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Old 10-22-2009, 07:31 AM   #41 (permalink)
 
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He's got a point, it's like you may aswell be taking Fen-Phen.
Hmm, i wonder how big of an issue that is, AMT was used for 20 years as an antidepressant in the sovjet union. Gotta find something to counteract that tough..
Will first experiment to know wich chemicals work best. Maybe desoxy on its own with a benzo may be enough.
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Nobody can top me.

I took Nardil and MDMA together and lived to tell about it!
im never gonna win...i dont think im gonna try taking any paxil with my Parnate either....its still hard to believe u lived to tell about it. i took paxil 40mg for 1 year...and i had a small feeling of serotonin syndrome all the time sorta...sometimes itook it with 5htp...but nothing like an MAOI
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Haha, rocknroll deifinatly is the winner

I received my "mimosa hostilis" by the way, so the first experiment i'm gonna conduct is with daily low doses of DMT

I also got some salvia but thats for other purposes lol.
be really careful with that stuff....lol and by the way, its one of the worst tastes youll ever experience. like bark, dirt, and concrete all mixed together....if you just grind the bark up in a coffeemaker and drink it with milk like i did. dude i guess people's minds are different....but DMT was really scary for me, not antidepressant at all, but maybe i potentiated it a little bit too much with Harmala Seeds. DMT is scary....really really scary... i took it at 7 in the morning, was still hallucinating at 5 o clock in the afternoon, and took risperdal to discontinue the trip.....i was actually hoping for it to cure my social anxiety. i was thinking it was gonna change my perceptions and i would be cured....it changed my perceptions but a little bit to strongly...dont take it with the Harmala or any other MAOI unless your totally prepared
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be really careful with that stuff....lol and by the way, its one of the worst tastes youll ever experience. like bark, dirt, and concrete all mixed together....if you just grind the bark up in a coffeemaker and drink it with milk like i did. dude i guess people's minds are different....but DMT was really scary for me, not antidepressant at all, but maybe i potentiated it a little bit too much with Harmala Seeds. DMT is scary....really really scary
I'm planning on taking daily low doses, tripping is not the plan here I will be trying 1gram tomorrow.
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I'm planning on taking daily low doses, tripping is not the plan here I will be trying 1gram tomorrow.
haha cool...its an interesting idea....one time i tried eating a cactus. i thought it might be one of the mescaline-containing ones..it wasnt it just tasted like green tea.
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haha cool...its an interesting idea....one time i tried eating a cactus. i thought it might be one of the mescaline-containing ones
A real trip is crazy, tried LSD once... Most horrible experience ever, but it did have a positive effect on my life tough.

I've read a few experiences on daily dosing of DMT and apperantly it has the potential to completely eleminate dysthomia, depression and boost motivation, i'm wondering wheter it would work for social anxiety.
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I received my AMT - 4FMP - Trivastal - Modafinil today, i'm a happy man!

Experimentation time!
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I've just taking modafinil, i definatly like it, it provodes me with a clean boost in energie and clairty, it doesnt cause any euphoria like amphetamines tough. For social anxiety it doesnt work but it definatly makes me feel calmer (i'v got ADHD-I).
When i take a break from the more powerfull chemicals i will definatly take this one.

As for the other things i've got, i'm first gonna buy a scale so i can dose correctly, wich is very important for powerfull chemicals.
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Hey guys, here's an update on what i'm doing.
I managed to get a job, i'm starting tomorrow
Tomorrow i'm gonna start taking the trivastal and will probebly add in memantine after a few days because i have got OCD and it should work for that.
After that i'm gonna start with AMT or 4FMP as i'm paranoid about building a tolerance to them so i'm gonna add in memantine first. Memantine has tolerance reducing properties.

I also have huge motivation issues so i'm hoping the trivastal is gonna help with that.
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Hey guys, here's an update on what i'm doing.
I managed to get a job, i'm starting tomorrow
Tomorrow i'm gonna start taking the trivastal and will probebly add in memantine after a few days because i have got OCD and it should work for that.
After that i'm gonna start with AMT or 4FMP as i'm paranoid about building a tolerance to them so i'm gonna add in memantine first. Memantine has tolerance reducing properties.

