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Old 04-15-2009, 03:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Anyone else take this combination?
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i feel like i need this combination sometimes, with my lack of energy at times...

but no i dont...
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Noca takes it (with Paxil and his other meds). Should be one of the most effective drug combinations for people with treatment resistant SA, a good SSRI like Lexapro or Zoloft can be added.
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I know Noca takes it. <3 I just wondered if he and I were the only ones. I guess that is just one more thing he and I have in common!
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Benzo disinhibition is soooo obvious, even over the internet. I am so glad to be off that crap and have my mental function back -- I swear I've probably gained at least 20 IQ points since withdrawal. Only now with the "benzo goggles" off can I see how retarded I was acting. Anxiety exists for many reasons, and one of them is to keep you from being a dumbass.

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Benzos make you stupid? How long do you have to be on them to have that side effect?
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However long it takes for the pill to kick in, at a moderate dose. It's a direct effect of the drug, not a long-term brain damage sorta thing (well, AFAIK with most benzos), so goes away after withdrawal. You may not realise it at the time, just like drunk people don't realise how many regrets they're gonna have in the morning.

I found it to be clearly dose-related, such that 0.5mg Kpin produces only minimal impairment of intellect, while 2-3mg makes me dumb as bricks. I mean, not to the point where I'm a babbling idiot, but enough to prevent me making progress with my education and enough to make me say the stupidest things to people. Like being drunk but without the slurring, stumbling around bit. Y'know, misinterpreting cues, speaking your mind where inappropriate, etc. I can always tell if someone I'm speaking to is on benzos, even if I don't know them and even at moderate/low doses.

I'm so anti-benzo these days because I know there are drugs that work for mood disorders yet don't screw up intelligence. Serotonin and dopamine-acting drugs instantly come to mind, with the addition of beta-blockers for anxiety, for example. If I were you I'd be taking carvedilol with Adderall, not Kpin.
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I've had major exams on 8mg/day of Klonopin + 400mg Topamax (with success) and didn't do stupid things or thought about doing them (eg. lets invade Iraq...).
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They don't affect recall too much, but totally destroy your ability to form new memories in high doses. I'm guessing you studied for the exams while sober?
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No, under influence. It was my prescribed medication at that time.
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I have noticed that I can not speak clearly when I take Klonopin. Great! That is just what I need a med that is going to make me stupid and cause gain/loss at work! UGHH! Topamax made me ditzy enough good lord!
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No, under influence. It was my prescribed medication at that time.
Were you taking cholinergic supplements (e.g. huperzine), or any stimulants at the time? I honestly can't see how anyone would be capable of academic functionality on high doses of clonazepam without nootropics. How big was your tolerance?
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No nootropics or stimulants. I had a history of GHB and alcohol abuse, may tolerance to GABAergics is very high - 80mg zolpidem won't knock me out for example, although I've just taken maybe 40-50 Ambien pills in my life, probably less.
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I'll have to blame it on the tolerance then. I can't imagine any completely non-tolerant person being on 2mg all the time and succeeding as a med student.
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Epileptics can be on 8mg Klonopin daily in combination with other anticonvulsants and still be happy and successful persons.
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The maximum dose for klonopin is 20mg per day for people suffering from seizures. I'm sure .5-2mg klonopin in a day won't cause too many problems as long as you start out low and don't jump too high too fast.
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I have both meds, but rarely take them & very rarely at the same time. I don't know how many times they can be used per week to avoid tolerance. If I had some crystal ball that showed then I might try it.

I already am smart enough I can afford to drop a few IQ points, so not worried about that part. Just about having to take more & more & more & more to get the same effect.
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Benzo disinhibition is soooo obvious, even over the internet. I am so glad to be off that crap and have my mental function back -- I swear I've probably gained at least 20 IQ points since withdrawal. Only now with the "benzo goggles" off can I see how retarded I was acting. Anxiety exists for many reasons, and one of them is to keep you from being a dumbass.

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At a low dose you should be ok. You can tell if your actions are obvious to others around you. If you are slurring, acting high, you know when you are. If you are drunk you know when your making an *** out of yourself.
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If you are drunk you know when your making an *** out of yourself.
Depends on dose.
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