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Old 11-30-2009, 07:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Cool Tramadol

Does anyone have any experience with tramadol? I just ordered a bunch of it because of what ive read about it being like a fast acting antidepressant/anxiolytic...and according to the many reviews ive read. Its great for social phobia.

Id just like to know if anyone has had success with this, and at what dosage, and what the addictive potential is...
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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It's just a synthetic opiod. Can be habit forming can be deadly. Just be aware of that. Dosage depends on your body and its biology; start with 10-20mg to start I think the dosage normally taken is 50mg or something.

Do a lot of research like i'm sure you will

hydrocodone or black-tar heroin will have a similar effect (jk hahaha)
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I'm getting some of this soon myself.

Dosage ranges from 50 mg at the lowest to no more than 400 mg a day at the absolute most. I'd recommend 100 mg daily. That's what I'm planning on trying out. If 100 mg doesn't work for you, you can slowly increment the dosage (e.g., 50-100 mg at a time) to see if higher doses will be more effective. Be careful though as tolerance and dependence can develop I believe even at a mere 100 mg. And yes, tramadol is indeed addictive, albeit relatively mildly so in comparison to most other opioids (hence, it's uncontrolled in the United States).
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tramadol=awesome. but of course, i got addicted....went from 1 50mg pill up to 5 50mg pills in 2 weeks. seems to work better at lower doses for me.....helps greatly with Depression, OCD, ect....but not very helpful for SA, dunno why.

id give it a rating of - LEGIT - for depression and OCD
a rating of - Not very legit - for anxiety
and a rating of - totally never will be legit - for its dependence problems, and its addiction prblems, and the TERIBBLE withdrawal (dose-dependent).

super good med, if you use it wisely, and expect some initial nausea/anxiety for a couple hours when first dosing...this feeling will go away.
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Tramadol (Ultram) is 100% useless in my experience. It comes in 50 mg pills and and is normally used for pain at doses of up to 100 mg four times daily. The 400 mg daily limit exists because it may cause seizures at higher levels.

I've tried it at 400 mg daily for several weeks years ago and it did nothing at all for me.

I've also tried it in sky-high single doses just to be really sure. Even at 800 mg in a single dose (16 pills) it still produced no noticeable effect at all on me. I'd have guessed they were sugar pills if not for the fact that they were fresh from a legitimate pharmacy and I had access to thousands of them since my mother doesn't use anywhere near as many as she gets for her arthritis. The fact that she's never increased her dosage even after 8 years of use would suggest she doesn't find them fun, though they appear to be an effective mild painkiller.

I'd rate it as having zero addictive potential. It was back more than a decade ago that the then brand-name maker of Ultram was forced by the FDA to send letters to docs warning them of the "addictive" potential. It seems this was based upon some 100 or so complaints after over 5 million prescriptions had been written. Virtually all the complaints regarding abuse or addiction involved patients with a history of opioid addiction, which hardly represents the general public. To say heroin addicts represent typical tramadol users is like saying AA members represent typical wine drinkers.
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Ive used this on and off for back pain and its had zero effect on my anxiety.
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I'm getting some of this soon myself.

Dosage ranges from 50 mg at the lowest to no more than 400 mg a day at the absolute most. I'd recommend 100 mg daily. That's what I'm planning on trying out. If 100 mg doesn't work for you, you can slowly increment the dosage (e.g., 50-100 mg at a time) to see if higher doses will be more effective. Be careful though as tolerance and dependence can develop I believe even at a mere 100 mg. And yes, tramadol is indeed addictive, albeit relatively mildly so in comparison to most other opioids (hence, it's uncontrolled in the United States).
Its uncontrolled?
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Its uncontrolled?
Yup.
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Does anyone have any experience with tramadol? I just ordered a bunch of it because of what ive read about it being like a fast acting antidepressant/anxiolytic...and according to the many reviews ive read. Its great for social phobia.

Id just like to know if anyone has had success with this, and at what dosage, and what the addictive potential is...
You've clearly not seen my thread about tramadol, have a read:

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/...ression-74753/
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thanks for the replies. Is 1 week enough time to reset tramadol tolerance after 1 week of use (100mg/day)?....i'm planning a week on/week off cycle. on my off week ill probably use neurontin and or low doses of benzos
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You want to start with 50mg 1x a day. Then build up to 2x a day spread out. Remember to spread doses every 4 hours to reduce risk of a seizure as this seems to be pretty common on Tramadol. I wouldn't even try risking it with benzos either, just seems stupid in my opinion. Plus taking more does not mean better mood enhancement, I have had quite the opposite. Less is more.

Again, see my thread for details about this.
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completely.....dude, its like the least controlled opiate ever. well of course...but thats the reason docs will prescribe it so easily....i got 2 p-docs to prescribe it, they wanted me to get off of it, and start Cymbalta or SNRIs.....but it is kinda a nice drug.
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completely.....dude, its like the least controlled opiate ever. well of course...but thats the reason docs will prescribe it so easily....i got 2 p-docs to prescribe it, they wanted me to get off of it, and start Cymbalta or SNRIs.....but it is kinda a nice drug.
Why would a docter prescribe an uncontrolled med? (if uncontrolled means that you can buy it without a prescription at a pharmacy).

Tramadol needs a prescription in my country.
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completely.....dude, its like the least controlled opiate ever. well of course...but thats the reason docs will prescribe it so easily....i got 2 p-docs to prescribe it, they wanted me to get off of it, and start Cymbalta or SNRIs.....but it is kinda a nice drug.
As an opioid it's only about as potent as codeine isn't it? codiene is readily available OTC in australia, so maybe thats why it's not that hard to get tramadol.
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Why would a docter prescribe an uncontrolled med? (if uncontrolled means that you can buy it without a prescription at a pharmacy).

Tramadol needs a prescription in my country.
uncontrolled in the U.S. means it is not a scheduled substance......you still have 2 get a prescription for it (but you can order it online without one). you won't get punished for having an uncontrolled substance without a prescription...but if you have a controlled one, you can go to jail forever if you get caught with it without a prescription.
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As an opioid it's only about as potent as codeine isn't it? codiene is readily available OTC in australia, so maybe thats why it's not that hard to get tramadol.
it kinda all depends....both are metabolized to the active metabolites..codeine=morhpine, and tramadol=O-desmethyltramadol......it all depends on your cyp2d6 function. i found both to very significantly in strenght depending on what circumstances i took them it....sometimes it would be awesome but sometimes id get nothing at all. i think tramadol's a little bit stronger than codeine, but its also not as smooth...you get more nausea and anxiety (for me at least)
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