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Saint · 02-13-2009, 10:19 AM

Im interested to know how many of you believe that everything happens for a reason. Theres quite a few people i know who seem to believe it but i just dont quite get why?

What do you guys thinK?

dontcare · 02-13-2009, 10:27 AM

I believe it. I believe that God is running the world, and that He's orchestrating things perfectly, He does everything for a reason. It's a part of belief in God.

Metal_Heart · 02-13-2009, 10:33 AM

I don't believe it whatsoever, the concept confuses me.

Fairyxo · 02-13-2009, 10:38 AM

I believe everything happens for a reason, I believe everyone has a plan laid out for them, that's why things always work out in the end.

jas498 · 02-13-2009, 11:05 AM

Of course, things happen for a reason but the reason lies in the present and past, not the future. I suppose it all depends if you believe in something 'higher' call it what you will.

Canadian Brotha · 02-13-2009, 11:12 AM

I haven't any idea if things happen for a reason but I do think that meaning can be found in anything & everything. In other words significance/meaning is born of the individual & reasons for any given event is up for debate(In my opinion).

VipFuj · 02-13-2009, 11:36 AM

i think people use that saying to bring closure to stuff they cant understand or when something simply doesnt have a reason. makes them feel more comfortable. it's a false sense of security.

laura024 · 02-13-2009, 11:59 AM

I believe everything happens for a reason. I'll often look back on obstacles in life and relate them to a cause/effect or a new, better path.

NeedleInTheHay · 02-13-2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontcare

I believe it. I believe that God is running the world, and that He's orchestrating things perfectly, He does everything for a reason. It's a part of belief in God.

If this is him orchestrating things perfectly, he's doing a really ****ty job.

Nae · 02-13-2009, 12:21 PM

No, probably not. The thought of everything happening for a reason is disconcerting tbh. What sort of planner would think up a plan which included a requirement for millions of humans to go blind due to a parasitic infection, for instance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jas498

Of course, things happen for a reason but the reason lies in the present and past, not the future. I suppose it all depends if you believe in something 'higher' call it what you will.

That's an interesting way to put it. In that case, yeah, I would probably say things happen for a reason. But I don't think that is the definition most people have in mind when they state "everything happens for a reason."

I like your sig line by the way.

LostInReverie · 02-13-2009, 01:29 PM

I honestly hope not, although it'd be nice to blame the universe for my ****ty life.

fauxhawk · 02-13-2009, 01:53 PM

Whenever I hear people say this I always think it's kind of egotistical. This would seem to put everyone at the center of the universe. To think this happened for me, when it would have happened regardless, I don't know. I've experienced some pretty uncanny coincidence, but I think this might have more to do with energy levels or shared frequencies or something...okay that sounds kind of crazy. Anyway I think it's up to the individual to make sense of their experiences and take from them as much as they can.

coldmorning · 02-13-2009, 01:55 PM

I don't really think this although there have been a few events in my life that made me really wonder. I suppose people who believe this might have had some event as well. I think this sort of view is called fatalism (fate).

screwjack · 02-13-2009, 02:27 PM

Nah it's like karma just a made-up concept people use to feel better about bad things that happen. We'd like to think someone is keeping score and that there is cosmic justice in the universe. I believe in cause and effect, things happen simply because they happen and we attach our own reason and meaning to them.

Try telling the people that went through the holocaust and lost children, have been tortured etc that "everything happens for a reason"

huh · 02-13-2009, 03:28 PM

From the last thread with this title ...

I don't think things happen for a specific reason or purpose. I think it is easy to attribute purpose to something where no purpose actually exists though. Humans are great at finding and making patterns for events and piecing them together to create a logical reason or purpose for the way things happen.

I also don't like to assign purpose to events because there are a lot of really horrific events for which no purpose seems possible (See Rowe's fawn example). Then when you start to cherry pick which events to assign purpose to and to avoid others the whole practice then seems odd to me.

Sunshine009 · 02-13-2009, 03:33 PM

Sure but its more broader than that. Its not always a good reason, sometimes a bad reason and sometimes its unknown reasons and you aren't going to know why. Not all things that happen are supposed to. We are supposed to fight against the tide and also pray. There are things that happened that can be prevented and intervened on. People aren't supposed to die early or be harmed because of other careless people.

Canadian Brotha · 02-13-2009, 04:12 PM

"Coincidence Is God's Way Of Remaining Anonymous"

Albert Einstein

shyvr6 · 02-13-2009, 11:20 PM

Everything happens for a reason because of the choices we make.

slylikeafox · 02-13-2009, 11:46 PM

I don't think everything happens for a reason(fate). I think you can learn from your life experiences though

Amocholes · 02-14-2009, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shyvr6

Everything happens for a reason because of the choices we make.

and we are affected by the choices that other people make. I believe more in coincidence than in than in karmic retribution, fate or destiny.

02-13-2009, 10:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Saint Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wales Gender: Male Age: 26 Posts: 21	Everything happens for a reason Im interested to know how many of you believe that everything happens for a reason. Theres quite a few people i know who seem to believe it but i just dont quite get why? What do you guys thinK?

