Real Quick Question

[Dangerous]

Would it be allright to mix Marijuana (or any THC derivatives) with Adderal, or any other uppers for that matter (bupropion, etc, ect)

For some reason this is something that is Screaming at me not to do! But sometime I want to, especially at the start of a adderal crash!

[crayzyMed]

Yeah, its no problem. Be aware that MJ could intensify anxiety caused by a stimulant tough.

[Dangerous]

I know that what im saying, because it either I get self confidence from my adderal, or a lil anxiety (which I have benzos for)

But I'm not trying to smoke on the day that it give me anxiety, that wouldn't be good. Especially since I don't smoke alone unless if I get sick, (then I use marinol).

Trying to look out a couple steps ahead of time, but you just never know!

[crayzyMed]

You just gotta try, everyone reacts differendly.

[Dangerous]

Well, see I guess, because I don't have any friends here in this new neighborhood, except for people who just want to call to see if you have half on it. (dont you just love new neighborhoods) I want to get out, but smoking around people, and people that I hardly dont know for that matter is kind of tough.

[crayzyMed]

What does "half on it" mean? (i'm not english).

So basicly your saying adderall works for anxiety, so you want to make friends now and smoke MJ with them?

[Dangerous]

Haha, my bad it's some "ghetto slang". It comes from the Luniz "I got 5 on it" meaning half, or $5 on a gram.

Yeah, I guess I already made friends with him the other day at a bar, he called me and wanted to smoke today, and I told him I would get back to him, because of the adderall.. you know don't know how it will interact, so don't know what to do.

[Kush]

its fine it actually takes the anxiety away when u mix the 2

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by Dangerous

Haha, my bad it's some "ghetto slang". It comes from the Luniz "I got 5 on it" meaning half, or $5 on a gram.

Yeah, I guess I already made friends with him the other day at a bar, he called me and wanted to smoke today, and I told him I would get back to him, because of the adderall.. you know don't know how it will interact, so don't know what to do.

You will be fine

[Dangerous]

Man, everything is so crazy I snapped yesterday (AGAIN), and I went out and had some fun. It seems like everything either real good or real ****ty. I was on the Remeron and Adderal before I snapped. Went to the bar, pop a kolonopin, and after had some drinks with that guys (but didn't smoke) and I was fine, real fine.

Why does everything have to so wishy washy with medications sometimes you can't tell if there making you worse or better.

I tell you what I think I am go to do, stop the remeron except for nights I really can't sleep. (because I am paranoid of anti-d's even know I get depressed) Then, i am going to go without the adderal for a couple days, because it's been making me like too cocky. I will send a girls bunch of messages then wake up the next morning and be like WTF? and have to delete them. (that could be the beer/lyrica too they all boost confidence but I do notice I get a little too what @ssholish? when I take adderal, but then I can be real nice too)

This medicine game is a game I don't think you can win. But I wont stop until I achieve excellence!

[crayzyMed]

What happened when you snapped? Your saying everything was fine?

[Dangerous]

Originally Posted by crayzyMed

What happened when you snapped? Your saying everything was fine?

NM man, just everday drama that I can't seem to handle because I sheltered myself from people so much.

Someone was complaining because they said I didn't do something and I did, then yelled at me because I started smoking ciggs again (only when I at the bar) but they were being pretty rude about it getting in my face "So I was like I am grown man I can do what I want" and then snapped and told the person to punch me in my face, and said I would give them a clear shot.

Then, I popped a Kpin, 2 lyrica, headed to the bar and everything was fine, had a great time. Like I had no trouble in the world. It's weird it's hard to explain.

[crayzyMed]

I've read about remeron before that it made ppl more agressive, if it doesnt work for you i would stop taking it.

Have you got adderall prescribed for everyday? I'm guessing you could do pretty fine on just aderall and lyrica.
(lower the adderall dose, it will still reduce anxiety and you wont be as "cocky".)

[jim_morrison]

Originally Posted by Dangerous

Man, everything is so crazy I snapped yesterday (AGAIN), and I went out and had some fun. It seems like everything either real good or real ****ty. I was on the Remeron and Adderal before I snapped. Went to the bar, pop a kolonopin, and after had some drinks with that guys (but didn't smoke) and I was fine, real fine.

Why does everything have to so wishy washy with medications sometimes you can't tell if there making you worse or better.

I tell you what I think I am go to do, stop the remeron except for nights I really can't sleep. (because I am paranoid of anti-d's even know I get depressed) Then, i am going to go without the adderal for a couple days, because it's been making me like too cocky. I will send a girls bunch of messages then wake up the next morning and be like WTF? and have to delete them. (that could be the beer/lyrica too they all boost confidence but I do notice I get a little too what @ssholish? when I take adderal, but then I can be real nice too)

This medicine game is a game I don't think you can win. But I wont stop until I achieve excellence!

