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whats does klonopin do?

what does klonopin do to your brain to calm social anxiety like what chemicals does it react with dopamine gaba ? I finally got the balls to call a doctor and tomorrow i will ask him if he will prescribe it. Thanks
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Re: whats does klonopin do?

it calms you down, thats about all you need to know about it.

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Re: whats does klonopin do?

heres what i found ... benzodiazepines act by enhancing the effects of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) If picamilon didn't work by increasing gaba why do you guys think this would work?
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heres what i found ... benzodiazepines act by enhancing the effects of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA)
yep sounds about right

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If picamilon didn't work by increasing gaba why do you guys think this would work?
I have no idea what picamilon is and ive heard of and tried many many many drugs.

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Re: whats does klonopin do?

ok my bad it enhances the effects of gaba but doesn't increase it.
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picamilon is gaba bonded with niacin b vitamin the niacin lets the gaba cross the blood brian barrier.
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Re: whats does klonopin do?

Benzos like Klonopin arre GABA agonists. This means that it does not "add" GABA but rather it makes what you have bind better.

I have heard that they have a least some effect on Serotonin as well.
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Re: whats does klonopin do?

This may explain in part why I felt nothing when taking Picamilon, but for Klonopin I did.

Perhaps there's already 'enough' GABA in my brain; meaning, it's already saturated. It only needs to be activated.

Knowing what I knew about Picamilon at the time - GABA bonded to niacin for easy cross-over into the BBB - I had expected it to work, only to find out that it didn't. And that's assuming that it is getting into the blood and not being quickly absorbed in the stomach. Without actually analyzing the blood, it would be hard to say.

And since the GABA just needed to be activated, which is what benzos primarily do, then that would explain why it worked extremely well in the beginning.

Looking at my still-unused Picamilon bottles, the average dose is 100mg. I've taken a few times that amount at a time without feeling anything, even though I've anticipated it. So if the GABA is already saturated, then taking a standard dosage, or many times the standard dosage, would both result in little to no feeling.

The question then becomes, for those oversatured people, how to activate it properly. With extreme resistence to Klonopin now, even though it still works better to anything else I've tried, including Xanax and Ativan, then how might the naturally-existing GABA get bound or activated again.

I guess that's easier said than done. The mechanism by which benzos work has already been adapted to by the brain - for the most part, anyway - and so only a different mechanism will do. The same with Phenibut - different mechanism, resulting in working for a time, and then nothing. The general consensus is that benzos work short-term for a majority of people, while MAOIs work long-term for a majority of people. As much as I didn't want to go the MAOI route, due to cost and possible long-term side-effects, it seemed to be the next-best thing, and with any luck, will work better than benzos do.

I don't think I'll be holding my breath though, even when, or if, I do receive it. Spending many hours reading post after post on Dr. Bob and anxietyhelp.org for the preparation of it is exhausting enough.
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Re: whats does klonopin do?

Alcohol like effects
-Physical(muscles) and psychological relaxant.
-Mildly sedative.
-Dizyness and loss of balance at first.

except you don't have the loss of judgement and reflexes, sweating and looking/feeling drunk in general.
and the hangover...

I get weird small back pain sometimes and 0.5 mg of Klonopin totally get rid of it.
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