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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lost: someplace called "Earth"; UK
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Posts: 6
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Been considering it for a while now. I don't see the point in anything. Everything I do or am is just pathetic. No one would want to employ me anyway with a degree or no degree. I'm doing 100s of things at once and it is just too much I can't see myself getting it done and o be honest I can't be bothered. It's worse than school or college because there it's free now I'm paying money for hell. Oh well, who cares noone. Yea also not like I've made any friends, so far with my experience who needs them. I've always done it alone and well, I'm alive (unfortunately). In 5 days that I'm there, I only go out the flat for lectures and the seminars which is 12 hours total, the rest I do in my room (I think of it more of a cell.) |
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Status: SAS Membe
Join Date: Mar 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 438
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I think you probably do want friends right? otherwise it wouldn't bother you. I know I'd like to have some kind of social life, but I feel I'm not good enough, like everyone else has something I don't and they can all see how pathetic I am. So to avoid the pain and rejection I stay in my room, or if I'm in a tutorial I avoid speaking. But then life becomes very dull and depressing and I'm now thinking of dropping out too (hard to care much about the work when I'm so unhappy all the time, so I'm getting pretty behind). I guess it's our responsibility to change things though.....I know if I don't take risks then nothing will change. I did counselling for a bit but I think it didn't really work cause basically I have to make more of an effort. If you don't try to do things differently then it just reinforces the idea that you can't do it. Anyway you're not alone, there are probably loads of other people like us sitting in their rooms feeling like sh*te lol...what uni are you at by the way? |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Posts: 127
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My first time at uni was like how you described, feeling down and spending a lot of the time by myself in my room. I also had the added bonus of living with terribe housemates and was doing a course that I despised. I stuck with it for a year and then dropped out.
I've since gone back to Uni, and am having I'm glad to say a much better time. Ironically the only thing that's really changed though barring the course is me. I go to societies & clubs, talk with people in my seminar groups and try and socialise when ever I get the chance. I think the key is to try and put yourself out there and do things no matter what the circumstances, and no matter how akward it feels at first. Now don't get me wrong, things are not perfect for me - but they're a lot better than before, and hopefully with a little more effort I can improve further. I guess the point that I'm trying to make is not to give up just yet, things can get better. The first time you try and do something you may fail spectacularly, but please persevere. Exhaust every option before you give up. And as a side note, what uni are you at anyway?
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Status: sa challenger
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: arizona
Gender: Female
Age: 45
Posts: 2,654
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In any situation there's bound to be people who are quiet and average, not the life of the party. The majority of people are just regular people. So, try to leave your room, even for a quick meal together, or to just sit and watch a movie with a few people. If friends are important, then you need to make some moves.
Try to keep up with your schoolwork, you'll be thankful for it later.
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"Nobody's ever asked me to a party before, as a friend! Is that why you dyed your eyebrow, for the party? Should I do mine, too?" |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lost: someplace called "Earth"; UK
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Posts: 6
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When I was laying there in bed feeling ill (been coughing etc.) I got an infection and it brought out my cursed with a horrible disease called asthma. I had alot of time to think as usual not academia but about the past. I think I might have identified why I have this. If anybodys cares enough to read basically when I was in high school, I had this friend, well I thought he was a good friend that was until he stopped contacting me and stopped going out for No Reason whatsoever, rejecting my invitations pretty much everytime. I seem to remember him coming to my parents house one day because he locked himself out of his house, or allegedly. I think this was a test because after that day we didn't really speak to eachother despite my efforts throughout high school trying to get to know him again etc. And no I wasen't some dodgey stalker.
