fraidycat said:
hmm..what do you guys take to stay awake again? so far it's snacks (which doesn't help cuz im noticing weight gain) and caffeine.
Thanks Rune for the offer, at this time i really need it since i've lost my job and pay out of pocket to see my doctor. I try to limit my visits. ok, a couple of questions:
1. Do you suggest that I stay steady at 60mg for a total of two months or should I slowly raise it up to 75 within the next two months. I'm confused that im not feeling the full nardil effect because im either not on 60mg long enough. Or i'm one of those that needs a higher dose. Of course w/a higher dose comes more side effects. I can't quite take a blood test either...money =/
2. what does nardil fully working properly feels like?
3. Do you still use klonopin? when/ and how? I notice i use it less and less unless it's to sleep. Now klonopin makes me dizzy when added on top of nardil, but i miss that all over relief feeling i get from klono.
side note: I usually take my doses at 30-8am, 15-1230pm, 15-3:30pm. I heard that helps a lot better with sleep. I'm not sure if i tire out earlier due to waking up earlier or b/c of my last nardil dose at 330
cindy
Hi Cindy!
To stay awake if you get drowsy it's best to do something physically active, at least for me, coffey doesn't help me much, but i drink alot anyways
. I also gained a bit of weight so I'm more careful with what i eat now. I'm sorry to hear you lost your job, and also that you have to pay for your doctor appointments, maybe your meds too? Here in Norway we're lucky enough to recive free healtcare and meds after we've reached a sum of about 1600NOK or aprx. 300$ per year. Ok.
Question 1: Since you're not satisfied with the effect I would recommend that you try to increase the dosage, but as you said, you'll probably get more sideeffects. I was on 90mgs after a couple of months, but my bloodpressure got so low that I risked fainting after. ie. sitting for an hour on a bus and standing up to fast. 75mgs was better, but it's my philosophy to use as little as possible of chemicals so I try to get by on 60mgs. But remember, the biggest problem when getting up to higher doses is that you are more likely to have a bad bp-reaction to the wrong foods, so be careful.
Question 2: It's kind of hard to say, but the increase in serotonin affects mood, sleep, apetite and alot of actions in your body. Adrenaline and nor-adrenaline is activating and is supposed to make you more energic. The increase in gaba, that makes the maoi Nardil unique, is belived to be responsible for the sedating and anxiolytic effects. It also affects melatonin and dopamine, but not as much as the other neurotransmitters. But how all these combined is supposed to make you feel is probably very individual, but as you say you have good days and bad ones so you have some effect from them. But the most importatant question I ask myself when trying to decide if I want to be on a med or not is: How has my last two months been compared to the months before? And if my answer is that it has been better I stay on the meds. Nardil is not a miracle drug, and there probably doesn't excist one, but for me it has been the most helpful so far.
Question 3: I never used klonopin, but i used a similar drug called Sobril or Alopame, but after 4 months on Nardil I quit taking them. Now I use 100mg Seroquel at night to sleep better, Seroquel is not addictive, but very sedating.
I am also trying to figure out what is the optimal way to take nardil, 2,3 or 4 times a day. If anyone knows I'd be happy to know
. Kinda funny that Nardil makes you drowsy and tired in the day, but makes it hard to sleep in the night, isn't it :lol.
BTW, I'm happy to answer any question, to the best of my knowledge, and to exchange experinences about Nardil. I'm lucky enough to have a great psychiatrist that has answered all my questions in a fulfilling way, but I'm still very interested in learning more about the meds I'm using and other peoples experiences.
Rune