I also have huge motivation issues so i'm hoping the trivastal is gonna help with that.
good 4 u getting a job man... i read this one study, that showed that OCD behaviors in rats can be caused by dopamine agonists..and that use of nicotine can attentuate the OCD-like behaviors. It would be interesting to see if the memantine could also block tolerance to nicotine also, because apparently NMDA is responsible for nicotine tolerance. Memantine sounds like a pretty cool drug...but does tolerance develop to its effects? I mean wouldn't NMDA just upregulate? Oh, and Memantine might also be a D2 agonist...so you could be getting a whole lot of D2 agonism with the Trivastal=memantine. it seems sometimes memantine has uncool side effects...and it has a super long half life, apparently....could be a good thing, if it works, or a bad thing, if it has bad side effects. Memantine might also even have posess reversible weak MAO inhibition
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good 4 u getting a job man... i read this one study, that showed that OCD behaviors in rats can be caused by dopamine agonists..and that use of nicotine can attentuate the OCD-like behaviors. It would be interesting to see if the memantine could also block tolerance to nicotine also, because apparently NMDA is responsible for nicotine tolerance. Memantine sounds like a pretty cool drug...but does tolerance develop to its effects? I mean wouldn't NMDA just upregulate?
From all the anecdotal reports i've read theres no tolerance to memantine itself at all, altough tolerance to amphetamine could develop on memantine but it quickly goes away, and tolerance develops alot slower on memantine. Memantine should work for benzo's, amphetamines, opiates etc... Its also been shown to protect from braindamage caused by MDMA and methamphetamine.

As of nicotine, it in fact blocks the effects of nicotine.

Also i dont think a dopamine agonist would make my ocd whorse as a recreational dose of street amphetamine completely kills my OCD.
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Can't wait to hear how the AMT goes, that's number one on my list of chemicals I want to try.
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Can't wait to hear how the AMT goes, that's number one on my list of chemicals I want to try.
I just hope it would make my day at work more enjoyable, 8 hours of work is hell for me.

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Oh, and Memantine might also be a D2 agonist...so you could be getting a whole lot of D2 agonism with the Trivastal=memantine. it seems sometimes memantine has uncool side effects...and it has a super long half life, apparently....could be a good thing, if it works, or a bad thing, if it has bad side effects. Memantine might also even have posess reversible weak MAO inhibition
The first weak it has some side effects but that quickly goes away, and imo dopamine agonism is a good thing.
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Dopamine agonism with NMDA antagonism could cause pretty bad psychosis. Since you're using agonists of D2-like receptors, it could be worse than general dopaminergics like Adderall which also have pro-cognitive D1 and co. Are you taking any nootropics?
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Dopamine agonism with NMDA antagonism could cause pretty bad psychosis. Since you're using agonists of D2-like receptors, it could be worse than general dopaminergics like Adderall which also have pro-cognitive D1 and co. Are you taking any nootropics?
Not taking any nootropics atm, hmm didnt know that NMDA antagonism and D agonisim togheter increases the risk of psychosis, have you got a source for that? May leave the trivastal out then.
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Not taking any nootropics atm, hmm didnt know that NMDA antagonism and D agonisim togheter increases the risk of psychosis, have you got a source for that? May leave the trivastal out then.
Well, schizophrenia is linked to low NMDA activity and high dopamine activity, so the two combined looks like a perfect breeding ground for psychosis.
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Well, schizophrenia is linked to low NMDA activity and high dopamine activity, so the two combined looks like a perfect breeding ground for psychosis.
Allright thx, i'd better leave the trivastal out then.
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Well i started with trivastal today but didnt notice that much apart from giving me some clean energie this morning, i wasnt as tired in the morning. Trivastal can take a month to start working tough. Could still take a while before i've got the memantine so i started with the trivastal.
Tomorrow i'm going to add in 5mg of AMT.
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Today i added 5mg of AMT to my regime i did enjoy my work more and my mood is boosted but it doesnt work for my social anxiety, i do feel a slight psychedelic feeling wich should wear off soon.
AMT does improve my OCD tough so i will keep on taking it.
I'm betting things are gonna kick *** when i'm adding 4FMP or MDAI-Desoxy. I know from experience that MDMA and amphetamine cure my social anxiety and LSD did not, so its not a big suprise AMT doesnt kill my anxiety, even tough its a serotonin releaser, i think its way too weak in doses around the 5MG.

AMT definatly is a potent antidepressant tough, kills any dysthemia right away. The russians knew it was great.
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I'm gone stop taking the trivastal as it may interfere with my most important (or most promosing) treatments. Gonna add in AMT again monday and later ask my doc for memantine on which i will add 4FMP or MDAI.
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