Can anybody explain this?

[fcbfcb]

Originally Posted by jim_morrison

Subjectively, how do the hypnotic benzos like temazepam feel compared to clonazepam or alprazolam in terms of sleep?

In my experience temazepam's rapid onset was pleasant, a rapid sedation that was more like a shot on the arm than other benzo's and definitly more hypnotic. This provided a brief window of opportunity to slip quickly into sleep. I found that if I missed this window, it was not a great sleep aid and only mildly sedating. There was never any next day grogginess, but that sort of thing never bothers me. After I grew tolerant to 30mg, temazapam was worthless. My doctor would not prescribe any higher. If I doubled up - it was a for sure knock out, but at that point so was an equivalent dose of any other benzo. I'm curious as to how much better triazolam might be.

[jim_morrison]

Originally Posted by meyaj

That's very difficult to describe. Temazepam just feels really warm and comfortable. Much better for sleep than any of the other benzos I've tried.

Speaking of all these sleep meds, may I ask, do you drive?

[meyaj]

Originally Posted by jim_morrison

Speaking of all these sleep meds, may I ask, do you drive?

Yep. And I've never been in an accident if that's what you're trying to get at

[jim_morrison]

Originally Posted by meyaj

Yep. And I've never been in an accident if that's what you're trying to get at

Lol, nope wasnt getting at that, was just curious as to which sleep meds adversely affected your driving/concentration the most, since youve tried quite a few.

[meyaj]

Originally Posted by jim_morrison

Lol, nope wasnt getting at that, was just curious as to which sleep meds adversely affected your driving/concentration the most, since youve tried quite a few.

On the benzos and zopiclone, I'm almost always fine driving in the morning. I'm not a big coffee drinker though, so when I was trying out the antihistamine-type sedaters (benadryl, hydroxyzine, seroquel, zyprexa), I would get a ride from a family member because I was feeling too groggy, just to play it safe.

Not that I have much of a life anyways. If I NEED to get somewhere, it's usually a doctor's appointment of some kind.

[StevenGlansberg]

Exact post I made on another forum:

This is kind of a weird thing I've noticed about myself, but I seem to be "feeling" the best when I am hungover. Usually I'm pretty tense, socially anxious, not real talkative, thinking about being depressed when I'm sober or even drunk. But the next morning after drinking when I wake up mentally I feel great. Physically can range from terrible to fine but I'm usually happy, more outgoing, talk more, not worried about much just in a really good mood. And it usually lasts until the hangover is over...

It's good to know that I'm capable of feeling that way but it sucks that it doesn't appear at any other time. Anybody have similar feelings or know why this might be?

I know it's not just the alcohol but on the other hand I'm positive it's not just having a good time. It's a different feeling than just being in a good mood, it's being totally carefree, having confidence, all smiles, laughing...I dunno, hard to describe.

I've had this experience both on and off medication. More so off if I remember correctly. I don't think it happens every time but it happens enough that it's noticeably not me just being in a random good mood. Really wish I knew what the cause of it was so I could try and reproduce the feeling.

[euphoria]

This is just a guess, but NMDA antagonists such as ketamine have been used to produce rapid and somewhat lasting (IIRC) recovery from depression. Alcohol is an NMDA antagonist, maybe it's doing something similar.

[Medline]

Like meyaj I think these effects might be a result of bad sleep quality which could resemble sleep deprivation. But that's just a theory and in the end we'll never know. Personally hangovers are the last thing that help my social anxiety, but I don't drink excessily anymore anyways.

[jim_morrison]

Originally Posted by euphoria

This is just a guess, but NMDA antagonists such as ketamine have been used to produce rapid and somewhat lasting (IIRC) recovery from depression. Alcohol is an NMDA antagonist, maybe it's doing something similar.

Even though alcohol is an NMDA antagonist, it doesn't seem to produce Disassociation like the other NMDA antagonists, any thoughts on why this may be?

[meyaj]

Originally Posted by jim_morrison

Even though alcohol is an NMDA antagonist, it doesn't seem to produce Disassociation like the other NMDA antagonists, any thoughts on why this may be?

Because it's a messy drug that acts on many other receptors and to get to any noticeable level of dissociation, you'd probably already be passed out from its other effects.