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micha · 11-15-2008, 08:00 AM

I've been on klonopin and lexapro 10 mg for a while,but I used to take klonopin .5mg PRN and lately I've been taking it every day,only 1 pill .5mg a day but i've been noticing that it's been making me feel down,kind of depressed....and I wonder why? anyone has been feeling the same with klonopin? I have used xanax in the past and never gave me that depressed feeling......weird....any suggestions?
Thank you
Micha

micha · 11-15-2008, 08:01 AM

Do you think I should switch to xanax? or increase my lexapro?
Micha

MavenMI6Agent009 · 11-15-2008, 08:43 AM

talk with your doctor or pharmacist I have been using klonopin for a little over two years and been taking it everday. I read somehwhere that (clonazepam) Klonopin can cause you to feel depressed but a lot of antipsychiatry articles against the use of psych meds in general as a warning to the patient before he or she stops their medication.

AprilEthereal · 11-15-2008, 03:51 PM

I'd agree that it causes depression. Atleast when you take it every day. You just turn zombified without knowing it. It depends on our tolerance.

Wellington · 11-15-2008, 03:53 PM

IMO prn use would not cause depression. But, long term constant use probably does, in alot of causes, exacerbate depression. I might change to valium or xanax since ativan didn't work too great for me.

Don't get me wrong, klonopin PRN works for me but valium and xanax hit faster.

micha · 11-15-2008, 04:00 PM

Thanx for your replies...

paul6237 · 11-15-2008, 06:18 PM

I've been put on .5mg klonopin 3x a day for the past month and a half. Yea I'm depressed but a lot has been going on for the past few months too. It could possibly be adding to it though, it could be a factor.

KurtG85 · 11-16-2008, 02:03 PM

It enhances GABA levels which inhibits the binding of other neurotransmitters, including serotonin, so yah it can definitely cause feelings of depression in people. Most any psychotropic med can cause depression in people, you just have to try em out to see what works best for you. Benzos counteract what SSRI's/SNRI's/SNDRI's etc. are trying to do so I would avoid them in combo but you never really know if it will be a good combo for you till you try.

micha · 11-16-2008, 02:31 PM

Thank you for your reply....the thing is that I've been taking this combo for a while,I was on klonopin PRN first and I was fine not until recently when I started taking it daily....what if I increase lexapro ?or maybe decrease klonopin to .25? and let say that this is not the right combo then I should wean off klonopin slowly untill i find another medication?
Thank you

korey · 11-16-2008, 02:52 PM

All CNS depressants can cause or worsen depression, according to my first psychiatrist. I never made the connection between the terms "CNS depressant" and "depression" until he told me this because I had always assumed that CNS depressants simply slowed down the body and didn't really have much to do with psychological depression, but apparently continual usage of CNS depressants like benzos can indeed cause or worsen depression. It makes sense given the fact that this increase in depression that you describe seems to have coincided with your increase in Klonopin usage. I'm guessing that it's more than coincidence. I can't tell you how to remedy this because I'm not a medical professional, but either of what you've suggested so far sounds like a reasonable place to start with your doctor.

Noca · 11-16-2008, 03:17 PM

klonopin only causes depression in 15% or less of users

DMBfan · 11-16-2008, 06:55 PM

I believe other benzos aren't noted for causing depression (xanax for instance.)

KurtG85 · 11-16-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by micha

Thank you for your reply....the thing is that I've been taking this combo for a while,I was on klonopin PRN first and I was fine not until recently when I started taking it daily....what if I increase lexapro ?or maybe decrease klonopin to .25? and let say that this is not the right combo then I should wean off klonopin slowly untill i find another medication?
Thank you

You could do any or all of those things. Personally I like to try each new med I take individually without any other in my system before I start combining. It is much easier to distinguish their individual effects on you that way. It seems you have done this, at least to some extent but it comes down to your judgment on which of the meds and what dosages have the most positive effect on your levels of functioning.

If you find that you really need the help of klonopin on a consistent basis then I would say that a good next step would be to lower the klonopin dosage like you suggested.

micha · 11-16-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtG85

You could do any or all of those things. Personally I like to try each new med I take individually without any other in my system before I start combining. It is much easier to distinguish their individual effects on you that way. It seems you have done this, at least to some extent but it comes down to your judgment on which of the meds and what dosages have the most positive effect on your levels of functioning.

If you find that you really need the help of klonopin on a consistent basis then I would say that a good next step would be to lower the klonopin dosage like you suggested.