Also I seemed to be the joker in high school everyone making fun of me in some way or another in everything that I done or said, they even made up a horrible lie about me and even one of my teacher considered if it was true or not. Thinking about it now, it's no wonder why I hate people (no offence to people here) and why I think that no one should be trusted cause they just use you and stab you in the back at their own gain. There's no point even speaking tbh. Hmm also some sound advice from mother about me being ill.. well "normally" we get along great: "deal with it - it's life" well if I had a bloody choice knowing what I know I would never have chosen to be born also well I've bloody dealt with everything on my own anyway Thanks for sharing your experience with me, stardog99. I never thought of friends as important since high school but since you got me thinking mabye I care/affects me more than my conscience mind cares to think about? I don't get it, I say "hi" to people if I see them in my flat, they say hi back, that's pretty much as far as it goes. In seminar I say "hi how are you" they dont even say anything back. I don't get it. What do they want from me? Yes same here I have 6 essays due in 2 weeks and I think I'm going to fail, what an imbecile I am. Yea I guess ^^ I'm at Northampton what about you? Paper Samurai sounds horrible, at least in my flat the people are ~ok~ as far as they go i.e. no loud music only complaints is the food they eat (stinks out the kitchen - makes me heave Am vegetarian and not used to this). Hmm I mean seminars are ok so far I guess, I try and contribute when I can but saves me being picked on as sometimes they do if you haven't said something. Hope everything turns out good for you but I doubt it will for me, it never has. epril if someone is in the kitchen then I sit with them and force myself to say something, but 98% of the time they speak to someone else so it's pointless me even existing. Sorry if I've bored you by reading this. |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5
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Hey DCP11OC.
My experience of university is similar to yours. I hated university and dropped out after the first year. I stopped going to lectures after the first term. I was in catered halls and couldn't force myself to go and feel super uncomfortable in the canteen. As a result I didn't really eat and lost about 3 stone in a many months. I lived with 3 others in my corridor. By the end of the year they had stopped saying hi to me, if I saw them (which would be hardly ever as I avoided everyone). They only invited me out with them once. I imagine they thought I was a right miserable *******. Anyway, that whole experience really messed me up. I started drinking, became really depressed and kind of had a mini break down. It has affected me still and I'm a different person because of it. There are lots of services available to students. Like counselling and chaplains etc. I would advise you to talk it out. You don't have to try and deal with this by yourself. I wish I hadn't |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: England, UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 144
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You don't NEED a degree to have a good life. It helps average people get in to average jobs, but not everything happens so clean cut in life. Maybe you would be happier in a job that doesn't care about a degree. There are jobs you can just walk in to right now with no qualifications. I worked in a call centre and if you can read stuff off a screen and you have a pulse, then you are qualified. You could go and get a job in a big company where you can start at the bottom and work your way up. It might take several years, but you can end up on a really good wage. Or you get a few years experience working in a company, then a better job opportunity comes along and you can go there and all they will care about is your experience with the previous company. My mate is on £40,000 a year with all kinds of bonuses, and he doesn't have a degree. So don't feel forced to do the university thing. There is also nothing stopping you from dropping out, getting a job, and going back to uni later in life. Or do the Open University thing or something. Having said that, there are other things to consider. First off, you'll probably have some debt to pay off if you leave now. Even a couple of grand is no big deal, you can pay it off soon enough, and you can get it put in to extremely easy payments. But if you dropped out and then decided you wanted to give it another shot some day, it's a few grand you could have saved by doing it once. Also, I think it's possible to make uni work for you, at least better than it is now. You don't NEED friends to survive uni. Like I said, I was in halls and our little flat was 4 people with a shared kitchen and bathroom. 3 of us were good mates and went out together constantly, but the fella in the 4th room, he was a bit geeky and very quiet and barely left his room. He politely chatted with us when we bumped in to each other in the kitchen or something. But I talked to him the most and he was a really nice guy, and I thought he was cool because he couldn't care less about the socialising. It just never panned out for him but it was only a 3 year course and he was on year 3 all of a sudden. So he knew he had 1 more year to go, then he was out and he no doubt got on to the work ladder with an advantage and you make friends for life at work. Some people make friends for life at uni, but more often than not, they are just temporary relationships. People don't keep in touch after they leave, or they just keep in touch as distant friends and only invite each other to weddings and christenings etc. My point is that in a way, it's only 3 or 4 years and it's very insignificant when you look at "life in general" as your perspective. You can bump in to someone in a supermarket one day and find love all of a sudden, and then you get a job and there are a bunch of people you really click with and become good friends and the bingo. A few miserable years at uni don't seem so important then. My other point, is that you can make it work for you too, or you can at least try if you haven't. Everyone goes to university as a loner. Nobody knows anyone so everyone just wants to cling on to whoever they can click with. So what a lot of people don't do but should do... is join the clubs and stuff. Most people just want to hang around with their flatmates and get drunk, but the cunning people join the basketball or five-a-side teams or something. There are all kinds of things going on like that, and it's instantly an opportunity to make friends. Do it for a few weeks and see if you click with anyone, and if you don't, then try a different one. So that's my advice. Try to make it work for you. Try to make some friends to help the time pass better, by joining all the clubs and