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shyvr6 · 10-30-2009, 02:02 PM

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According to the Helena, Montana Independent Record, the makers of the Louisville Slugger line of bats was held liable yesterday for the death of a an 18-year-old pitcher who was hit in the head by a ball that the batter had hit with an approved aluminum Louisville Slugger bat. Plaintiff's theory was that the aluminum bats were defective because they only give the pitcher an average of 400 milliseconds to respond in a defensive stance. Plaintiff also argued that the manufacturer failed to warn about this alleged hazard.

In an earlier article, the Independent Record had reported that a defense lawyer said in his opening that the ball that struck the pitcher was traveling at 99.8 miles per hour, and that nearly every home run hit with a wooden bat exceeds 100 miles per hour.

It apparently took the jury 12 hours of deliberations to conclude that the manufacturer failed to adequately warn, that the failure to warn caused the young pitcher's injury, and that the bat itself was not defectively designed

http://www.wlky.com/cnn-news/21467637/detail.html

I'm sure if this pitcher knew he only had 400 milliseconds to get out of the way he would've reacted differently..

coldmorning · 10-30-2009, 02:28 PM

That's absolutely retarded.

Jnmcda0 · 10-30-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coldmorning

That's absolutely retarded.

Agreed. I feel sorry for the victim's family, but I don't agree with the lawsuit.

glarmph · 10-30-2009, 04:45 PM

Same stupid crap, different day.

EagerMinnow84 · 10-30-2009, 05:12 PM

It is sad that the guy died, but the verdict is silly. There is always a risk for baseball players, especially pitchers. MLB pitchers got hit in the face a few times this year with a line drive, that is the risk. There is a reason why products have insane warning labels... lawsuits. Hairdryers have the warning label of "do not use in the shower" and "do not use while sleeping." Seriously.

UltraShy · 10-30-2009, 05:15 PM

This case would seem to support the theory that juries are made up largely of people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

Would the pitcher not be dead had it been a wood bat? Would the pitcher have done anything differently that would have saved his life had he know about the danger of aluminum bats?

I know virtually nothing about sports and even I knew that aluminum bats aren't used in the major leagues because they hit the ball with too much force such that you'd end up with lots of home runs and potentially dead pitchers.

Are you going to tell me that a baseball team knows even less about the performance of such bats than I do?

His death, while very unfortunate, is a well-known risk. If you're a pitcher there is the risk that you will be hit by a baseball resulting in injury and very rarely death. If you don't want to assume that risk, then don't play ball.

SilentLoner · 10-30-2009, 05:24 PM

What a load of B.S. What, they going to sue the makers of the ball now?

zookeeper · 10-30-2009, 05:26 PM

I think they should sue the inventors of baseball for putting the pitcher's mound too close to the plate.

Or sue ESPN for televising baseball, thus making their son want to play the sport.

millenniumman75 · 10-30-2009, 06:54 PM

This is not right.

OneIsALonelyNumber · 10-30-2009, 07:01 PM

Insane.

UltraShy · 10-31-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentLoner

What a load of B.S. What, they going to sue the makers of the ball now?

I bet his lawyer is considering that option. Baseballs are inherently unsafe given how hard they are and clearly present a high risk of injury as compared to softballs.

00Athena00 · 10-31-2009, 03:46 PM

It sounds like this case was decided more out of sympathy for the family than consideration for the law. It's sad that this kid died, but the premise of their suit is a stretch. The jury probably figured that the family deserved the money and the company could afford it. I honestly don't think that putting a warning label on the the bat would have prevented the boy's death.

Cerberus · 10-31-2009, 04:14 PM

It seems like people want to wrap everything in bubble wrap these days.

"You need a little danger in Your life! What Are You gonna do,
play with Your prick for another 30 years? Read People magazine and
eat at Wendys til the end of time? Take a ****in chance!"

-Carlin

coldmorning · 10-31-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 00Athena00

It sounds like this case was decided more out of sympathy for the family than consideration for the law. It's sad that this kid died, but the premise of their suit is a stretch. The jury probably figured that the family deserved the money and the company could afford it.

That's what I think happened. But you know they're really compromising the integrity of the judicial system that way. And in the long run that's really not good for society.

