SHYNESS: Ugly Guy = Creepy - Hot Guy = Myterious

[D3T0X]

why is that ?

let's say an ugly guy and a hot guy go to a bar

hot guy approaches women, she thinks he's good looking, therefore he can't be dangerous, can't rape her, will be nice, and protective

but if an ugly guy approaches women its EWW, walks away and looks at him like a dog pissed on her leg

does this come from kids movies portraying the evil as ugly and the good ones as beautiful ?

this world is so sick and twisted and its playing with my psyche

[Kakumbus]

not necessarily, ugly guys just happen to be more creepy :P thats all

[Sin]

yah i agree with you, when ever an ugly dude approaches a woman its just seen as creepy

[applesauce5482]

there's defentially a difference when it comes to looks, but I think a lot of it is exaggerated on how much difference there is. confidence has a lot to do with it

[LowKey]

I don't know. If they're shallow enough to write you off as creepy without knowing you, I doubt it's because you're shy. It's probably only because they think you're unattractive. Some girls associate ugly with "creepy", but that's just life. We don't want those girls anyway.


There is a little truth to what you're saying though. It does happen sometimes. The funny thing is, the creepiest guys are usually really good looking and charismatic. Many of the most cunning serial killers were considered moderately good looking to hot.

[thelonelyloner]

That is how you perceive the world to be. You believe this so you make it true. I believe that confidence is the most attractive trait a man can have. You can get girls with confidence, not be incredibly good looking, or really really really good looking for that matter, and still get the girl.

http://youtu.be/NHHEcmZtJvY

[Haunty]

[antireconciler]

Women are very sensitive to cues about your self-confidence and emotional state. Not that women don't form their own unique opinions, but you have to appreciate the extent to which you are informing them what they are to think about you, information they will feel some usually significant draw to go with emotionally.

Being male is ... I don't want to say "merciless", but there is some element of that. If you don't form a certain minimum self-confidence and social affability as a child ... God help you, because he is your last companion in the world.

[flagg lives]

this reminds me of ted bundy... good looking dude who approached women like it was nothing, and they thought nothing of him... obviously he was about as creepy as you can get. oh, and he killed them.

[Patriot]

Originally Posted by antireconciler

Women are very sensitive to cues about your self-confidence and emotional state. Not that women don't form their own unique opinions, but you have to appreciate the extent to which you are informing them what they are to think about you, information they will feel some usually significant draw to go with emotionally.

Being male is ... I don't want to say "merciless", but there is some element of that. If you don't form a certain minimum self-confidence and social affability as a child ... God help you, because he is your last companion in the world.

This.

[FoundAndLost]

Believe me, I have been called a "weirdo" and "creepy" more times than I can count. /inb4thelock

[ManOfFewWords]

I think no matter how physically attractive a man is, if he behaves socially awkward around women that value social competence, he'll be labeled as a 'creepy', 'strange', or whatever negative definition she wants to give him.

[TangoTiger]

True OP but I am good looking and still women find me creepy cause I'm so shy.

[Silent Hell]

Originally Posted by flagg lives

this reminds me of ted bundy... good looking dude who approached women like it was nothing, and they thought nothing of him... obviously he was about as creepy as you can get. oh, and he killed them.

I had the same thoughts about that particular serial killer when I read this post.

Although Ted Bundy was also charismatic and often manipulated people to envoke sympathy like pretending his arm was broken (with a fake cast) to get his victims to help him with a fictitious sailboat. I don't think he had any problems with shyness.

[bottleofblues]

Originally Posted by thelonelyloner

That is how you perceive the world to be. You believe this so you make it true. I believe that confidence is the most attractive trait a man can have. You can get girls with confidence, not be incredibly good looking, or really really really good looking for that matter, and still get the girl.

http://youtu.be/NHHEcmZtJvY

Yeah thats true if you look at some successful womanizers some of them aren't very good looking at all, i think looks obviously help but i do feel thats more of a guy thing, and that woman are more attracted to personality than anything.
Come to think of it i'm like that, sometimes i think i'm quite a bit like a woman probably more so than most guys.

[jimity]

A shy/social anxiety guy who is hot will often be seen as mysterious by some women but once they find out what is really up with him it's game over I'd say.

[luceo]

Good looking people are typically more likely to get the chance for social interaction and therefore build more social skills. Whereas on the other hand the less attractive person is less likely to be included or invited to social events and therefore doesn't get as many opportunities to learn things like social cues and whatnot.

[Just Lurking]

Originally Posted by D3T0X

let's say an ugly guy and a hot guy go to a bar

Sounds like the start of a bad joke!

Originally Posted by D3T0X

this world is so sick and twisted and its playing with my psyche

Most likely, if someone is having problems with the ladies, then it is their psyche that is the culprit (and it's not the world's fault!).

I'd say it's highly unlikely that your literal physical appearance is going to put off a "creep" vibe. If anything's going to do that, it will be your behaviour, your mannerisms, your body language -- things like that.

To help work on this, I'd suggest, as a start, asking people close to you for honest, constructive criticism about how you handle yourself in public.

[D3T0X]

Originally Posted by Silent Hell

I had the same thoughts about that particular serial killer when I read this post.

Although Ted Bundy was also charismatic and often manipulated people to envoke sympathy like pretending his arm was broken (with a fake cast) to get his victims to help him with a fictitious sailboat. I don't think he had any problems with shyness.

but would they go in the car if the guy with the casket looked like Marilyn Manson ?

[SnowFlakesFire]

It is exactly same when ugly girl tries to say hello to a guy... We uglies are uglies and no frying us in a butter make us more delicious

Nobody have to like us of course. But treating us like humans would be nice.