stuff. There are people all over the place who still need friends and ones who have made friends but haven't really clicked with them and are only clinging on to them because they don't want to be lonely... If you are a better option, they will become your friend instead. So make it work, and if you can't, consider just putting on a brave face and soldiering through it, knowing that it's not THAT long, and you get so many breaks to come home over all the holidays, and then once it's done, it's done for ever, and then you can pat yourself on the back for achieving it and get a leg up when getting jobs. And if all else fails, just walk out! It's not the end of the world. It feels so important when you are there doing it, but it's not. It's not worth getting all depressed over. The list of people who ditched university and went on to have great lives is too long to even mention. Don't ever forget that. Average male life span is what 65 years old or something? Being 18 and being in uni is not even a blip on that. |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: MA
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Posts: 21
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Currently at University myself, and it is tricky to stay optimistic here. I thought it would be the magic pill that would take care of my social anxiety, unfortunately the only way I'll get any better is if I take initiative, regardless of the location. I just gotta jump at the opportunities that are around me here and chip away at my social anxiety piece by piece. Things like joining extra-curriculars and contacting people who reached out to me at the beginning of the year would probably help a lot more than sitting in my room or at the library most of the time.
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Status: King of the Phoenix Realm
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Posts: 260
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I went to University out of highschool. I was so overwhelmed, I dropped out after a year and a half. It wasn't the right time for me and it lead me into depression.
It sounds like you're not ready for University which is totally okay. I'm 22 now, and I'm about ready to go back so I'm going to try again this fall. You've got your entire life to do things you want to do... When the time is right, you can go back to University at any time!! Don't stress yourself out, spend some time working and saving up... Explore your options, you may find something else you want to do. Good luck.
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: England, UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 144
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![]() When I left I got a job that I really liked, but my friend left too and he went travelling and got a job abroad and says it was the best thing he ever did. Life is full of options! |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 22
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Posts: 7
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I cancelled all my classes this semester and the university counsellor helped me to base it on medical reasons so that I could get a full tuition refund. WHich is a big deal, because im an international student, and the tuition sum is huge. But now after all that, it seems like I have nothing again...stuck in a foreign country, with only one option..that is to get a degree. But going to classes and learning and talking to people, every single thing is just hell for me. All i ever do..month after month lol ...is be in my room, it really is a freaking cell ! ANd yet I dont think I want to talk to anyone anymore, I dont even care for it. And at this point, I dont even care to tell anyone I know abt my problems, its a waste of my time and theirs, I dont think they can help me. At the same time, the only reason I left to study abroad is to get away from living with my parents, so if I had to go back home, I wouldnt be looking forward to it. ANd i dont even want to imagine telling my parents that I will go home and get a job. I know what they will say. What kind of job could I possibly get anyway? At the end of the day I will still have to go back to uni and start it all again. Im sorry abt this rambling boring post lol.. Im just ranting. |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: England, UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 144
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You can always go back to uni at some point. Your health and happiness is FAR more important than some degree. I do still think meeting people would be useful though. Whether you go back or not, people are good to be around. There are ones that are no good, especially when you are young and are around other young people. But some people are great to be around. Some people really do care and really do like to chat about things, and some people just want to have fun, watch movies, play video games, chat about stuff, and sometimes it's more fun to do that with friends than it is by yourself. If you can get to watch films with a friend or a few friends in someone elses room, at least it's some relaxation and gets you out of your own room for a while. You might even find other people going through a similar thing to you. As for what your parents will say, parents aren't perfect! This sometimes comes as a shock, but when I was your age I went through this exact same thing. My parents sent me off to university and their "motivation" was basically, get a degree or end up in some crappy little job! I dropped out and I told them I was seriously depressed and seriously unhappy and I couldn't go on with it any more. They had to take a reality check and realise that it wasn't right for me, if only at that time. Like I said in my last big post, there are plenty of jobs that you can get without a degree. Not sure what country you are from and what country you moved to, but here in the UK, there are plenty of jobs that don't need a degree. Sure there are the stereotypical jobs like working at McDonalds or whatever, but that's not a realistic view of work. Like I said, my friend dropped out of Uni in his first year so he has no degree, and he has no real qualifications besides high school ones, and now he earns £40,000 a year and drives a Mercedes. There's more to life than possessions and stuff... but my point is that plenty of people go on to have good lives and good jobs even without a degree. Maybe that's different where you are from, but I doubt it. Maybe you could try talking to your parents about it. They might surprise you and actually be supportive |
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Status: Cook
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: EL Crapo, Tx
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I dropped out of university after five years and never looked back. I wasted too much time and money for something that isnt for me.
