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If you're depressed, you're living in the past. If you're anxious...

"If you're depressed, you're living in the past. If you're anxious, you're living in the future. If you're at peace, you're living in the present." -Lao Tzu

I got this off my grandmother's facebook a few months ago..
Do you think the quote is true?

I think I believe it
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What if you are both anxious and depressed, as I am (and I think I'm not the only one)? This math would say you're at peace and living in present
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No. Plenty of people live in the past and future without showing any symptoms of depression and anxiety whatsoever.
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No. Plenty of people live in the past and future without showing any symptoms of depression and anxiety whatsoever.
Yup. The quote implies that the past and future are bad and the present is good, which is not always teh case. One of the most ridiculous quotes I have ever read.
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What if you are both anxious and depressed, as I am (and I think I'm not the only one)? This math would say you're at peace and living in present
I'm depressed because I miss my past, and I'm anxious because i'm worried about future events even if it's within the next few minutes or next year.
But i'm not thinking about today, what to do today or how to enjoy myself.

That's just generally speaking ;P

If I only thought about today and what i'm doing at current time, I do think life would be a lot more simpler !
But that's definitely too hard to live by :P, for me anyways!
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If I only thought about today and what i'm doing at current time, I do think life would be a lot more simpler !
But that's definitely too hard to live by :P, for me anyways!
Right now, maybe.

But if you were say...getting burned by a flamethrower, or even taking a very difficult exam, you would not be at peace at all.
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No. Plenty of people live in the past and future without showing any symptoms of depression and anxiety whatsoever.
I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's implying that everyone who lives in the future or past is anxious or depressed, I think it's saying if you have one of these symptoms maybe that is your problem.

Because I know people who are all sorts of excited for the future and that's what they look forward to.
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Right now, maybe.

But if you were say...getting burned by a flamethrower, or even taking a very difficult exam, you would not be at peace at all.
Lol, very true
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I'm anxious, depressed, and sometimes at peace. You know what that means? I can time travel!
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Right now, maybe.

But if you were say...getting burned by a flamethrower, or even taking a very difficult exam, you would not be at peace at all.
butttt if you're able to just focus on taking the exam and not be worrying about what your grade will be and what will happen if you fail and beating yourself up for not studying more before, etc., you will probably do better and suffer less.

as for the flamethrower example, I got nothing. but I do think it's valuable to learn to focus on the present.
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butttt if you're able to just focus on taking the exam and not be worrying about what your grade will be and what will happen if you fail and beating yourself up for not studying more before, etc., you will probably do better and suffer less.

as for the flamethrower example, I got nothing. but I do think it's valuable to learn to focus on the present.
Okay, so maybe the exam is a bad example, but still. **** happens in the present is all I'm saying.
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Well it's just a witty saying or quote imo.It has some truth to it, but I don't think whatever emotion a person is feeling means that they are "living" in the past,future or present...they could be just visting or passing through. ;-)
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Without reading all the other replies, some of which I see give good reasons for disagreeing and which make me modify my response, I think the quote can often be true. I'm pretty sure it is in my case, at least. I'm depressed because I'm anxious, but the depression largely stems from bad/broken friendships and letdowns (the past); the anxiety is over the fact that I can't make friends and even if I do, it'll just go wrong again (the future). So, while you can't use it to describe EVERYBODY with anxiety or depression, I don't think it's wise to just completely write the quote off, it could have some validity for some people. IMO.

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There is truth in the quote. But anything can be interpreted different ways.

I know that if my mind is 5 seconds ahead of the conversation I am in then I am anxious. If I am present in the moment then I am free of anxiety.

I think that being present just allows me to make the most of the very moment I am in. I wish I was present more often.

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Right now, maybe.

But if you were say...getting burned by a flamethrower, or even taking a very difficult exam, you would not be at peace at all.
Maybe a thought.. If you were getting burnt by a flamethrower would being mentally in the past or future limit the pain you are in?

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I'm depressed because I miss my past, and I'm anxious because i'm worried about future events even if it's within the next few minutes or next year.
But i'm not thinking about today, what to do today or how to enjoy myself.

That's just generally speaking ;P

If I only thought about today and what i'm doing at current time, I do think life would be a lot more simpler !
But that's definitely too hard to live by :P, for me anyways!
Exactly! There is no time for living our lives with so much distraction from depression and anxiety.

I like the idea of living in the future, at least one step ahead of the present, but not this way. Everything I think about the future is anxiety-driven.
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"If you're depressed, you're living in the past. If you're anxious, you're living in the future. If you're at peace, you're living in the present." -Lao Tzu

I got this off my grandmother's facebook a few months ago..
Do you think the quote is true?

I think I believe it
its one of the basic biological evolutionary manners in which your brain works. life experiences alter physical connection in your head. your mind is always going to be rehashing the past and based on the contents of the past that somebody else ( parents, peer groups ) or you yourself unconsciously labeled in a certain manner with all the emotional **** that comes along with it. from that content your mind will project it into a imagined future scenario painted with all the emotional **** from the past.

people live there lives there. thats the beauty of meditation. it show you a 3rd option. the present moment where you can see your mind constantly going back and forth without being so caught up into it. i like to think of it ( buddhism ) as the next step in human evolution. its the route all humans are going to have to go one day if we wish to survive because the way it seems belief in everything else outside of finding out how you work internally always seems to collect a large bodycount.

only humans can develop that awareness. but you can see this way of how things work easily with animals. picture a rabbit that someone has as a pet. most of the time there fat and lazy because there entire day consists of eating sleeping and being carried around the house like newborns. now picture a rabbit thats out in the wild.

there freaking nervous wrecks. freezing at any slight noise. they have strong reason to be. at every stage of there life everythings out to get em. owls, foxes, raccoons and my dog are just waiting to tear into them. without that manner in which the brain operates they would be incredibly easy to catch. due to past experiences of being chased around the yard rabbits haul a** out of the yard when the door opens. i keep my dog in a pen when outdoors and i think the rabbits have a understanding of a fence and its purpose because they continually make multiple nests in the yard due to the foxes on the other side of the fence waiting to get them but never coming into the yard due to the dog. rabbit ingenuity at work

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I like that quote!

IF only you could sense how important you are to the lives of those you MEET;
HOW important you can be to people you may never even dream OF.
THERE is something of yourself that you leave at every meeting with another PERSON.

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It applies to me. I get depressed when I think about the past - how much I enjoyed it, how much I want to go back. And I worry a lot about the unknown future, what if its bad? What if this or that happens or doesnt happen. So yeah...stuck between two evils!
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This is good. I'm anxious, so I guess I'm living in the future.

The days go on and on... they don't end. All my life needed was a sense of someplace to go. I don't believe that one should devote his life to morbid self-attention, I believe that one should become a person like other people. - Travis Bickle
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