Yes, I will decrease starting tomorrow....I hope it's gonna work.... thanx!!!!

micha · 11-16-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DMBfan

I believe other benzos aren't noted for causing depression (xanax for instance.)

I have taken xanax as needed and never felt depressed....but my Dr switched me to klonopin saying that it is less addictive....but honestly I prefer xanax to klonopin..!!!!

KurtG85 · 11-16-2008, 08:52 PM

You are probably aware of this but don't be surprised if (or when) you feel some amount of very ****ty withdrawal effects coming from a reduction in dosage of your klonopin.

micha · 11-17-2008, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtG85

You are probably aware of this but don't be surprised if (or when) you feel some amount of very ****ty withdrawal effects coming from a reduction in dosage of your klonopin.

Ohhhhhhhhhh yes ......I am expecting that....but you know what? yesterday was a good day for me with my normal intake of klonopin...isn't it weird??? Well I just woke up feeling great this morning...haven't taken klonopin yet.....what I'm gonna do is to go down from .5 to .4 I know it's hard to get an exact cut but I will try my best to do it..maybe shaving it a little.....not a bad idea right?

guitarguy · 11-17-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by micha

I've been on klonopin and lexapro 10 mg for a while,but I used to take klonopin .5mg PRN and lately I've been taking it every day,only 1 pill .5mg a day but i've been noticing that it's been making me feel down,kind of depressed....and I wonder why? anyone has been feeling the same with klonopin? I have used xanax in the past and never gave me that depressed feeling......weird....any suggestions?
Thank you
Micha

It's quite possible, that the lexapr is causing the depression. depending How long have you been on each. I have had many AD's that made me more depressed, but never had this problem with clonazepam.

micha · 11-17-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarguy

It's quite possible, that the lexapr is causing the depression. depending How long have you been on each. I have had many AD's that made me more depressed, but never had this problem with clonazepam.

Thanx for your reply!!! I have taken lexapro on and off for years,10mg,the first time i've used it was in2003 and it did wonders on me...the second time was like ok...and the third time i've been on it since december...it is helping but not like the first time....maybe I need to increase it to 15 mg ....or switching to a different one...I am seeing my dr tomorrow and will discuss this matter..I must admit I have a wonderful opened minded dr who is willing to help me all the way...he is great...I adore him!!!! Now with the klonopin...I've been on it since 2003 too on and off,I've used it as needed...like maybe 3 times a week....but recently my anxiety got worse and the dr suggested to take it daily.....and I'm not noticing some depression.....so will see what my dr will say tomorrow!!!! thanx!!!

Wellington · 11-18-2008, 10:15 AM

Klonopin is actually a good mood stabilizer. It's probably the best benzo for people struggling with Bipolar disorder.

11-15-2008, 08:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
micha Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 40	Klonopin causing depression? I've been on klonopin and lexapro 10 mg for a while,but I used to take klonopin .5mg PRN and lately I've been taking it every day,only 1 pill .5mg a day but i've been noticing that it's been making me feel down,kind of depressed....and I wonder why? anyone has been feeling the same with klonopin? I have used xanax in the past and never gave me that depressed feeling......weird....any suggestions? Thank you Micha

11-15-2008, 08:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
MavenMI6Agent009 Status: King Nothing Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: EL Crapo, Tx Gender: Male Posts: 13,476	talk with your doctor or pharmacist I have been using klonopin for a little over two years and been taking it everday. I read somehwhere that (clonazepam) Klonopin can cause you to feel depressed but a lot of antipsychiatry articles against the use of psych meds in general as a warning to the patient before he or she stops their medication. __________________ "The friend who can be silent with us in a moment of despair or confusion, who can stay with us in an hour of grief and bereavement, who can tolerate not knowing, not curing, not healing and face with us the reality of our powerlessness, that is a friend who cares." (Henri Nouwen) -------------------------------------------------------

11-16-2008, 02:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
KurtG85 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Missouri Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 472	It enhances GABA levels which inhibits the binding of other neurotransmitters, including serotonin, so yah it can definitely cause feelings of depression in people. Most any psychotropic med can cause depression in people, you just have to try em out to see what works best for you. Benzos counteract what SSRI's/SNRI's/SNDRI's etc. are trying to do so I would avoid them in combo but you never really know if it will be a good combo for you till you try. __________________ Rule #1 for people new to psych meds: http://www.depressionforums.org/foru...hp?act=SR&f=55 Meds I have experience with: Celexa, Lexapro, Paxil, Prozac, Luvox, Zoloft, Desipramine, Nortriptyline, Imipramine, Remeron, Wellbutrin, Cymbalta, Pristiq, Effexor, Trazodone, Risperdal, Geodon, Abilify, Buspar, Dexedrine, Focalin, Adderall, Concerta, Ritalin, Ativan, Klonopin, Neurontin, Guanfacine, Lamictal, Lithium, Provigil, Strattera, Most all the herbal stuff.

