effective stimulant for SA

[Payn]

I am interesting to know, if there is any legal, non-prescription and effective stimulant for social anxiety (as a substitute for Adderall or Ritalin) ?

Recently, I've tried PEA + selegiline combo, I took 5 mg of selegiline with 300 mg of PEA, but time of duration of combo effect is too short(maybe 15-30 minutes). I am going to try Desoxy, is a stimulant, and has a long half life without any slide effect.

Has anybody here tried any available, effective stimulant for SA ?

[crayzyMed]

I tried MDPV wich is legal in my country, it completely abolished my social anxiety in high doses, but the big downside was that it made me extremely paranoid, wich was odd because most ppl dont report any paranoia with MDPV. It was a very unpleasant experience, however i seem to get paranoia pretty fast (this is also the case with amphetamine, altough not as strong). In low doses it didnt work that good for SA and only made me paranoid.

I do however suggest you to try to get a prescription for dexedrine or something else, as most of those legal stimulants are unresearched and this is NOT recommend if you dont know what you are doing.

By the way, i tought MDPV can be considered an analogue of ritalin in the US, so its not legal there.

[GnR]

Hey crazymed, have you tried desoxy as well, or just MDPV. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though MDPV may be more of a rec style RC.

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by GnR

Hey crazymed, have you tried desoxy as well, or just MDPV. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though MDPV may be more of a rec style RC.

I havent tried desoxy yet. MDPV is known to not be as recreational as normal amphetamines, it doesnt cause as much euphoria as amphetamines.

[nork123]

are stimulants even that effective for social anxiety? I always saw them as something that would cause anxiety, although I've never actually tried any

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by nork123

are stimulants even that effective for social anxiety? I always saw them as something that would cause anxiety, although I've never actually tried any

It depends, downers do absulutely nothing for my SA while uppers completely cure me. Some ppl seem to notice the opposite.

[nork123]

hmm, I might give them a try to see how I react to them. Are there any effective non prescription ones? if not then how easy is it to get a prescription? I imagine there is quite a lot of abuse potential and that doctors would probably be quite wary about prescribing them. Are there any that are easier to get hold of than others, because I know adderall can be quite hard to get

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by nork123

hmm, I might give them a try to see how I react to them. Are there any effective non prescription ones? if not then how easy is it to get a prescription? I imagine there is quite a lot of abuse potential and that doctors would probably be quite wary about prescribing them. Are there any that are easier to get hold of than others, because I know adderall can be quite hard to get

They are all prescription, except the ones that can be ordered as research chemicals wich i strongly advice against doing that if you dont know what your doing.

Finding a doc thats open for prescribing stimulants is your best option (i know easier said then done).

[nork123]

Yeah, I would never touch any of that methedrone/methelone stuff. Its really popular where I am at the minute and seems to have become a lot of peoples drug of choice instead of cocaine or mdma because of how cheap and easy it is to get but I know a lot of people that have got really messed up on it and ended up in hospital. It just seems really dangerous to me, apparently its sold as plant fetilizer or something so they can get away with it

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by nork123

Yeah, I would never touch any of that methedrone/methelone stuff. Its really popular where I am at the minute and seems to have become a lot of peoples drug of choice instead of cocaine or mdma because of how cheap and easy it is to get but I know a lot of people that have got really messed up on it and ended up in hospital. It just seems really dangerous to me, apparently its sold as plant fetilizer or something so they can get away with it

Mephedrone and methylone are completely recreational anyway and completely useless and very dangerous to take for SA. I know mephedrone is getting very popular as ppl can sell it legally on the streets. I personally used it twice recreationally but i try to limit my use of it as several ppl have reported severe vasoconstriction caused by taking too much mephedrone.

[belfort]

crazymed-do you find stimulants to be effective 100% of the time??do they cure your anhedonia??i find stimulants do the trick most of the time but sometimes they almost backfire on me, meaning they make me irritable, lethargic, more introverted, increased anhedonia...dunno why that is..

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by belfort

crazymed-do you find stimulants to be effective 100% of the time??do they cure your anhedonia??i find stimulants do the trick most of the time but sometimes they almost backfire on me, meaning they make me irritable, lethargic, more introverted, increased anhedonia...dunno why that is..

They COMPLETELY abolish my social anxiety, and this effects lasts 12 hours after the stimulant stopped working (an afterglow or something).

However those are pretty big(recreational) doses (Dont try this at home!), and i havent had the chance yet to try dexedrine in normal therapeutic doses. I beleive that normal doses could replicate the effects of the afterglow i've allways got.

Which also is interesting is that stimulants even abolish my OCD.

[nork123]

Is ephedrine at all effective against social anxiety? because i've heard its similar in structure to amphetamine and should be fairly easy to get hold of

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by belfort

crazymed-do you find stimulants to be effective 100% of the time??do they cure your anhedonia??i find stimulants do the trick most of the time but sometimes they almost backfire on me, meaning they make me irritable, lethargic, more introverted, increased anhedonia...dunno why that is..

I do have experience with ritalin wich never worked tough. Even in high doses. You seem to be suffering from amphetamines comedown, i beleive most ppl prevented that by redosing untill they go asleep.

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by nork123

Is ephedrine at all effective against social anxiety? because i've heard its similar in structure to amphetamine and should be fairly easy to get hold of

I have personally tried pseudoephedrine with limited succes, at doses wich it started to work, it would have been way to bad for the hearth.

[belfort]

ephedrine worked for me especially if i got a workout in while under influence of ephedrine..not as effective as adderall though of course..

i dont think its the comedown that im talking about..i mean, sometimes after an hour or so after dosing adderall i feel edgy, very focused but not socially motivated..in fact, i feel perfectly fine with doign nothing but surfing the net etc etc...

CRAZY-what does your pdoc say about the effectiveness of stims for SA??does he reommend daily use??thats the problem i find, you cant take stims every day, all day for years on end without nasty side effects...

[crayzyMed]

Originally Posted by belfort

ephedrine worked for me especially if i got a workout in while under influence of ephedrine..not as effective as adderall though of course..

i dont think its the comedown that im talking about..i mean, sometimes after an hour or so after dosing adderall i feel edgy, very focused but not socially motivated..in fact, i feel perfectly fine with doign nothing but surfing the net etc etc...

CRAZY-what does your pdoc say about the effectiveness of stims for SA??does he reommend daily use??thats the problem i find, you cant take stims every day, all day for years on end without nasty side effects...

I would suggest to try dexedrine, some ppl say it has less side effects.

I dont have a pdoc as most throw SSRI's at you anyway, when i want something prescribed i just talk about it with my normal doc. I'm also trying some RC's atm wich i do not recommend to do but i personally am into trying some new things.