What dose are you currently taking of remeron, 30 mg tablets? if thats the case you could probly split them and drop it down to 15 mgs or 7.5 mgs on weekend nights, I've found that remeron seems to work fine so long as some of it is in your system 24/7. Though if your not depressed, then I can't see the harm in using it as a prn sleep aid only.

But yeah, I can definetly see taking too much adderal/booz/klonos etc as being a trigger for aggression or over confidence.

Remeron aggression is more like bear-with-a-sore-head/ generally moody type thing, not so much amped up full blown aggression.

[IllusionalFate]

Originally Posted by Kush

its fine it actually takes the anxiety away when u mix the 2

Yep. When I smoke I feel very socially awkward, get low self-esteem and become self-conscious. Add amphetamines to the mix, and I feel all the positives of the cannabis without having to simultaneously hate myself.

The only downside is combining the cardiovascular effects of both, but weed makes my pulse skyrocket by itself so I never notice anything different in that regard.

[Dangerous]

Originally Posted by IllusionalFate

Yep. When I smoke I feel very socially awkward, get low self-esteem and become self-conscious. Add amphetamines to the mix, and I feel all the positives of the cannabis without having to simultaneously hate myself.

The only downside is combining the cardiovascular effects of both, but weed makes my pulse skyrocket by itself so I never notice anything different in that regard.

I hear you brother. I actually smoked today!! It's been a long time. I used to smoke way too much back in the day and turned into a no good LSE coutch patio. I can't blame the MJ all the way, but i'm sure it had something to do with it.

Jim, yeah I still get depressed but it seems to leveling off, I don't know if it's just because I take my adderall like every other day, which give me motivation to do stuff, possibly the dopamine boost. But, I still get that feeling like I am pissed off at the world sometimes, and just want ruminate about garbage. So, I guess I do have depression, I used to have it real bad man, I had some crazy suicidal idealizations, especially when I tried to get off benzos because I forced, I know its now really funny but I almost climbed up a tree!

I was taking the 15mg and I stopped, but I am thinking about taking one now to go to sleep because I been having that problem latley, I am prescribed clonodine which is supposed to block the amphetamine effects, and help you get rest but latley its weird I will only sleep 4-5 hours max.

After doing enough research I think Adderall + Lyrica + a small amount of benzo = a good anti depressant. So, I don't know if I really want to give Remeron a chance, but who knows I might wake up not feeling like *** and actually like it, but i'm afraid it going to mess me up because I feel like i'm making progress, even if it's baby steps.

I was on nardil for atleast 6 months, not dissing the med, I wish I could still take it. But it did nasty things to my body, i'm a healthy size and i got stretch marks all over, I am not the first one this happened to either I read a book about the same thing. I will find it on google if anyone don't believe me. Now, seriously I am thinking about getting Tattoos to cover up some of what the nardils done because I had to go and kill the enzyme.

MAOI's or usually the only anti-d's I think are worth the bother, SSRI's I cant touch,. It's either I just stay with what I have, try a med from another class (like Remeron), or get off the adderall (plus a couple other meds) and try parnate.

[crayzyMed]

I think Adderall + Lyrica + a small amount of benzo = a good anti depressant

I agree on that one, remember to keep your doses as low possible to achieve a therapeutic effect without a feeling that your the "man" if you know what i mean.

If that doesnt work out, i would try parnate.

[jim_morrison]

Originally Posted by Dangerous

I was on nardil for atleast 6 months, not dissing the med, I wish I could still take it. But it did nasty things to my body, i'm a healthy size and i got stretch marks all over, I am not the first one this happened to either I read a book about the same thing. I will find it on google if anyone don't believe me. Now, seriously I am thinking about getting Tattoos to cover up some of what the nardils done because I had to go and kill the enzyme.

MAOI's or usually the only anti-d's I think are worth the bother, SSRI's I cant touch,. It's either I just stay with what I have, try a med from another class (like Remeron), or get off the adderall (plus a couple other meds) and try parnate.

Yeah if your only problem with nardil was weight gain, then I would definitely consider trying parnate.

[IllusionalFate]

I think replacing either the benzo or the Lyrica with a non-anticholinergic, selective SRI would be a much better option (That means no sertraline or paroxetine). Serotonin and dopamine are very synergistic. I think SSRI + Adderall + Lyrica would be much less cognitively impairing, yet more prosocial and antidepressant than combining two GABAergics with a psychostimulant.