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Status: I am, etc.
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: LA
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Posts: 1,265
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Life after school can be a lot harder and a lot less fun -- the 'real world' is not all it's cracked up to be. Try and take away as much as you can away from this experience.
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 225
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College has caused me nothing but stress, but I never had the heart to leave it - I love academia, and I used to love what I was studying. In the end it was worth the isolation, and the lack of sleep and food, being lonely. I also know that few people would even consider hiring me if I didn't have a four-year degree, even for a job that doesn't strictly 'require' one. I have worked service jobs before, and that's not what I want to do to sustain myself for the rest of my life. I'd die of unhappiness and lack of health insurance in a few years on that route.
Some people on here have said that it's entirely possible to get a job without a degree, and have given examples of people who have... but it's considerably harder for a person with SA to 'move on up' like that. I'm guessing those people were assertive and somewhat aggressive, which usually isn't the case when you suffer from anxiety. A degree is generally a major rip-off and not always 100% necessary, but if you plan on seeking professional employment it's a good thing to have around. Also, isn't college cheaper in the UK? People in the states are paying from 20,000 to 50,000 USD yearly for their diplomas. If it's the money and living at college aspect you hate the most, couldn't you transfer to something like a junior/community college? It would be cheaper and you would still be earning a degree while putting up with less social stressors. If you feel college really isn't right for you, by all means drop out. Especially if it's costing you massive sums of money. Just know that there are alternatives out there, and seek them actively instead of wasting your 'time off.' College is tough for everyone on here, particularly those who live on-campus - you're not alone in that. As for me, I've had zero friends throughout my college career and I've stuck it out. Not living among the other students has helped (depending on your perspective) a lot. |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 12
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DCP11OC
I can seriously relate to you, i read u story, its sounds similar to me. If u can be bothered to read - when i was at school in yr 10 my friends suddenly turned their back on me, and one girl in particular would ignore me, get others to do so, untill the point where i had to change school that christmas, trouble is i joined a private school, lasted 10 weeks of hell and had the embaressment of coming back to my previous school with no friends. In y10 and 11 it was even worse, my old friends put their backs to me, one in particlar even hated me, i didnt have anyone to talk to all day for 2 years so it drove me mad. Im 17, and went to a sixth form last year that sucked - obviously my confidence affected that, now im at another college, its slightly better but this one girl again loves to controll things and take over from the aqauntances i made. So i dont trust ppl neither, and i get wot u say about u do make an effort, but the majority of the time others arent bothered. I am stressed as well socially, so find it diffucult 2 b bothered 2 do work. if its too much, quit, u can always change my cousin did. in mean time sorry 4 boring u, but if u wanna chat my addy is joneskat2@yahoo.co.uk |
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Status: SAS Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 26
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sweetie, im sorry to hear you're having a tough time. i think uni was/is tough for anyone with SA. I remember feeling so lonely for my first quarter. I would wait until the last moment before the cafeteria closed so i could go in, eat quickly and leave, so as not to have anyone see me eating alone. i would go to parties with friends but have my safety net, aka cell phone so i could call a friend if i was too shy to talk to someone in person.
what helped me was literally piggybacking off of more confident people. if my confident roommate arranged a trip somewhere or lunch, i would tag along. if she met someone new, i would get to know them with the safety of having her around and then i could eventually hang out with them on my own. some call it cheating, i call it surviving. the best thing i did, throughout all of college, was get a job. i was actually forced to when my living plans fell through (surprise, surprise) and getting an on campus job guaranteed me on-campus housing. knowing how impt it was to get the job, i prepped my brains out for the interview and aced it. most of the people i worked with became my life-long friends. no joke, im 26 now and we still meet up every major holiday, even tho we're all spread out. trust me, things like jobs, sports, clubs, these are your answer. force yourself and you will find it much easier to make friends. give it a shot. don't give up. pm me anytime, k? |
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