11-16-2008, 02:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
micha Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 40	KurtG85 Thank you for your reply....the thing is that I've been taking this combo for a while,I was on klonopin PRN first and I was fine not until recently when I started taking it daily....what if I increase lexapro ?or maybe decrease klonopin to .25? and let say that this is not the right combo then I should wean off klonopin slowly untill i find another medication? Thank you

11-16-2008, 02:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
korey Status: SAS Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Gender: Male Age: 22 Posts: 1,835	All CNS depressants can cause or worsen depression, according to my first psychiatrist. I never made the connection between the terms "CNS depressant" and "depression" until he told me this because I had always assumed that CNS depressants simply slowed down the body and didn't really have much to do with psychological depression, but apparently continual usage of CNS depressants like benzos can indeed cause or worsen depression. It makes sense given the fact that this increase in depression that you describe seems to have coincided with your increase in Klonopin usage. I'm guessing that it's more than coincidence. I can't tell you how to remedy this because I'm not a medical professional, but either of what you've suggested so far sounds like a reasonable place to start with your doctor. __________________ Rx: Wellbutrin SR 300mg, Eskalith CR 900mg, Luvox 100mg, Somnote 500-1000mg prn Things I have tried: Lexapro, Zoloft, Celexa, Prozac, Paxil, Effexor XR, Remeron, Wellbutrin SR, Eskalith CR, Topamax, Valium, Xanax, Ativan, Ambien, Desyrel, Ritalin, Adderall, Dexedrine, Inderal, Lopressor, Thorazine, Lamictal, Abilify, Depakote, Geodon, Seroquel, doxepin, chloral hydrate

11-15-2008, 08:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
micha Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 40	Do you think I should switch to xanax? or increase my lexapro? Micha

11-15-2008, 03:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
AprilEthereal Status: STOMP SA IN THE FACE!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: United States Gender: Male Age: 23 Posts: 1,095	I'd agree that it causes depression. Atleast when you take it every day. You just turn zombified without knowing it. It depends on our tolerance.

11-15-2008, 03:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Wellington Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 323	IMO prn use would not cause depression. But, long term constant use probably does, in alot of causes, exacerbate depression. I might change to valium or xanax since ativan didn't work too great for me. Don't get me wrong, klonopin PRN works for me but valium and xanax hit faster.

11-15-2008, 04:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
micha Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 40	Thanx for your replies...

11-15-2008, 06:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
paul6237 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: yonkers Age: 22 Posts: 57	I've been put on .5mg klonopin 3x a day for the past month and a half. Yea I'm depressed but a lot has been going on for the past few months too. It could possibly be adding to it though, it could be a factor.

11-16-2008, 03:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Noca Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Gender: Male Age: 23 Posts: 14,079	klonopin only causes depression in 15% or less of users

11-16-2008, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
DMBfan Status: SAS Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 175	I believe other benzos aren't noted for causing depression (xanax for instance.)

11-16-2008, 08:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
KurtG85 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Missouri Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 472	You are probably aware of this but don't be surprised if (or when) you feel some amount of very ****ty withdrawal effects coming from a reduction in dosage of your klonopin. __________________ Rule #1 for people new to psych meds: http://www.depressionforums.org/foru...hp?act=SR&f=55 Meds I have experience with: Celexa, Lexapro, Paxil, Prozac, Luvox, Zoloft, Desipramine, Nortriptyline, Imipramine, Remeron, Wellbutrin, Cymbalta, Pristiq, Effexor, Trazodone, Risperdal, Geodon, Abilify, Buspar, Dexedrine, Focalin, Adderall, Concerta, Ritalin, Ativan, Klonopin, Neurontin, Guanfacine, Lamictal, Lithium, Provigil, Strattera, Most all the herbal stuff.

11-18-2008, 10:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
Wellington Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 323	Klonopin is actually a good mood stabilizer. It's probably the best benzo for people struggling with Bipolar disorder.