02-13-2009, 10:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Fairyxo Status: Engaged Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Great Britain Gender: Female Age: 24 Posts: 794	I believe everything happens for a reason, I believe everyone has a plan laid out for them, that's why things always work out in the end. __________________ "You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun."

02-13-2009, 11:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
jas498 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Gender: Female Posts: 284	Of course, things happen for a reason but the reason lies in the present and past, not the future. I suppose it all depends if you believe in something 'higher' call it what you will. __________________ Yes I think I may have lost my ramen noodles. But if the world could've remained, within a frame. Like a painting on a wall. Well then I think we'd see the beauty. Stand staring in awe. At our still lives posed. -Bright Eyes [hr:37gjmwbv][/hr:37gjmwbv] "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." Carl Sagan

02-13-2009, 11:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
Canadian Brotha Status: Perpetually Dishevelled Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Over Yonder Gender: Male Age: 25 Posts: 5,720	I haven't any idea if things happen for a reason but I do think that meaning can be found in anything & everything. In other words significance/meaning is born of the individual & reasons for any given event is up for debate(In my opinion). __________________ ~ My Videos ~ My Music ~ ~ Leave It To Reality To Ruin My Day Dreams ~

02-13-2009, 04:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
Canadian Brotha Status: Perpetually Dishevelled Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Over Yonder Gender: Male Age: 25 Posts: 5,720	"Coincidence Is God's Way Of Remaining Anonymous" Albert Einstein __________________ ~ My Videos ~ My Music ~ ~ Leave It To Reality To Ruin My Day Dreams ~

02-13-2009, 10:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
dontcare Status: Original Flavor Join Date: Oct 2008 Gender: Female Posts: 2,360	I believe it. I believe that God is running the world, and that He's orchestrating things perfectly, He does everything for a reason. It's a part of belief in God.

02-13-2009, 10:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
Metal_Heart Status: SAS Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chester, UK Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 430	I don't believe it whatsoever, the concept confuses me.

02-13-2009, 11:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
VipFuj Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Gender: Male Age: 26 Posts: 1,164	i think people use that saying to bring closure to stuff they cant understand or when something simply doesnt have a reason. makes them feel more comfortable. it's a false sense of security.

02-13-2009, 11:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
laura024 Status: Pro-intellectualism Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ohio Gender: Female Age: 22 Posts: 7,778	I believe everything happens for a reason. I'll often look back on obstacles in life and relate them to a cause/effect or a new, better path.

02-13-2009, 01:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
LostInReverie Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,928	I honestly hope not, although it'd be nice to blame the universe for my ****ty life.

02-13-2009, 01:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
fauxhawk Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 157	Whenever I hear people say this I always think it's kind of egotistical. This would seem to put everyone at the center of the universe. To think this happened for me, when it would have happened regardless, I don't know. I've experienced some pretty uncanny coincidence, but I think this might have more to do with energy levels or shared frequencies or something...okay that sounds kind of crazy. Anyway I think it's up to the individual to make sense of their experiences and take from them as much as they can.

02-13-2009, 01:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
coldmorning Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 3,046	I don't really think this although there have been a few events in my life that made me really wonder. I suppose people who believe this might have had some event as well. I think this sort of view is called fatalism (fate).

02-13-2009, 02:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
screwjack Status: SAS Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pacific NW Gender: Male Posts: 985	Nah it's like karma just a made-up concept people use to feel better about bad things that happen. We'd like to think someone is keeping score and that there is cosmic justice in the universe. I believe in cause and effect, things happen simply because they happen and we attach our own reason and meaning to them. Try telling the people that went through the holocaust and lost children, have been tortured etc that "everything happens for a reason"

02-13-2009, 03:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
huh Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: WI Gender: Male Age: 27 Posts: 5,126	From the last thread with this title ... I don't think things happen for a specific reason or purpose. I think it is easy to attribute purpose to something where no purpose actually exists though. Humans are great at finding and making patterns for events and piecing them together to create a logical reason or purpose for the way things happen. I also don't like to assign purpose to events because there are a lot of really horrific events for which no purpose seems possible (See Rowe's fawn example). Then when you start to cherry pick which events to assign purpose to and to avoid others the whole practice then seems odd to me.

02-13-2009, 03:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sunshine009 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: California Gender: Female Posts: 3,837	Sure but its more broader than that. Its not always a good reason, sometimes a bad reason and sometimes its unknown reasons and you aren't going to know why. Not all things that happen are supposed to. We are supposed to fight against the tide and also pray. There are things that happened that can be prevented and intervened on. People aren't supposed to die early or be harmed because of other careless people.

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slylikeafox Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Michigan Gender: Male Age: 27 Posts: 1,777	I don't think everything happens for a reason(fate). I think you can learn from your life experiences though __________________ SAS Artist Trading Card Group "Aim at the sun, and you may not reach it; but your arrow will fly far higher than if aimed at an object on a level with yourself" - Joel Hawes