alone Crew Still Live with my Parents Crew Never Had a Girlfriend Crew Socially Awkward Crew Dead by 30 Crew Dead Inside Crew Snitches get Stitches Crew Anti White Knight Crew The Un-American Crew Wish I Was a Sociopath Crew Dream Of Being Murdered Crew Got To Stop Looking Down At Heights Because Tempted To Jump Crew Vegetarian/Vegan Hater Crew Not Part Of The Liberal Circle Jerk Crew Anti-Feminist Crew 3+ kdr crew

06-02-2012, 02:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
ThrashtilDeath Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Gender: Male Age: 27 Posts: 1,124	Women objectify men on a physical level the same as guys. They just don't talk about it as openly.

06-02-2012, 02:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
ProgMetalGamer2112 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Gender: Male Posts: 22	Ok guys I apologize for making it seem one sided it's just that in my experience it seems to happen more often with guys. I dislike it when women do it too.

06-02-2012, 03:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
nemesis1 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Gender: Male Posts: 2,282	I dont see the big deal with this. You are not judging them as a person on the 1-10 scale, just how attractive you personally deem them to be, thats all. And it seems the only people that have a problem with it are people who constantly score lowly on that scale.

06-02-2012, 05:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
PickleNose Status: Not Fooled Join Date: Jul 2009 Gender: Male Age: 39 Posts: 11,206	What do you expect? It's what we're supposed to do. I know you'll deny it but don't bother. It's completely natural. Men and women both do it and it's never going to stop. It's instinct. __________________ "And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes....I'll see you on the dark side of the moon"

06-02-2012, 05:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
michael1 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: London Gender: Male Age: 25 Posts: 1,093	what resonance said

06-02-2012, 06:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
PickleNose Status: Not Fooled Join Date: Jul 2009 Gender: Male Age: 39 Posts: 11,206	Addendum - And I'll tell you what I'm tired of. People are so petty. I mean my god if you so much as cast a glance in the wrong direction crazy people come out of the woodwork to reprimand you. You can tell they're crazy by the fact that it takes nothing to get them bent out of shape. __________________ "And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes....I'll see you on the dark side of the moon"

06-02-2012, 08:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
pita Status: subtastic Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Female Posts: 8,113	^ Adding my slow clap to yours.

06-02-2012, 08:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
thewall Status: stress is a killah Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 1,883	Yeah, I wish people would just keep these thoughts to themselves. I'm the only girl at my workplace and I have to hear this crap constantly. Really does wonders for my self-esteem.

06-02-2012, 10:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
Hopeful25 Status: User Requested Permanent Ban Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Queens, NY Gender: Male Age: 19 Posts: 3,567	I do this with my brother all the time. Like others have said, it isn't exclusive to men. Just because they use a scale doesn't mean they would like women to be bought and sold as property, we're just saying whether we think they're attractive or not. No harm done there

06-02-2012, 10:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
Freiheit Status: o_O Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA Gender: Female Age: 21 Posts: 4,964	I don't care if they do it in their head or in their room with their friends but if I hear it in public, I can't help but find it tactless and gross.

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