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Old 07-20-2011, 04:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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I can't tell if this is a side effect or just from my own stress, but I was getting really depressed when I was using a gram and a half a day last week. Granted, that was an incredibly stressful time, and I wasn't eating or sleeping right, but I'd just break down crying once an hour or so, pretty violently. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced depression as a side effect, or if that was just my other issues taking over...?
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I used it as a sleep aid for about a month in moderate doses... it was amazing... the bed felt so comfortable, and I slept great. It stopped working and I think it screwed with my GABA receptors, I haven't been able to achieve much of a reaction to GABAerics anymore, including benzos.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Phenibut really helps me think, or it just calms me down so I CAN think lolz. Anyone else find this nootropic effect?
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I can't tell if this is a side effect or just from my own stress, but I was getting really depressed when I was using a gram and a half a day last week. Granted, that was an incredibly stressful time, and I wasn't eating or sleeping right, but I'd just break down crying once an hour or so, pretty violently. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced depression as a side effect, or if that was just my other issues taking over...?
Yeah i've had it once when taking Baclofen (p-Cl-phenibut). I was at my sisters wedding and been drinking as well, and I ended up feeling really depressed and in tears about my problems. I used to get the same thing post GHB/GBL binge.

It was probably the stress mixed with the amp'd emotions GABAergics can bring some people. However I see you are taking it ever day which isn't a good idea. We did warn you!
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I used it as a sleep aid for about a month in moderate doses... it was amazing... the bed felt so comfortable, and I slept great. It stopped working and I think it screwed with my GABA receptors, I haven't been able to achieve much of a reaction to GABAerics anymore, including benzos.
Yes that is why it's not recommended to be used daily.
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Phenibut really helps me think, or it just calms me down so I CAN think lolz. Anyone else find this nootropic effect?
Yeah I do.
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I used it as a sleep aid for about a month in moderate doses... it was amazing... the bed felt so comfortable, and I slept great. It stopped working and I think it screwed with my GABA receptors, I haven't been able to achieve much of a reaction to GABAerics anymore, including benzos.
Phenibut,strikes,again.
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Phenibut,strikes,again.
wow!!

Question - Can benzos cause the same damage?
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Question - Can benzos cause the same damage?
No,phenibut,is,a,disaster,GHB,benzo's,etc,are,all, far,better.

I,tried,phenibut,for,a,while,myself,but,was,guarde d,with,a,big,tolerance,stack,to,prevent,any,perman ent,downregulation.
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Benzo,withdrawal,is,pretty,much,horrible,tough,wor se,then,phenibut,withdrawal,however,using,benzo's, with,nmda,antagonists,like,memantine,can,help,alot ,at,preventing,this.
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Benzo,withdrawal,is,pretty,much,horrible,tough,wor se,then,phenibut,withdrawal,however,using,benzo's, with,nmda,antagonists,like,memantine,can,help,alot ,at,preventing,this.
If I got a benzo, how could I get my dr to prescribe me memantine? Do you think I could get away from Phenibut down regulation by taking it at max once a week?
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Yes,taking,it,that,rarely,should,work.

Im,not,sure,perhaps,by,printing,some,study's,and,s tuff.
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No,phenibut,is,a,disaster,GHB,benzo's,etc,are,all, far,better.

I,tried,phenibut,for,a,while,myself,but,was,guarde d,with,a,big,tolerance,stack,to,prevent,any,perman ent,downregulation.
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Do you think I could get away from Phenibut down regulation by taking it at max once a week?
Yes, I said this earlier. Keep it to once or twice a week max. Taking it everyday is a recipe for disaster. Some people say they can manage it but I don't think it's worth the risk of potentially losing its power forever.
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lol This stuff is really that powerful?????????? I found the stuff would have a mild stimulating effect on me. So would take a good wile for the sleep type buzz to kick in. Im sure you guys are over reacting. This stuff is legal to buy in supplement stores ect... if so powerful, why is this?
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lol This stuff is really that powerful?????????? I found the stuff would have a mild stimulating effect on me. So would take a good wile for the sleep type buzz to kick in. Im sure you guys are over reacting. This stuff is legal to buy in supplement stores ect... if so powerful, why is this?
Nobody said it was that powerful. It is a mild buzz, but the fact is that if you take it too much you will very likely develop a tolerance and have awful withdrawal symptoms when coming off it.

Trust us, we're not overreacting! Many people have experienced this and it's why caution and restraint is always advised.
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I never had much of a withdrawal from this though... it just stopped working. I wish I knew its risks of down regulation at the time.
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Has there been much established in the way of long term effects concerning phenibut? How serious is the down regulation of the brain?
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lol This stuff is really that powerful?????????? I found the stuff would have a mild stimulating effect on me. So would take a good wile for the sleep type buzz to kick in. Im sure you guys are over reacting. This stuff is legal to buy in supplement stores ect... if so powerful, why is this?
It's different person to person. I took a low dose of 1g and didn't feel much but then I took 1.5g and I felt awesome. I was just in an awesome mood and anxiety free. I actually wanted to talk to people. Placebo or not it worked awesome for me. Even if it's a placebo I will take that. Do you really think Russia would make you get prescription of it for nothing? Yes you need a prescription in order to get it in Russia. Also, people who have normal GABA levels wouldn't really be effected. Like my friend for example feels nothing on it.
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