UltraShy · 10-31-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 00Athena00

I honestly don't think that putting a warning label on the the bat would have prevented the boy's death.

Have you read an owners manual for anything lately? They offer up warnings for folks who don't know that you shouldn't make toast while in a swimming poll or use a blow dryer while sleeping.

It seems companies employ a team of lawyers to attempt to come up with all the idiotic ways somebody could possible use their product so they can warn not to do that as cover against a lawsuit by a moron.

10-30-2009, 05:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
EagerMinnow84 Status: Living in Technicolor Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dancing with Gene Kelly Gender: Female Posts: 1,189	It is sad that the guy died, but the verdict is silly. There is always a risk for baseball players, especially pitchers. MLB pitchers got hit in the face a few times this year with a line drive, that is the risk. There is a reason why products have insane warning labels... lawsuits. Hairdryers have the warning label of "do not use in the shower" and "do not use while sleeping." Seriously. __________________ I don't know, I kind of like him. He's the exact opposite of everything I really hate. In a way, he's such a clueless dork, he's almost kind of cool

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UltraShy Status: Accident of Birth Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI (Atheist, Libertarian) Gender: Male Age: 36 Posts: 24,570	This case would seem to support the theory that juries are made up largely of people too stupid to get out of jury duty. Would the pitcher not be dead had it been a wood bat? Would the pitcher have done anything differently that would have saved his life had he know about the danger of aluminum bats? I know virtually nothing about sports and even I knew that aluminum bats aren't used in the major leagues because they hit the ball with too much force such that you'd end up with lots of home runs and potentially dead pitchers. Are you going to tell me that a baseball team knows even less about the performance of such bats than I do? His death, while very unfortunate, is a well-known risk. If you're a pitcher there is the risk that you will be hit by a baseball resulting in injury and very rarely death. If you don't want to assume that risk, then don't play ball. __________________ Nothing is ever the way it should be What we deserve we just don't get you see http://www.insureyourgunrights.com/

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SilentLoner Status: Otaku Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lost in thought, though occasionally I may be located at an anime convention. Gender: Female Age: 22 Posts: 2,451	What a load of B.S. What, they going to sue the makers of the ball now? __________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” -Plato "When a cold wind blows it chills you - chills you to the bone. But there's nothing in nature that freezes your heart like years of being alone." OTAKU UNITE! “We honor Dr. Tiller’s legacy of service to women.” Dr. George Tiller 1941 -2009 Memorial Web Page http://www.iamdrtiller.com/ http://www.remembertiller.com/

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zookeeper Status: The floor is lava!! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Soap Fortress Gender: Male Age: 30 Posts: 1,066	I think they should sue the inventors of baseball for putting the pitcher's mound too close to the plate. Or sue ESPN for televising baseball, thus making their son want to play the sport. __________________ You leapt into the abyss, but find It only goes up to your knees, ~ Nick Cave

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10-30-2009, 02:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
coldmorning Status: Add water and shake Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northern California Gender: Male Posts: 2,122	That's absolutely retarded.

10-30-2009, 04:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
glarmph Status: Hiding in my basement Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Gender: Male Age: 25 Posts: 243	Same stupid crap, different day.

10-30-2009, 07:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
OneIsALonelyNumber Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Midwest Age: 39 Posts: 2,824	Insane.

10-31-2009, 03:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
00Athena00 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Iowa Gender: Female Age: 24 Posts: 86	It sounds like this case was decided more out of sympathy for the family than consideration for the law. It's sad that this kid died, but the premise of their suit is a stretch. The jury probably figured that the family deserved the money and the company could afford it. I honestly don't think that putting a warning label on the the bat would have prevented the boy's death.

10-31-2009, 04:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cerberus Status: SAS Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 5,721	It seems like people want to wrap everything in bubble wrap these days. "You need a little danger in Your life! What Are You gonna do, play with Your prick for another 30 years? Read People magazine and eat at Wendys til the end of time? Take a ****in chance!" -Carlin __________________ "Through the valleys grey Through the shapeless land I walk alone I'm left alone Through the deepest void, a blackened paradise I walk alone, I'm left alone"