Social Anxiety Support

metamorphosis · 11-18-2009, 06:12 AM

I see the pdoc next week and he seems open to possibly prescribing me Adderall.My question to all who can help is it's comparison to Dexedrine and other stimulants currently prescribed.I know all the meds. in the ampetamine class has the potential for tolerance build up and from the threads it seems like Adderall can do amzing things for anxiety but also should not be taken daily(maybe at a low dose) and causes lack of libido?

So my question being from all of these psychostimulants which one would be the most effective,smoothest with the fewest side effects that can be taken on a regular basis if possible?I was taking Provigil=coffee so I'm obviously looking for the heavy hitters to help w/anxiety & concentration.

Vini Vidi Vici · 11-18-2009, 08:17 AM

Dexedrine (d-amphetamine) is probably gonna be the best. next is Vyvanse (d-amphetamine XR). Then Adderral XR, then Adderral, then Concerta, then all the lame Ritalin/ritalin knock-offs like Metadate.

this list is just based on my experiences many people won't agree with me....

but D-amphetamine should be more helpful and less anxiety provoking than Racemic Amphetamine (Adderral). Vyvanse is D-aphetamine in a time-released formation...it is supposed to last all day, but ive found for me it lasts only about 4 hours. individual metabolism greatly affects Vyvanse's effectiveness...which makes it hard to dose right...some people will get no effects on Vyvanse. Adderral potently releases norepinphrine and dopamine, while Dexedrine has much lesser effect on norepinephrine. Increased Norepinephrine is responsible for alot of the anxiety and alot of the sexual dysfunction caused by Adderrall...cause it causes vasoconstriction, and thus decreased blood flow....

i think D-amphetamine (Dexedrine) taken 3 times a day is the best way to go with stimulants. It shouldnt cause as much Sexual dysfunction, and won't be as jittery. it should be alot smoother. Also, Concerta is really smooth and effective, but tolerance will develop to it faster than D-amphetamine....so it won't be effective as long. Concerta is just like Cocaine...its awesome at first then u get tolerant. D-amphetamine will work alot longer due to its distinctly different mechanism of action.

crayzyMed · 11-18-2009, 08:30 AM

Everyone would agree ritalin is lame!

Vini Vidi Vici · 11-18-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzyMed

Everyone would agree ritalin is lame!

its weak (Concerta)...and i always wanted to take more, cuz the euphoria would go away really quickly. it was sad. like i loved the shape of those pills...they were shaped like a white bullet. awesome...

crayzyMed · 11-18-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vini Vidi Vici

its weak (Concerta)...and i always wanted to take more, cuz the euphoria would go away really quickly. it was sad. like i loved the shape of those pills...they were shaped like a white bullet. awesome...

Ritalin made me euphoric (without much use in SA and ADHD-I) and sometimes it gave me incredibly bad jitters. Stupid stuff.

Vini Vidi Vici · 11-18-2009, 09:31 AM

yeah same for Concerta....it made me euphoric and not depressed anymore. but it didn't help at all with any SA or anxiety, it acutally made it worse because i started getting motor tics and twitching and stuff. ...and it made my OCD worse...i could not stop talking (to people i knew), or thinking, even though i had a horrible headache. i would lay in bed, my mind never stopping, id start thinking up these super complex psychotic theories on the existence of the universe and God....i coldn't stop thinking. it was scary...so i had to drink booze to feel better

11-18-2009, 06:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
metamorphosis Status: metamorphosis Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Englewood,CO Gender: Male Posts: 159	Adderall vs Dexedrine or others I see the pdoc next week and he seems open to possibly prescribing me Adderall.My question to all who can help is it's comparison to Dexedrine and other stimulants currently prescribed.I know all the meds. in the ampetamine class has the potential for tolerance build up and from the threads it seems like Adderall can do amzing things for anxiety but also should not be taken daily(maybe at a low dose) and causes lack of libido? So my question being from all of these psychostimulants which one would be the most effective,smoothest with the fewest side effects that can be taken on a regular basis if possible?I was taking Provigil=coffee so I'm obviously looking for the heavy hitters to help w/anxiety & concentration. __________________ The art of progress is to preserve order amid change and to preserve change amid order.

11-18-2009, 08:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Vini Vidi Vici Status: altruistic philanthropist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota Gender: Male Age: 18 Posts: 723	Dexedrine (d-amphetamine) is probably gonna be the best. next is Vyvanse (d-amphetamine XR). Then Adderral XR, then Adderral, then Concerta, then all the lame Ritalin/ritalin knock-offs like Metadate. this list is just based on my experiences many people won't agree with me.... but D-amphetamine should be more helpful and less anxiety provoking than Racemic Amphetamine (Adderral). Vyvanse is D-aphetamine in a time-released formation...it is supposed to last all day, but ive found for me it lasts only about 4 hours. individual metabolism greatly affects Vyvanse's effectiveness...which makes it hard to dose right...some people will get no effects on Vyvanse. Adderral potently releases norepinphrine and dopamine, while Dexedrine has much lesser effect on norepinephrine. Increased Norepinephrine is responsible for alot of the anxiety and alot of the sexual dysfunction caused by Adderrall...cause it causes vasoconstriction, and thus decreased blood flow.... i think D-amphetamine (Dexedrine) taken 3 times a day is the best way to go with stimulants. It shouldnt cause as much Sexual dysfunction, and won't be as jittery. it should be alot smoother. Also, Concerta is really smooth and effective, but tolerance will develop to it faster than D-amphetamine....so it won't be effective as long. Concerta is just like Cocaine...its awesome at first then u get tolerant. D-amphetamine will work alot longer due to its distinctly different mechanism of action. __________________ Current Meds: Parnate 20mg + Dextroamphetamine 5mg 3x/day +Memantine 5 mg/day+ caffeine/nicotine + Lunesta 3mg + Diagnoses- Major Depression, OCD, Social Anxiety, GAD

11-18-2009, 08:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
crayzyMed Status: The Power Of Nature Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belguim Gender: Male Age: 21 Posts: 1,146	Everyone would agree ritalin is lame! __________________ Disclaimer: Do not ever attempt the same thing i am doing, this is all very experimental and could very well damage your health.

11-18-2009, 09:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
Vini Vidi Vici Status: altruistic philanthropist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota Gender: Male Age: 18 Posts: 723	yeah same for Concerta....it made me euphoric and not depressed anymore. but it didn't help at all with any SA or anxiety, it acutally made it worse because i started getting motor tics and twitching and stuff. ...and it made my OCD worse...i could not stop talking (to people i knew), or thinking, even though i had a horrible headache. i would lay in bed, my mind never stopping, id start thinking up these super complex psychotic theories on the existence of the universe and God....i coldn't stop thinking. it was scary...so i had to drink booze to feel better __________________ Current Meds: Parnate 20mg + Dextroamphetamine 5mg 3x/day +Memantine 5 mg/day+ caffeine/nicotine + Lunesta 3mg + Diagnoses- Major Depression, OCD, Social Anxiety, GAD